Top 3 powder picks for 45acp [Archive] - Glock Talk

PDA

View Full Version : Top 3 powder picks for 45acp


JDinNC
04-10-2010, 20:34
My Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading book has 11 powders for a 230 gr. FMJ. What do YOU think are the best 3 powders for it? I'm thinking about making a batch for each. It looks like the best powders would fill up the cases most so there's not a whole lot of air space in there? I AM a total newbie. I havent reloaded before. I just got a Hornady press. TYIA

Kasinefect
04-10-2010, 20:45
I've used 700-X for decades now with great results.

XDRoX
04-10-2010, 20:48
WST
Unique

deadday
04-10-2010, 20:49
1. 231
2. 231
3. 231

:wavey:

YamaLink
04-10-2010, 20:51
I only used Accurate #2. Clean, accurate, good recoil and very inexpensive. About $18 per pound locally. Everything else is about $22.

MoNsTeR
04-10-2010, 20:53
N310
N320
Clays

ssgrock3
04-10-2010, 20:56
clays, clays and even more clays.....I see someone uses Unique..it is my favorite for 9mm, and .38, haven't tried any .45's with it... what are you putting it under?

Blaster
04-10-2010, 21:27
Unique.

Under 230 gn. FMJ, 230 gn. LRN, 200 gn SWC & 200 gn. lead hollow base round nose.

D. Manley
04-10-2010, 22:21
My Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading book has 11 powders for a 230 gr. FMJ. What do YOU think are the best 3 powders for it? I'm thinking about making a batch for each. It looks like the best powders would fill up the cases most so there's not a whole lot of air space in there? I AM a total newbie. I havent reloaded before. I just got a Hornady press. TYIA

If you're new and looking for a powder to "get your feet wet" with in .45 ACP, I'd probably have to suggest W-231 / HP-38. Measures well, has a decent load range and is almost always produces accurate loads. The .45 has the benefit (or liability, depending on your outlook) of being very versatile in the powders it performs well with. Anything suggested in the thread so far is good as are many others. These are just that performed well for me.

General Use:

W-231 / HP-38
WST
N-340

Soft & Accurate Range Loads:

N-310
N-320
Clays

Zombie Steve
04-11-2010, 00:18
1. WSF (full balls)
2. Unique (full balls)
3. WST (target loads)

steve4102
04-11-2010, 00:27
WST Target
Silhouette FullHouse

JesseCJC
04-11-2010, 00:29
Wst
231
hs-6

dudel
04-11-2010, 05:06
Bullseye, 231, WST. No particular order, get what you can find.

Bullseye works great for light target loads. Light charges (keep an eye out), very economical.

kestrou
04-11-2010, 07:32
N310
N320
Clays

Soft & Accurate Range Loads:

N-310
N-320
Clays

Vote #3 for N310 & N320 :thumbsup:

kestrou

kshutt
04-11-2010, 08:30
Not in order, but..........

WST
W-231/HP-38
Unique

vafish
04-11-2010, 08:44
Surprised to see all the folks recommending WST.

I had never heard of WST until 6-9 months ago. Was looking for some powder to load light target loads in the .38 special and nothing much was available. Local shop had plenty of WST on hand. I looked it up and while there aren't a lot of handgun loads listed for it, there are lighter loads for the .38 Special, 9MM, .40 S+W and .45 ACP for it. It meters very nicely through my Lee Pro 1000's powder measure.

MrVvrroomm
04-11-2010, 08:49
Bullseye, 231, Power Pistol

No particular order.

tjpet
04-11-2010, 08:53
WST - target/standard

HS-6 - +P

Big Sam
04-11-2010, 09:08
I prefer AA2 and Power Pistol. However, as a new reloader I'd suggest you use a powder that has a lot of reloading data avaiable for it. Bullseye, Unique and 231 come to mind. The 45 acp does well with lots of powders. As you gain skill and understanding of the process, branch out and try other powders.

HAMMERHEAD
04-11-2010, 09:47
VV N310 (target loads)
Titegroup (forget load density, this one's a winner)
Clays

chris in va
04-11-2010, 09:59
Unique seems a bit snappy compared to the Bullseye loads I worked up. Either work fine for me with my LRN cast boolits.

rg1
04-11-2010, 11:48
UNIQUE
AA#5
Either one does fine. I prefer a powder that more than fills half of the case so there is no possibility of a double charge. Unique and AA#5 does that.

tmd11111
04-11-2010, 12:04
Unique
Bullseye
Titegroup

D. Manley
04-11-2010, 12:50
Surprised to see all the folks recommending WST.

I had never heard of WST until 6-9 months ago. Was looking for some powder to load light target loads in the .38 special and nothing much was available. Local shop had plenty of WST on hand. I looked it up and while there aren't a lot of handgun loads listed for it, there are lighter loads for the .38 Special, 9MM, .40 S+W and .45 ACP for it. It meters very nicely through my Lee Pro 1000's powder measure.

WST *works* OK in a number of calibers but IMHO, it *shines* in the .45. Plus, you get that nice black pepper smell at no extra charge. :supergrin:

G-30Jet
04-11-2010, 12:53
Winchester 231.

Snapper2
04-11-2010, 13:16
I've used 700-X for decades now with great results.

+1, I'm fairly new to reloading but I've used 700x for 45auto,10mm,and 400corbon with jacketed and plated bullets and have found it soft shooting and accurate. H-6 and 231 are my other two favorites.

fredj338
04-11-2010, 13:59
The best powder IMO, hands down, not in the Hornady manual, is WST. Why? Good case volumn, clean burning, soft recoil at any level & phenominal accuracy w/ all bullet wts. The great thing about the 45acp, just about any powder from Bullseye to Longshot will work, some just better than others. For newbs, I recommend not going any faster than WST, just too easy to get into trouble w/ their very steep pressure curves.http://www.reloadersnest.com/burnrates.asp FWIW, 700X meters too poorly for my taste.

GioaJack
04-11-2010, 18:36
Johnson & Johnson baby powder. Recoil is almost non-existent , no muzzle flash, very quiet and leaves your hands soft and silky.

Available at almost any Walmart.

Happy shooting.

Jack

Snapper2
04-11-2010, 18:41
Johnson & Johnson baby powder. Recoil is almost non-existent , no muzzle flash, very quiet and leaves your hands soft and silky.

Available at almost any Walmart.

Happy shooting.

Jack

:rofl: i"ve gots ta get rid of this abrasive powder then.

byf43
04-12-2010, 07:49
1. 231
2. 231
3. 231

:wavey:



I agree.:supergrin:

Patrick Graham
04-12-2010, 10:39
Unique, Power Pistol and W231.

grenadier
04-12-2010, 11:02
I use two powders for the .45 ACP:

Vihtavuori N320 - For general purpose, plinking loads. 5 grains propelling a 230 grain FMJ RN bullet gives a very, very accurate combination.

Alliant Power Pistol - For +P loads, if I want to duplicate the feel of +P 230 grain defensive ammo.

Seeing that I don't use +P defensive ammo in my .45 pistols (standard pressure Golden Sabers), I simply stick with the VV N320 load.

olefirefighter
04-15-2010, 19:42
Clays OR Universal Clays???

G36_Me
04-15-2010, 20:04
231 is a myth. It doesn't exist in the real world.

njl
04-15-2010, 22:23
Clays OR Universal Clays???

Anytime someone says Clays in connection with .45acp, you can safely assume plain old Clays. Universal can be used for .45, but only works well for relatively full power loads. At low pressure, it doesn't reliably burn completely.

mineralman55
04-16-2010, 04:23
Bullseye, Red Dot, W231.

fredj338
04-16-2010, 15:55
Anytime someone says Clays in connection with .45acp, you can safely assume plain old Clays. Universal can be used for .45, but only works well for relatively full power loads. At low pressure, it doesn't reliably burn completely.

Yeah, but with those two powders, one never wants to assume. FWIW, Clays is just a bit fast for anything but light target loads IMO. It does bulk up better than TG, still, WST beats either by a good country mile.:supergrin:

OzzyOsbourne
04-16-2010, 16:01
I use two powders for the .45 ACP:

Vihtavuori N320 - For general purpose, plinking loads. 5 grains propelling a 230 grain FMJ RN bullet gives a very, very accurate combination.

Alliant Power Pistol - For +P loads, if I want to duplicate the feel of +P 230 grain defensive ammo.

Seeing that I don't use +P defensive ammo in my .45 pistols (standard pressure Golden Sabers), I simply stick with the VV N320 load.


+1 on the N320. I love that stuff. I use it with Lead RN, and it's clean and super accurate.

I use N340 with 9mm with equally nice results.

GLShooter
04-16-2010, 16:05
Bullseye
Unique
231

Greg

PlasticGuy
04-16-2010, 16:08
231

TiteGroup

WSF (excellent with full power loads but filthy with lighter loads)

Jager1
04-16-2010, 17:29
Unique, Power Pistol and W231.

I'm with Patrick. :supergrin: (He is switching Unique for WST).

WST - Target Shooting and Moderate Loads

231 - Moderate Loads

Power Pistol - Maximum Loads

WST is the cleanest burning, which is why I recommend it for bulk loading. If you are shooting a lot (practice/range session) it makes for less cleanup. Yes, it does have its own 'smell' which is not unpleasant.

231 - Can be a bit dirty, but no more so than other powders. It is fairly quick burning, so higher velocity loads tend to push its limits. It is simply a good all around powder.

Power Pistol - The powder of the gods. I took Power Pistol up when it first came out and reloading data for it had barely hit the presses. Only the Speer manual and the manufacturer had data available at the time. Worked up loads from that data and simply love the performance. Slower burning than WST or 231, so it does wonders for velocity when you're pushing 230 grain projectiles.

ede
04-16-2010, 17:46
WST
Titegroup
Power Pistol

Max1775
04-17-2010, 17:24
I just picked up a pound of WST to try due to all the recommendations on here. I'm new to reloading as well. Anyone have a favorite load for Hornady 230gr FMJ for target shooting?

njl
04-17-2010, 17:48
Yeah, but with those two powders, one never wants to assume. FWIW, Clays is just a bit fast for anything but light target loads IMO. It does bulk up better than TG, still, WST beats either by a good country mile.:supergrin:

I guess I should have said the opposite. Clays appears to be way more popular and suitable for .45acp than Universal...but if you see a load and are not sure which its for. using Universal is safer. i.e. for 230gr FMJ, Hodgdon lists 4.0gr Clays as the max. 4.0gr Universal might get the bullet through the barrel.

I did some shooting today and used up the last of my Universal Clays .45 reloads. Compared to 4gr Clays, the recoil was noticeably worse and the velocity lower. Universal sucks for .45acp light target loads. The Clays cartridges were kind of smoky...and I wonder if changing from FMJ to JHP will help with that.

fredj338
04-17-2010, 18:25
I guess I should have said the opposite. Clays appears to be way more popular and suitable for .45acp than Universal...but if you see a load and are not sure which its for. using Universal is safer. i.e. for 230gr FMJ, Hodgdon lists 4.0gr Clays as the max. 4.0gr Universal might get the bullet through the barrel.

I did some shooting today and used up the last of my Universal Clays .45 reloads. Compared to 4gr Clays, the recoil was noticeably worse and the velocity lower. Universal sucks for .45acp light target loads. The Clays cartridges were kind of smoky...and I wonder if changing from FMJ to JHP will help with that.

Universal is much like Unique or WSF, it runs best at midrange & up. None of the medium burners are good for clean target vel (sub 800fps) loads. Clays just seems to get wierd near the top end. Nice & bulky, but I will never buy another # (bought one to try). Not much beats WST for light loads to full power loads in the 45acp.
I just picked up a pound of WST to try due to all the recommendations on here. I'm new to reloading as well. Anyone have a favorite load for Hornady 230gr FMJ for target shooting?
Using 4.6gr under a 230grFMJ (win) @ 1.240", runs right @ 800fps in a 5"XD/1911.

kshutt
04-17-2010, 18:37
Universal is much like Unique or WSF, it runs best at midrange & up. None of the medium burners are good for clean target vel (sub 800fps) loads. Clays just seems to get wierd near the top end. Nice & bulky, but I will never buy another # (bought one to try). Not much beats WST for light loads to full power loads in the 45acp.
I
Using 4.6gr under a 230grFMJ (win) @ 1.240", runs right @ 800fps in a 5"XD/1911.

I just finished shooting a bit ago, and I liked the WST 4.6gr. 230 FMJ load thru my G30. I was in the zone today! :pepper::dancingbanana::banana::broccoli:

fredj338
04-17-2010, 18:40
I just finished shooting a bit ago, and I liked the WST 4.6gr. 230 FMJ load thru my G30. I was in the zone today! :pepper::dancingbanana::banana::broccoli:
I'll tell ya, 4.9gr under a 200grLSWC in my semituned 1911 is almost cheating when I shoot. Damn gun practically shoots itself out to 25yds.:wavey:

kubura
04-17-2010, 18:49
Just curious why no one mentioned Solo 1000?

Max1775
04-17-2010, 19:23
Using 4.6gr under a 230grFMJ (win) @ 1.240", runs right @ 800fps in a 5"XD/1911.

Thanks, Im gonna give that a try! :wavey:

Remington700VS
04-17-2010, 19:31
Clays

kshutt
04-17-2010, 19:53
I'll tell ya, 4.9gr under a 200grLSWC in my semituned 1911 is almost cheating when I shoot. Damn gun practically shoots itself out to 25yds.:wavey:

I'm gonna try to remember that one, Fred. I haven't loaded any WST stuff yet for my Wilson 1911. The 200 LSWC is my favorite bullet, but I've always just loaded either 231 or HP-38. What is the velocity out of your 1911 with that load you mentioned?

glockerbob
04-17-2010, 20:12
Bullseye for lead swc bluedot for jacketed

glockerbob
04-17-2010, 20:14
4.6 bullseye 200 gr lead is good

strykr45
04-17-2010, 21:44
Can't go wrong with 231

fredj338
04-18-2010, 02:06
I'm gonna try to remember that one, Fred. I haven't loaded any WST stuff yet for my Wilson 1911. The 200 LSWC is my favorite bullet, but I've always just loaded either 231 or HP-38. What is the velocity out of your 1911 with that load you mentioned?
It runs about 860fps in a 5" 1911/XD loaded to 1.255"OAL.

kshutt
04-18-2010, 05:24
It runs about 860fps in a 5" 1911/XD loaded to 1.255"OAL.

Thanks, Fred. I also noticed your OAL @ 1.255. Wilson's documentation recommends 1.250, but my pistol didn't care for that length. I run 'em about 1.255-1.257, and I'm good to go. Thanks again.:wavey:

fredj338
04-18-2010, 11:08
Thanks, Fred. I also noticed your OAL @ 1.255. Wilson's documentation recommends 1.250, but my pistol didn't care for that length. I run 'em about 1.255-1.257, and I'm good to go. Thanks again.:wavey:
The OAL will depend a lot on the exact bullet design. A diff of 0.005" either way doesn't matter as long as it feeds for you.:wavey:

tango44
04-18-2010, 11:09
231 is all you need!

just for fun
04-18-2010, 14:19
I only used Accurate #2. Clean, accurate, good recoil and very inexpensive. About $18 per pound locally. Everything else is about $22. 5.2 grains of AA-2, using Precision 230 bullets, federal primers and a OAL of 1.260, resulted in 860 FPS and a SD of 3!!! Hard to find fault with this load.

marcclarke
04-27-2010, 00:04
Unique
Bullseye
Titegroup
+1. That is my list of favorites, in order. :yawn:

Fritz1
04-27-2010, 12:09
700x for lead target loads
800x for full power jacketed loads
power pistol for +p loads

proraptor
04-27-2010, 15:52
I like 231 and bullseye

Bob2223
04-27-2010, 20:28
I'm gonna try to remember that one, Fred. I haven't loaded any WST stuff yet for my Wilson 1911. The 200 LSWC is my favorite bullet, but I've always just loaded either 231 or HP-38. What is the velocity out of your 1911 with that load you mentioned?

From another Wilson owner WST and a 200 gn LSWC is a great combo!
I've always used 231 & N320 but took Fred's advice a while back and tried the WST, it is a great powder for the 45 !




Bob

FM12
04-28-2010, 16:05
1. Bullseye
2. AA 5
3. 231