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Slug71
04-13-2010, 22:28
So i've been considering a rimfire rifle for some time now but unsure on the round i should go with. Im pretty set on one of Marlin's bolt action rifles with a magazine and was set on the 980s in .22-lr until i started thinking about the .22-wmr and .17-hmr loads.

The biggest reason for this rifle would be cheap shooting.

I only started considering the wmr and hmr loads because the .22-lr seemed to small for a rifle round. But now price seems to go up considerably.
I havent really looked into ammo for the wmr or hmr much at all though.
I know the hmr has got very popular over the years too.

So for the people that know more about the rounds and the prices, fill me in?

Thanks in advance. :wavey:

These are my considerations:
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/BoltAction22/980S.asp
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/22WinMagnum/925RM.asp
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/17HMRMagnum/917s.asp

Bill Keith
04-13-2010, 22:33
You're not going to find any ammo as inexpensive as 22LR. You can blow through 200 rounds of 22LR without putting a crimp in your wallet. The 22LR is a good pest and small game round out to about 60 yards, and it is hard to beat for really learning how to shoot well. Lots of guys start with bigger calibers, and that's OK, but most people who shoot A LOT still shoot a bunch of 22LR - it's fun and it's cheap. A good inexpensive 22LR ammo is the CCI Blazer 40 grain ammo. It is pretty accurate in all my 22's, and I usually have a bunch of it when I can get it on sale. Before ammo prices got so crazy, it wasn't unusual to find a brick of 500 rounds for about $10.

CajunBass
04-14-2010, 01:57
Even now with high ammo prices everywhere, the 22 LR is still about as cheap as you're going to find. Bulk pack ammo is "good enough" for about 95% of shooting (that is a simple, wild guess, don't ask for proof).

Personally I see things like the 22 magnun and the 17's as very specialized tools. If you're only going to have one, get the 22 LR.

kirgi08
04-14-2010, 03:25
Don't buy Remmington Bulk...................

I prefer PMC Moderators in my 10/22.CCI or some others work as well.'08.

user
04-14-2010, 04:57
Federal bulk packs from WalMart are pretty good. But for actual small game shooting, I'd get Remington Yellow Jacket.

Slug71
04-14-2010, 08:00
Thanks for the input guys.
Is .22LR rounds generally around half the price of the others?

wjv
04-14-2010, 10:28
Cheap .22 LR ammo will run $2-$3 for 50 round (sometimes less)

Excellent quality ammo (such as CCI Velocitor) is available for ~$6 for 50 rounds on line.

.22 mag ammo will run ~$9-$12 for a box of 50 - I like the Winchester silver box - WNX22MH - $11.30 on-line, but in the past I've found it cheaper at Walmart ($10+). CCI also now makes a good 40 grain .22 mag round.

If your just looking at punching holes in paper, the .22 LR is as good as any, and you can push it up a bit with the Velocitor (or similar) rounds if you need to use it for small game or self defense. (No I'm not recommending .22LR for self defense - but if its the only gun you got, then use the best ammo available).

You don't mention if you own any other guns, or what you are thinking of using the .22 for. target/hunting/home defense/SHTF. . . .

If you can provide this info, people can clarify their responses.

Slug71
04-14-2010, 11:03
Cheap .22 LR ammo will run $2-$3 for 50 round (sometimes less)

Excellent quality ammo (such as CCI Velocitor) is available for ~$6 for 50 rounds on line.

.22 mag ammo will run ~$9-$12 for a box of 50 - I like the Winchester silver box - WNX22MH - $11.30 on-line, but in the past I've found it cheaper at Walmart ($10+). CCI also now makes a good 40 grain .22 mag round.

If your just looking at punching holes in paper, the .22 LR is as good as any, and you can push it up a bit with the Velocitor (or similar) rounds if you need to use it for small game or self defense. (No I'm not recommending .22LR for self defense - but if its the only gun you got, then use the best ammo available).

You don't mention if you own any other guns, or what you are thinking of using the .22 for. target/hunting/home defense/SHTF. . . .

If you can provide this info, people can clarify their responses.

Hi thanks for the info.

I currently own a G19-RTF2 Glock(9mm).
.22 will be for target. Maybe for a little hunting(wife will probably shoot me if she finds out though).

Think i will be going with the Marlin 980S.

vafish
04-14-2010, 18:43
The biggest reason for this rifle would be cheap shooting.



Cheap Shooting = .22 LR

.22LR is about $2 for a box of 50 or less for the cheap plinking ammo and the top of the line target stuff is about $18 for a box of 50.

.22 Magnum is $7.56 to $16.97 a box of 50 at Natchez

.17 HMR is $10.99 to $15.99 a box of 50 at Natchez

wjv
04-14-2010, 18:44
Marlins are good.

Get one of each!!!!!!

My Marlin 983S (.22 mag)

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/bcvojak/RVNet/Marlin983b.jpg

My Marlin 881 (.22 LR)

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/bcvojak/RVNet/Marlin881b.jpg

Slug71
04-14-2010, 19:47
Marlins are good.

Get one of each!!!!!!

My Marlin 983S (.22 mag)

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/bcvojak/RVNet/Marlin983b.jpg

My Marlin 881 (.22 LR)

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/bcvojak/RVNet/Marlin881b.jpg

Nice rifles!

Yeh i think im gonna go with the 980S. Just priced it at Wally World and its $255.
Will add a silver Nikon 4x32 scope for it later.

And then maybe towards the end of the year i'll pick up a .22 mag or .17 hmr.

Thanks for all the input guys. :wavey:

table
04-19-2010, 23:37
i would suggest the HMR. i have a Marlin 60 in 22lr and its semi so great for targets that may run or just move. if i were to get a bolt action i'd go HMR over WMR. i'm pretty much into precision shooting. i'm thinking of getting a HMR myself but would go with a heavy barreled Savage. the HMR leaves at about 2550 fps. has a longer range and better killing power with a 17gr pill as opposed to my 40 gr for my 22lr. the wind will have more effect on the lighter HMR though. i would put the 22lr in a class of its own and the WMR and HMR in another. there is a good video on YouTube comparing the HMR and the WMR. look for it. heres a video of the comparison of the 22 lr and the HMR to help you decide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc37CuVgR2g&feature=related

and heres a pic of my 60 with a Boyds' thumbhole stock i finished.

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv211/mxuanl/Armory/60Boyds.jpg

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv211/mxuanl/Armory/60Boyds-1.jpg

vafish
04-20-2010, 06:46
i would suggest the HMR. i have a Marlin 60 in 22lr and its semi so great for targets that may run or just move. if i were to get a bolt action i'd go HMR over WMR. i'm pretty much into precision shooting. i'm thinking of getting a HMR myself but would go with a heavy barreled Savage. the HMR leaves at about 2550 fps. has a longer range and better killing power with a 17gr pill as opposed to my 40 gr for my 22lr. the wind will have more effect on the lighter HMR though. i would put the 22lr in a class of its own and the WMR and HMR in another. there is a good video on YouTube comparing the HMR and the WMR. look for it. heres a video of the comparison of the 22 lr and the HMR to help you decide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc37CuVgR2g&feature=related

and heres a pic of my 60 with a Boyds' thumbhole stock i finished.

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv211/mxuanl/Armory/60Boyds.jpg

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv211/mxuanl/Armory/60Boyds-1.jpg

That Boyds Stock looks pretty. I may have to order one of them. I cut down the stock on my old Marlin 60 when my kids were little. They've grown big enough now that they don't need the shorter stock. I saved the pieces so I could glue them back on, but I really like the look of that Boyds stock. didn't know they inlet them for the Marlin 60's.

table
04-21-2010, 13:44
Boyds' makes a limited run of these types of stock in different materials every so often. this time they had the walnut, laminate, nutmeg and one other i believe. you have to order one as soon as they're available cause they usually sell out in the popular ones in a day and the rest in two days. i heard about the release on rimfirecentral.com under Marlin / Model 60 forum.

gnepig
05-03-2010, 11:12
Wow Table, I like that stock! I didn't know that anyboby made anything for the Marlin m 60s.






Edit: And after checkin the Boyds site their out...

PigButtons
05-03-2010, 17:27
I currently own a G19-RTF2 Glock(9mm).
.22 will be for target. Maybe for a little hunting(wife will probably shoot me if she finds out though).


Definitely 22LR if your wife is going to shoot you!:rofl:
It'll hurt a lot less.

kirgi08
05-03-2010, 23:51
Don't bet on that,shot placement is key.'08. :whistling:

vafish
05-04-2010, 06:55
Don't bet on that,shot placement is key.'08. :whistling:


If she places the shot right he won't feel a thing. If she places it somewhere else (which would be right from her perspective) it will hurt a lot.

table
05-04-2010, 23:20
Wow Table, I like that stock! I didn't know that anyboby made anything for the Marlin m 60s.


Edit: And after checkin the Boyds site their out...

Boyds makes a limited run of the stock. i heard about it on rimfirecentral.com in the Model 60 forum. when they become available someone always does a post to let people know, thats how i found out. rimfire technologies also has stuff for the 60 http://www.rimfiretechnologies.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=50