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bravorigging
04-22-2010, 21:30
I am looking for info on reloading 45 colt using hornady 230gr hp/xtp with titegroup powder?found info for cast bullets but not these,new to reloading so any help would be usefull.

GioaJack
04-22-2010, 21:43
The experts will be along in a little while but in the meantime I'll hazard a guess and say that Titegroup probably isn't your best choice for .45 Colt.

It's really too fast of a powder for anything other than mild loads in that caliber and bullet weight. You might find a powder with a burn rate of Unique or 2400 more acceptable... certainly would be less problematic where pressures are concerned.

Be patient, those much more knowledgeable will chime in with better advice.

Jack

4Baldy
04-22-2010, 21:53
No expert that's for sure. But for a hp bullet I would use Win-231 powder.
Go over to their site and look over their loads.
http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

fredj338
04-23-2010, 11:24
I am looking for info on reloading 45 colt using hornady 230gr hp/xtp with titegroup powder?found info for cast bullets but not these,new to reloading so any help would be usefull.
You can use the cast bullet data for jacketed. IMO, like Jack, TG is not the best choice for jacketed bullet loads in the big 45colt case. One reason you'll find little printed data for it. I like medium burners for that, running a 230grJHP about 1000fps in the 45Colt. If you want to use TG, stick to light lead bullet loads.

GLShooter
04-23-2010, 11:50
I am looking for info on reloading 45 colt using hornady 230gr hp/xtp with titegroup powder?found info for cast bullets but not these,new to reloading so any help would be usefull.

Here is the stuff on the 230 lead from Hodgdon:

230 GR. CAST LRNFP Hodgdon Titegroup .452" 1.580" 5.8 857 10,300 CUP 6.5 934 13,000 CUP

You could use that data and back off a tad as jacketed will cause a higher pressure than lead with most powder charges.

I personally feel that if you want to shoot that LC with the 230 JHP's you need to move up to something like 2400 or a good dose of Unique. velocity is your friend with this bullet choice. If it is just plinking save the jacket and shoot lead. If you want to really use that XTP you will have to crank 'em up.

Greg

fredj338
04-23-2010, 12:04
Here is the stuff on the 230 lead from Hodgdon:

230 GR. CAST LRNFP Hodgdon Titegroup .452" 1.580" 5.8 857 10,300 CUP 6.5 934 13,000 CUP

You could use that data and back off a tad as jacketed will cause a higher pressure than lead with most powder charges.
I personally feel that if you want to shoot that LC with the 230 JHP's you need to move up to something like 2400 or a good dose of Unique. velocity is your friend with this bullet choice. If it is just plinking save the jacket and shoot lead. If you want to really use that XTP you will have to crank 'em up.

Greg
Reloaders keep saying that, but I am not buying it.
250 GR. CAST LRNFP Hodgdon Titegroup .452" 1.600" 5.0 716 7600 CUP 6.2 881 13,000 CUP
250 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Titegroup .452" 1.595" 5.5 739 9700 CUP 6.3 830 12,700 CUP
I maintain that lead bullets offer slightly higher pressure than a jacketed bullet as they are always slightly oversize & seal the bore more completely than a jacketed. Although I think it does vary w/ the caliber/bore size.

GLShooter
04-23-2010, 12:14
Reloaders keep saying that, but I am not buying it.
250 GR. CAST LRNFP Hodgdon Titegroup .452" 1.600" 5.0 716 7600 CUP 6.2 881 13,000 CUP
250 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Titegroup .452" 1.595" 5.5 739 9700 CUP 6.3 830 12,700 CUP
I maintain that lead bullets offer slightly higher pressure than a jacketed bullet as they are always slightly oversize & seal the bore more completely than a jacketed. Although I think it does vary w/ the caliber/bore size.

300 CUP is not that great a difference. Bearing surface and crimp on the bullet can make a difference. Amount of space used up by the bullet base can vary. Another thing that comes into play is lead bullet hardness. Obturation can and does make a difference in the pressures. Also if the same ammo is shot on different days there can be a SLIGHT variation in pressures obtained. (The last is based on some studies I read several years ago)

Greg

Gunnut 45/454
04-23-2010, 16:44
Ah are those 230 gr .451" or .452"? If they are .451" they are for 45 ACP not 45LC! They'll shoot out of a 45 LC they just will not accurate as they will not engage the rifling enough! I cast 230gr and and size .452" to shoot out of eithere 45 ACP or 45 LC!:supergrin: