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finz50
06-02-2010, 18:06
Rock Island GI MilSpec 1911A1, (model 54121) for $419.55 OTD

or

Springfield Armory GI (model PW9108LP) for $543.00 OTD

or

Springfield Armory Mil-Spec (model PB9108LP) for $600.00 OTD

I sold a couple guns and figured I'd get a pretty basic 1911 that's I'd hold onto for a while until I knew it in and out, and had an idea (after putting a few rounds downrange) about what nicer model I might like later down the line....maybe a year or two out.

Like the price tag on the RIA, but not particularly thrilled about the small GI sights. Kinda like the SA Mil-Spec, but not really sure if I want to spend the extra money. I'm also thinking if/when I sell it to purchase my "nice" 1911 in the future, I probably won't lose as much on the resale value of the Springer. The SA GI kinda seems like the best middle ground, but not convinced.

Forgive my ignorance, but I've never been a big 1911 guy. All these IDPA guys I shoot with are getting me itching for a 1911 though, so I figure what the heck.

Any inputs are appreciated.

Finz50

p.s. was going to make it a poll,but couldn't figure it out...

bac1023
06-02-2010, 18:08
Since its your first, you may just want to go with an RIA to be sure you like the platform.

RIAs are solid 1911s.

Jim S.
06-02-2010, 18:49
If you don't have a problem spending the extra cash I would go with the Springfield Mil-Spec. Good gun as it is and an excellent base gun for future custom work.

Quack
06-02-2010, 19:03
Ed Brown, that way you can't blame the gun. :supergrin:

Of the 3 the RIA is a good gateway drug, err 1911

BlayGlock
06-02-2010, 19:23
If I were to get an RIA I would get the Tactical for the better sights. The G.I. sights can be hard to see in low light.

den888
06-02-2010, 22:38
Mil spec for me...

MD357
06-02-2010, 23:53
The non-GI "Mil-spec" gets my vote. The little extras the Mil-spec has over a GI is worth it IMHO and if you are going to shoot IDPA then don't mess with an RIA. You are likely to upgrade or have work done and the Springer is a better platform.

CMG
06-03-2010, 00:04
I'd go with the Mil-Spec as well.

brisk21
06-03-2010, 06:57
I vote for the mil-spec for sure. I have one and it is great. my groups with it are just one hole about the size of 3 .45 cal rounds. I just like Springfield.

jlpskydive
06-03-2010, 07:32
I have a RIA Tactical that I'm thinking about selling. Factory Duracoat, Fusion FO front sight and a set of magwell grips on it. I just bought a Springer Loaded so I'm thinking about parting with this one for spending cash to customize the Springer. PM me if you are interested. Even with shipping it will come out less than the Springer GI you are looking at.

majette
06-03-2010, 08:50
with apologies to Tolkien...

One 1911 to rule them all, One 1911 to find them,
One 1911 to bring them all and with its awesomeness
bind them; the MC Operator!

http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/images/SPhg_story10A_544.jpg

Magus
06-03-2010, 16:20
Honestly, any of the 3 you've selected would be a good starting point for the 1911 platform. You'll be fine with any of those.

Of the 3 though, I'd go for the Springfield Mil-Spec.

jrs93accord
06-03-2010, 16:58
I am a big proponent of the RIA. It is a fantastic 1911 at an entry level price. That said, with less than $200 between the RIA and the Springfield Mil-Spec, I would get the Mil-Spec. If it was between the RIA and the standard Springfield GI, the RIA would be my choice hands-down.

bac1023
06-03-2010, 17:36
with apologies to Tolkien...

One 1911 to rule them all, One 1911 to find them,
One 1911 to bring them all and with its awesomeness
bind them; the MC Operator!

http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/images/SPhg_story10A_544.jpg





:dunno:

trickyvic
06-03-2010, 18:04
Honestly, any of the 3 you've selected would be a good starting point for the 1911 platform. You'll be fine with any of those.

Of the 3 though, I'd go for the Springfield Mil-Spec.

:agree:

SouthpawShootr
06-03-2010, 18:26
I would do Rock Island. But not the GI, I'd pay a little more and get the Tactical. It's got good sights and other goodies people frequently add. Mine wasn't my first (my first 3 1911s were Colts and I was happy with them), but I like mine alot even though I have a couple of 1911s that cost more than 3 times the Rock Island.

glock360
06-04-2010, 17:55
Norinco, manufactured of some of the finest steels available.
All milspec except for the grip bushings and screws.

And not a single MIM part. :thumbsup:

jrs93accord
06-04-2010, 18:05
Norinco, manufactured of some of the finest steels available.
All milspec except for the grip bushings and screws.

And not a single MIM part. :thumbsup:


Norinco 1911A1s are fantastic guns. These are my two.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/001-8.jpg

finz50
06-04-2010, 18:44
What is MIM? A few more questions for ya.....do you guys recommend buying a "beginner 1911" that I can learn on and sell a year or so down the line and replace with a nicer one (right now I'm liking the Springfield TRP model) maybe in a year.....or just spend the money on one that I can upgrade and just start building it from the ground up? The TRP sounds easier, and like less work when it's all said and done. Thoughts??

Hokie1911
06-04-2010, 18:49
What is MIM? A few more questions for ya.....do you guys recommend buying a "beginner 1911" that I can learn on and sell a year or so down the line and replace with a nicer one (right now I'm liking the Springfield TRP model) maybe in a year.....or just spend the money on one that I can upgrade and just start building it from the ground up? The TRP sounds easier, and like less work when it's all said and done. Thoughts??

Metal injection molding (MIM) is a metalworking process which is used to create small, complex metal parts in high volumes for use in a variety of industries and applications. The MIM process is typically described as the combination of powder metallurgy and the plastic injection molding process. The process was invented in 1973 by Karl Zueger, but was not adopted for manufacturing use until the 1980s. Competing processes include pressed powder sintering, investment casting, turning and machining.

The process involves combining fine metal powders with plastic binders which allow the metal to be injected into a mold using equipment similar to standard plastic injection molding machines. After the part is molded and before the binders are removed, the part is referred to as a 'green part'. The next step is to remove the binders with solvents and thermal processes. The resultant metal part is sintered at temperatures great enough to bind the particles but not melt the metal.

glock360
06-04-2010, 20:16
Norinco 1911A1s are fantastic guns. These are my two.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/001-8.jpg


Nice looking grips on those.

Cobra64
06-06-2010, 22:41
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cartoons/EYE-SCREAM.png
http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/images/SPhg_story10A_544.jpg







1911s without all that crap all over 'em......

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/1911-A1%20Project/USFA1911.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/1911-A1%20Project/RemingtonRand1911A12.jpg



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bac1023
06-07-2010, 03:10
Cobra, that bottom pic looks vaguely familiar. ;)

Cobra64
06-07-2010, 03:23
Cobra, that bottom pic looks vaguely familiar. ;)

Ya think? I've got about 50 of your shots saved.

Even some on the pink carpet! :tongueout: