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Chonny
06-06-2010, 08:52
The Edmond police had a home hostage situation and an officer shot a guy 7 times with a 9mm. The bad guy killed somebody before he died.

They are going to .45 cal pistols.

Jim Watson
06-06-2010, 09:00
Thread on another board: Man shot four times with .45, treated and released.

katana8869
06-06-2010, 09:41
Hey look! A seagull.....

devldogs
06-06-2010, 10:00
...They are going to .45 cal pistols.

... when they should be going to the range.

gunsnhoses
06-06-2010, 10:36
I shot a paper target 15 times with a 9mm and it was still standing! I'm switching to .454 casull.

mastrbloata
06-06-2010, 10:49
... when they should be going to the range.

Isn't that the truth.....

fredj338
06-06-2010, 12:51
There are manys stories of BG being shot multiple times w/ all calibers & live. There is being shot & there is being shot. I know of a guy stabbed 42 times & survived that as well. Liek buying a home; location, location, location.

Snapper2
06-06-2010, 12:57
Thread on another board: Man shot four times with .45, treated and released.

It would have taken One, shot with the 10mm.:whistling:

TSAX
06-06-2010, 14:30
Shot placement again, check this out, we discussed it in our qualification classes in the military

http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi-hwfe.pdf

Anonimo
06-06-2010, 14:58
The Edmond police had a home hostage situation and an officer shot a guy 7 times with a 9mm. The bad guy killed somebody before he died.

They are going to .45 cal pistols.


Was it in a Post Office?

cowboy1964
06-06-2010, 15:15
Anyone have a link to the story?

There was also a thread recently about someone being shot 17 times with a .40 and kept on going for awhile.

HAMMERHEAD
06-06-2010, 15:37
Hey look! A seagull.....
Now that's funny.

glocksterr
06-06-2010, 15:38
they emptied the whole clip into him. he must have been on PCP or sumpin'...

bogey3737
06-06-2010, 15:55
they emptied the whole clip into him. he must have been on PCP or sumpin'...

My God...do you have any idea what you just started?

j-glock22
06-06-2010, 16:01
Aw Geez, not another one of these!

FatBoy
06-06-2010, 16:11
I guess 9mms are better than .40s, as it took over 20 hits (17 COM) to stop this guy.
http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-articles/articles/lom/0412/the_peter_soulis_incident.html;jsessionid=10BDC02F0CF4D0B083E43EA06A47B949

The Aftermath
Remarkably, Palmer had taken 22 hits from Soulis' .40-caliber Glock, 17 of which had hit center mass. Despite the fact that the weapon had been loaded with Ranger SXTs—considered by many to be one of the best man-stoppers available—Palmer lived for more than four minutes after the last shot was fired. His autopsy revealed nothing more than a small amount of alcohol in his bloodstream. Although Soulis could not have known it, Palmer was wanted for murder in a neighboring state.

I guess I'll sell my .40s and buy more 9mms.

FB

HeavyRevolver
06-06-2010, 16:32
There are these freak situations where people take unreal amounts of hits, and then there are many more where 1 or 2 shots does the trick. Why do people still insist on caliber?

LE agencies like that just want something else to blame just like the FBI did for Miami.

HAMMERHEAD
06-06-2010, 16:51
I think 9mm is a minimum, and adequate penetration is mandatory. After that, shot placement is the only thing you can control. The perp's ability to withstand gunshots is beyond your control.

Chonny
06-07-2010, 01:15
Was it in a Post Office?

Not this time.

samuse
06-07-2010, 05:45
I guess I'll sell my .40s and buy more 9mms.

FB


Sounds like a plan. I'm gonna trade my G-23 for G-17RTF. Let's go!!

MAGICMANIA
06-07-2010, 08:04
I think 9mm is a minimum, and adequate penetration is mandatory. After that, shot placement is the only thing you can control. The perp's ability to withstand gunshots is beyond your control.

I agree with this 100%

freakshow10mm
06-07-2010, 09:18
So, class, did anyone learn a lesson here?

Handguns are terrible, inconsistent stoppers. They are carried out of convenience and used out of necessity. If you want to stop someone get a rifle and even THAT's not a guarantee but it's better than any handgun.

glock20c10mm
06-07-2010, 09:36
So, class, did anyone learn a lesson here?

Handguns are terrible, inconsistent stoppers. They are carried out of convenience and used out of necessity. If you want to stop someone get a rifle and even THAT's not a guarantee but it's better than any handgun.
What caliber?

HAMMERHEAD
06-07-2010, 15:48
What caliber?
Noooooooooooo!

Berto
06-07-2010, 18:06
I'd say .223, since it's better than .308.










:whistling:

freakshow10mm
06-07-2010, 18:13
What caliber?
Sorry, Craig. I'm not taking your bait.:wavey:

glock20c10mm
06-09-2010, 12:42
Sorry, Craig. I'm not taking your bait.:wavey:
Awe, c'mon.............we could'a had so much fun. :supergrin:


Have a Great Day,
Craig

Keoking
06-09-2010, 12:49
So, class, did anyone learn a lesson here?

Handguns are terrible, inconsistent stoppers. They are carried out of convenience and used out of necessity. If you want to stop someone get a rifle and even THAT's not a guarantee but it's better than any handgun.

That's why I carry an axe. Tough guys will act hard when you stick a pistol in their face, but NO ONE wants to take an axe in the mouth.

agtman
06-09-2010, 18:21
The Edmond police had a home hostage situation and an officer shot a guy 7 times with a 9mm. The bad guy killed somebody before he died.
They are going to .45 cal pistols.

Yep, these incidents always remind me of the late '80s, ... back when I had more hair and none of it was gray. ;)

Back in those days we always heard tales of how one could recognize a cop who'd survived a recent gunfight with his issue 9-minimeter pistola. :dunno:

Yep, he was the cop you now saw carrying some form of .45acp on his hip. :wow:

Some of us even upgraded to the 10mm AUTO ...

... you know, just to be sure. :cool:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/agtman/motivatorb1e9472e259df71cdf008b9e32.jpg

den888
06-09-2010, 20:32
+1, agreed.


I think 9mm is a minimum, and adequate penetration is mandatory. After that, shot placement is the only thing you can control. The perp's ability to withstand gunshots is beyond your control.

unit1069
06-09-2010, 20:45
When I read, "Handguns are terrible manstoppers" I have to laugh. It always reminds me of the fellow who read an article where X caliber failed to kill the perp with one shot and he so totally fell apart with insecurity he decided to start a thread on Glock Talk about his decision to sell his X caliber pistol and move on to something more powerful. This kind of insecurity I'm sure takes a good chunk of money from the victim of said insecurity.

If anyone is shot four times with a decent 9mm pistol that person is extremely lucky to be alive. If someone wants to count on a one-shot stop then by all means buy the most powerful handgun you can effectively handle, but even then don't expect that the first shot will produce DRT results. Sheesh, you might even spend a small fortune on a .50 caliber and $2/round ammo and blast the entire magazine into a bad guy only to see him survive. Such are the quirks of fate.

And handguns do a pretty good job of stopping fights. Maybe not as fast as a good rifle, but effective nonetheless. Who wants to cart a slung rifle to the 7-11 for a fountain drink when the chances are practically nil that the trip will result in a deadly encounter? Not me.

gatorboy
06-09-2010, 20:45
That's why I carry an axe. Tough guys will act hard when you stick a pistol in their face, but NO ONE wants to take an axe in the mouth.

This I agree with.

ContractSoldier
06-09-2010, 23:59
The Edmond police had a home hostage situation and an officer shot a guy 7 times with a 9mm. The bad guy killed somebody before he died.

They are going to .45 cal pistols.

Theres people who have been shot with shotguns and have stood back up, caliber means nothing, It's where you hit and luck.

bigez
06-10-2010, 00:10
Should have used .50BMG