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Don Glock
06-06-2010, 15:51
it's price was $619, and they just got it in yesterday.

i didn't shoot it, but this was what i noticed.


1. the fit was much less than impressive.

2. the beavertail safety wasn't blended to the frame properly, and also had VERY sharp edges at the tang. it was VERY uncomfortable simply to hold it, i can only imagine what shooting it would be like. even when fully depressed, it protrudes very far from the back of the grip frame.

3. the slide/frame fit was not bad, having only slight vertical play.

4. the barrel to slide fit was awful. when locked up, the barrel had play in it. when the slide was closed, i pressed down on the barrel through the ejection port only to see movement-not good at all.

5. the barrel is hardly throated at all, and the frame feed ramp had rough machine marks.

6. it had an overall cheap feel to it. made in american does not mean much if it's not assembled properly.

7. the barrel bushing had a lot of space between it and the barrel-also not good.

8. the trigger was loosely fit and rattling. it also had about an 8lb gritty pull. (it's series 80, but jeez).

9. the wood checkered grips were the nicest part on the gun.



just wanted to pass along my initial impressions. i really liked the features i read about, but was really disappointed after actually looking at an R1.

i am in the market for a GI model, and held out buying a springfield mil spec until i had a chance to check the R1--i will be purchasing the mil spec.

drc767
06-06-2010, 16:06
....that is too bad. I have heard the same impressions from multiple people this weekend. It does not look good....Sounds like they need to work out some of the bugs on this one.

BOGE
06-06-2010, 16:41
:crying:

samuse
06-06-2010, 16:51
Hmm. Exactly what I had envisioned. Thanks for the review.

bac1023
06-06-2010, 16:54
Not good.

Maybe they rushed them to market. Either way, that's not acceptable for Remington, in my opinion.

Don Glock
06-06-2010, 16:55
maybe the STI GI model displayed at the SHOT show will be better. that one's made in america too.

bac1023
06-06-2010, 16:57
maybe the STI GI model displayed at the SHOT show will be better. that one's made in america too.

Hopefully, because the STI Spartan is not.

Don Glock
06-06-2010, 17:06
Hopefully, because the STI Spartan is not.



the STI GI model will be more expensive than the spartan because it is made in america.


http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/Onufriyenko/Articles/SHOTShow2010/JC7_1385.jpg


http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=258047

Jason D
06-06-2010, 17:21
That sounds terrible.
The dealer sample I looked at a few weeks back was fairly impressive.

faawrenchbndr
06-06-2010, 17:25
I looked at one today,......hate to say it, but the fit and finish
on a Taurus is MUCH better than the Remington.

I hope this is not a direction Remington is headed! :dunno:

drc767
06-06-2010, 17:33
the STI GI model will be more expensive than the spartan because it is made in america.


http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/Onufriyenko/Articles/SHOTShow2010/JC7_1385.jpg


http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=258047

Now THAT is nice!! Except those grips don't cut it....

Cobra64
06-06-2010, 17:40
it's price was $619, and they just got it in yesterday.

i didn't shoot it, but this was what i noticed.


1. the fit was much less than impressive.

2. the beavertail safety wasn't blended to the frame properly, and also had VERY sharp edges at the tang. it was VERY uncomfortable simply to hold it, i can only imagine what shooting it would be like. even when fully depressed, it protrudes very far from the back of the grip frame.

3. the slide/frame fit was not bad, having only slight vertical play.

4. the barrel to slide fit was awful. when locked up, the barrel had play in it. when the slide was closed, i pressed down on the barrel through the ejection port only to see movement-not good at all.

5. the barrel is hardly throated at all, and the frame feed ramp had rough machine marks.

6. it had an overall cheap feel to it. made in american does not mean much if it's not assembled properly.

7. the barrel bushing had a lot of space between it and the barrel-also not good.

8. the trigger was loosely fit and rattling. it also had about an 8lb gritty pull. (it's series 80, but jeez).

9. the wood checkered grips were the nicest part on the gun.



just wanted to pass along my initial impressions. i really liked the features i read about, but was really disappointed after actually looking at an R1.

i am in the market for a GI model, and held out buying a springfield mil spec until i had a chance to check the R1--i will be purchasing the mil spec.

Most likely Remington farmed it out for Colt to build.

Cobra64
06-06-2010, 17:41
the STI GI model will be more expensive than the spartan because it is made in america.


http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/Onufriyenko/Articles/SHOTShow2010/JC7_1385.jpg


http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=258047

That's sweet!

Don Glock
06-06-2010, 17:50
Most likely Remington farmed it out for Colt to build.


this is from Remington's site:

These guns are built in our manufacturing facility in Ilion, NY.

bac1023
06-06-2010, 17:50
Most likely Remington farmed it out for Colt to build.


:rofl:

bac1023
06-06-2010, 17:51
the STI GI model will be more expensive than the spartan because it is made in america.


http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/Onufriyenko/Articles/SHOTShow2010/JC7_1385.jpg


http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=258047



Looks very nice.

No more STIs for me though. I have enough. ;)

Don Glock
06-06-2010, 17:52
That's sweet!


it does, except it's got the same style "sharp" grip safety as the R1 :wow:


http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/fierophreak/Guns/scan0001.jpg

bac1023
06-06-2010, 17:54
it does, except it's got the same style "sharp" grip safety as the R1 :wow:




Well, it needs to have something similar to that to work well with the GI hammer.

Cobra64
06-06-2010, 17:56
this is from Remington's site:

You missed my earlier rant several weeks ago re my new Colt 1911 WWI 1918 Reproduction that is a POS.

Don Glock
06-06-2010, 17:57
Well, it needs to have something similar to that to work well with the GI hammer.



not at all. notice the curved tang on the underside of the springfield mil spec:

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Image177.jpg

Don Glock
06-06-2010, 17:58
You missed my earlier rant several weeks ago re my new Colt 1911 WWI 1918 Reproduction that is a POS.


oh, sorry to hear that. i've only seen one of those, and it's fit was exceptional. did you end up selling it?

bac1023
06-06-2010, 18:01
not at all. notice the curved tang on the underside of the springfield mil spec:



I see what you're saying. I wasn't 100% sure what you were referring to.

MD357
06-06-2010, 20:18
I was curious as to why everyone was getting their skirt blown up by these coming out. Locally, the guys won't shut up about them. It's gonna be interesting when the local shops get some in.

GVFlyer
06-06-2010, 22:05
Hopefully, the Remington is just having developmental problems and later production guns will be better.

bac1023
06-06-2010, 22:09
I was curious as to why everyone was getting their skirt blown up by these coming out. Locally, the guys won't shut up about them. It's gonna be interesting when the local shops get some in.

I guess because of the name and the simple fact that Remington hasn't produced any auto in many years.

I know it struck interest in me for those reasons. :dunno:

Don Glock
06-06-2010, 22:19
I guess because of the name and the simple fact that Remington hasn't produced any auto in many years.

I know it struck interest in me for those reasons. :dunno:

i didn't expect anything amazing. i just wanted to see how the R1 was before deciding on a GI 1911. i like to keep my options open.

the reason i was so surprised was that i can't remember ever seeing such a poorly built 1911! i'm not exaggerating either. that's what surprised me. i certainly wasn't expecting it to be that bad :)

bac1023
06-07-2010, 01:10
i didn't expect anything amazing. i just wanted to see how the R1 was before deciding on a GI 1911. i like to keep my options open.

the reason i was so surprised was that i can't remember ever seeing such a poorly built 1911! i'm not exaggerating either. that's what surprised me. i certainly wasn't expecting it to be that bad :)

That is concerning to hear. :shakehead:

maverick9614
06-07-2010, 11:19
I looked at one today,......hate to say it, but the fit and finish
on a Taurus is MUCH better than the Remington.

I hope this is not a direction Remington is headed! :dunno:

Wow, Satan's wearing wool knickers tonight! Never thought I would hear tht being said.

Don Glock
06-07-2010, 14:15
That is concerning to hear. :shakehead:



i noticed you mentioned on another thread that you ordered an R1. i would definitely have a look see at it before committing to payment, my friend :)

Don Glock
06-07-2010, 14:16
Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr
I looked at one today,......hate to say it, but the fit and finish
on a Taurus is MUCH better than the Remington.

I hope this is not a direction Remington is headed!


you know, i really didn't think about it in these terms, but i have to say the taurus 1911's i've looked at were indeed fit better.


i also never in my life thought i would make this statement! :wow::wow: