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nickrod
06-06-2010, 22:22
I am looking into purchasing my next firearm. I own 9mm, 40's and 357. Looking now for a 22. I am looking for something expensive, but reliable and fun to shoot.

I have been looking at Phoenix Arms 22, Walther P22, Sig Mosquito
Also glancing at Ruger Mark II & III also the Beretta Bobcat

I am very indecisive at this point and am also looking for something that is in a reasonable price range and FUN too shot. (Mostly for my gf so it's for fun! :)

Thanks

nickrod

the fool
06-06-2010, 23:10
Ruger Mark II

Glock 17L
06-06-2010, 23:27
Another vote for the Ruger MKII

If money were not an option a Smith & Wesson Model41

steve1911
06-06-2010, 23:34
Good advice above, take look Browning BuckMarks also.


1911club#410

mitchshrader
06-06-2010, 23:34
I'm a happy owner of a Mk III Target, 6 7/8 barrel, fiber optics, good gun.

CajunBass
06-07-2010, 07:23
Ruger MK anything. I, II, or III it really doesn't matter.

Browning is just as good from what people say, but I've never owned one.

deadite
06-07-2010, 09:51
Any of these would be perfect.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/DSCN0431.jpg

deadite

DDrag50
06-07-2010, 10:10
I love my Browning BuckMark Target.
I use this one shooting in ISI Steel Challenge Shooting.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/DDrag50/Browning%20Buck%20Mark/RedDotLeft.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/DDrag50/Browning%20Buck%20Mark/Reddotright.jpg

jbh2000
06-07-2010, 10:30
If you want one that handles and feels like a real-life carry-type pistol, go with the Walther P22. Older magazines were a problem, but they solved that around 2003. I sure miss mine.:(

Aiden
06-07-2010, 11:05
Ruger Mk II is pretty fun to shoot, I'll throw my vote for that.

vafish
06-07-2010, 11:48
I am looking into purchasing my next firearm. I own 9mm, 40's and 357. Looking now for a 22. I am looking for something expensive, but reliable and fun to shoot.

I have been looking at Phoenix Arms 22, Walther P22, Sig Mosquito
Also glancing at Ruger Mark II & III also the Beretta Bobcat

I am very indecisive at this point and am also looking for something that is in a reasonable price range and FUN too shot. (Mostly for my gf so it's for fun! :)

Thanks

nickrod

Did you mean Inexpensive? The guns you listed aren't very expensive.

Of the guns you listed the only 2 I would recommend are the Ruger or Beretta.

The Beretta Bobcat is a reliable and fun little gun, but it's not much of a target pistol.

The Rugers are great guns.

You also should consider the S+W 21A, Browning Buckmark and Beretta NEOS.

GlockPride
06-07-2010, 13:53
Ruger MK II with fluted barrel.

deadite
06-07-2010, 15:15
Ruger MK II with fluted barrel.

Did the Mark II's have fluted barrels? I thought only the Mark III Hunters had the flutes. Not sure.

deadite

stopatrain
06-07-2010, 15:17
Browning or Ruger.

Jason D
06-07-2010, 16:55
You can take a few hundred dollar Ruger and turn it into a 1200 dollar gun pretty easily.
When the day is done, it's still a Ruger.

There is the S&W M41 that has been mentioned, or you can look for a used Hamden High Standard 106 or 107. There is also the Beretta 87 to think about.

Quigley
06-07-2010, 17:13
Really can't go wrong with a Browning Buckmark. It is very accurate and the trigger is amazing.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz360/lukedrylie/BrowningBuckmark.jpg

bigez
06-07-2010, 17:22
Ruger MKII

The Browning Buckmarks look good too, but I've never owned one.

BuckeyeBlast
06-07-2010, 17:31
The MKII (and MKIIIs) are great, as is the MKIII 22/45. I love them both. If I had the choice between a MKIII and a MKIII 22/45 w/ both the same finish and barrel length, I'd go w/ the 22/45.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f93/jmbiviano/Gun%20Porn/PICT0083-1.jpg

HAMMERHEAD
06-07-2010, 17:34
You can still find Mark II's out there. I would buy a used Mark II before I bought another Mark III.

Glock 17L
06-07-2010, 17:41
Any of these would be perfect.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/DSCN0431.jpg

deadite

Damn Dude!!
You got all the killer 22s.. SWEET!!:wavey:

nnickatnight
06-07-2010, 18:30
Current or recent production, Rugers hands down. However, High Standard made some killer pistols like the HD military, Field King, and Sport King, that shouldn't be overlooked and that solid type pistol simply isn't made anymore. Parts are available so I'd at least give it a look!

deadite
06-07-2010, 18:31
Damn Dude!!
You got all the killer 22s.. SWEET!!:wavey:

Thanks, my man! Still looking for a Belgian Browning Medalist, and S&W K22, and a Colt Match Target.

deadite

Njanear
06-07-2010, 19:17
I like my Ruger Mk.II the best - but the Beretta NEOS is also a nice inexpensive pistol (we have both a 6" and a 4.5").

GlockPride
06-07-2010, 19:45
Did the Mark II's have fluted barrels? I thought only the Mark III Hunters had the flutes. Not sure.

deadite

Well, shows ya what I don't know. I was thinking the Hunter.

Guess you could just bust out yer milling machine...

deadite
06-07-2010, 19:50
Well, shows ya what I don't know. I was thinking the Hunter.

Guess you could just bust out yer milling machine...

Ha! Happens to the best of us. :)

deadite

Faulkner
06-08-2010, 13:27
Ruger MKII with Tactical Solutions PAC-LIT aluminum upper. Turns a very good .22 pistol into a fantastic tack driver.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL488/1124764/2120947/296826184.jpg

unit1069
06-08-2010, 22:37
I found a used Ruger Mark II with 6 7/8" tapered barrel last year. It looked like it had never been cleaned and I began cleaning it after every trip to the range.

I finally got it spiffed up pretty well and then installed a Volquartsen extractor because the old one was chipped. It significantly increased the reliability.

I conducted a torture test to see how many rounds I could shoot without cleaning before a FTE. I made it past 1,000 rounds before the first FTE, and this was all shooting the cheap bulk pack ammo found at Wal-Mart.

This is the only .22lr pistol I've ever owned but I can recommend it. Once you understand how to field strip the gun and reassemble it you're good to go. If I can learn to do it anybody can.

Glock 17L
06-08-2010, 23:31
Just like unit1069 recomends, The Ruger MKII Target is one of the best least expensive target pistols out there..
My 1986 MKII has Volquartzen extractor & trigger kit..
As stated above it loves the Federal 550 value pack from Wal-Mart..
Gary
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1563/rugermkiikmk678t.jpg

Morgo
06-08-2010, 23:33
S&W 41 :)

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1030219.jpg

DustyJacket
06-09-2010, 01:26
Less expensive Ruger MK I, II, or III
More expensive: S&W M41


Morgo: What muzzle brake is that on your M41 ?

Mine is the factory brake:
http://www.dustyjacket.com/images/m41.jpg

Morgo
06-09-2010, 01:37
Not sure, I had assumed it was a factory brake. Works well though :)

Glock 17L
06-09-2010, 03:49
One of these days I'll have a M41, Till then the Ruger MKII will do..

deadite
06-09-2010, 06:00
One of these days I'll have a M41, Till then the Ruger MKII will do..

Both are very accurate, but the level of craftsmenship is a bit different. My Mark II with the red-dot is VERY accurate, but my 41, and not to mention the Challenger, are just as accurate with iron target sights even without the red-dot.

My Father-in-Law has a S&W model 46, which is the economy version of the 41 that is no longer made. I believe that they were originally made as a run of target pistols for the Air Force shooting team in the 50's or 60's. It has the longer 7" barrel, but no compensator, and for all intents and purposes, it's almost the same as a newer 41.

What's so cool about the older 41's is the deep blueing and level of finishing, but the new 41's have a lesser quality of finish. That's not to say that they are not every bit as good and accurate as the older ones. I say that to illustrate that the older 46 is just as good as a new 41. They aren't interchangable with all 41 parts, though. That 46 of his is a tack driver and is the most accurate rimfire that I've personally shot. If you see one, grab it.

deadite

PzGren
06-09-2010, 08:31
Did you mean Inexpensive? The guns you listed aren't very expensive.




That is what I was thinking! Quality rimfire pistols have always been expensive and if you want a good domestic rimfire pistol, you cannot go wrong with a S&W M41.

I have it on my shortlist and believe me, I have really expensive rimfire guns!

Another Miller
06-13-2010, 21:25
I have a Ruger slabside mkII competition model pistol. This pistol shoots as good as rifles but, its balance is a bit off with that heavy stainless steel barrel.


They already come with alot of features.

Havasu
06-13-2010, 21:52
If what you're looking for is something Fun to shoot, here's a different suggestion. For about the price of a Ruger Mark III on Gun Broker you can pick up a nice ERMA. It's a post war copy of the Luger, manufactured in Germany, largely on machinery used to make the Lugers. They are reliable, fun to shoot, have a very similar grip angle to the Ruger, are somewhat unique, and if you ever tire of it, it will probably be worth more than you paid for it. It's worth a look.

I have a Mark III and 2 Ermas and I shoot the Ermas a lot more than the Ruger.

GPalmer
06-13-2010, 22:45
Good advice above, take look Browning BuckMarks also.
+1, the Rugers and Brownings are the best I've used.

g34fan
06-15-2010, 13:56
S&W Model 41 without question!!!

98_1LE
06-15-2010, 18:38
One of these days I'll have a M41, Till then the Ruger MKII will do..

Me too.

rhino673
06-15-2010, 18:44
ruger or browning!!!

RedHaze
06-15-2010, 19:25
Somebody has to come in and say HiStandard!

Guess it'll be me! By far my favorite handgun to shoot.
Granted I haven't handled a M41...

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5931/histandard.jpg

Norske
06-15-2010, 20:28
No experience with Rugers.

But I love my Browning Buckmark equipped with a Tactical Solutions barrel and matching Cascade Ti suppressor.

3" groups at 25 yards off the bench with four different loads, including Wally-World bulk pack Remington and Federal LR-HPs.

Best yet, it shoots to the exact point of aim both with and without the suppressor.

It don't get much better than that!

:supergrin:

Kentucky Shooter
06-16-2010, 20:35
Revolver? S&W 617. Mine is the 6 shot with a 6" barrel----- a 4" might even be better, but the 6" is good for all-around use as well.

Semi-Auto? Ruger 22-45, preferably a Mark II but I could also live with the mark 3. I like the 4" barrel with adjustable sights.

Batesmotel
06-23-2010, 00:52
S&W Model 41 without question!!!

Own one and you will never regret it.

A6Gator
06-23-2010, 13:11
Ruger Mk III or Browning Buckmark

Browning runs like a top since I sent it back for factory warranty service....The grip feels more natural, but it doesn't come w/anything (1 mag).

Ruger is pretty bulletproof, but taking it apart is an exercise in patience. There seems to be more aftermarket stuff for the Ruger. Ruger comes with an extra mag and a scope mount, if you're looking to add a dot or scope.

rkguy9
06-24-2010, 05:54
I have the short barrel adj sight target version and would but it against any of the pricey target models as well at the not so pricey models for accuracy!

TECH51
06-24-2010, 12:55
My 10yr old loves his Colt Woodsman and his Walther P22.

PzGren
06-24-2010, 20:13
I have the short barrel adj sight target version and would but it against any of the pricey target models as well at the not so pricey models for accuracy!

You will be stunned by the difference of the Traiside to a real Hämmerli, like the 208/215. It is probably hard to imagine but the trigger of the 208 is much nicer.

will919
06-25-2010, 16:04
I have owned a Ruger Mark III, nice for sure but I just bought a Walther SP22 and I am extremely impressed. Wow, what a shooter

Fanner50
06-28-2010, 08:08
Something like this 17-3 is a pretty good shooter. :supergrin:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e339/AlanFla/Firearms/IMG_4727.jpg

jarubla
06-29-2010, 18:12
You can still find Mark II's out there. I would buy a used Mark II before I bought another Mark III.

+1 to this. The loaded chamber indicator is a bit of a joke

DustyJacket
06-30-2010, 18:38
My daughter agrees, the S&W M41


http://www.dustyjacket.com/shooting/Deanna-m41-1.jpg

Liquid
07-02-2010, 18:19
wow the m 41s r nice.

JoeInKS
07-02-2010, 20:53
OK Let me be the oddball of the bunch....

If you want something very reasonably priced and that will surprise you every time that you shoot it, look at the S&W Model 22A-1. The trigger's a little sloppy at first but it's been surprisingly extremely accurate and has shot every type / brand of .22LR that I have put into it without a hitch. It also has easily replaceable barrels, grips, etc.

Another pistol that's been an absolute joy to me has been the Walther SP22 M3 that I recently purchased. Besides the absolutely space age look of it, it REALLY shoots well, feels great, and has a very adjustable trigger. It comes with rails already and there are numerous add-ons made specifically for it including barrel weights, laser, tru-glo sights, grips, barrels, etc.

My favorite gun is my S&W Model 41 but you mentioned in your early post that you wanted something more reasonably priced and fun. (and yes I do like my Buck Mark and Mark II's a lot)

IV Troop
07-10-2010, 04:51
Really, there are a number of great .22 handguns out there. I have numerous in autos and revolvers. Here are a couple of favorites.

I do a lot of handgun hunting and I find the S&W Model 18 (K22) to be a fun little one:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/0062.jpg

The Model 17 is a phenomenal shooter:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/dec2006060.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/dec2006096.jpg



The Marvel .22 conversion unit has to be the most accurate 22 I have ever fired. It is phenomenal!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/0042.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/0082.jpg

IV Troop
07-10-2010, 04:56
My Ruger MKII has seen so many bricks of Rem subsonic that most people would not believe me if I posted a number:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/montanaIdaho083.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/miscgunpix.jpg

From Ground Squirrels to Coyotes, it has seen a lot of action!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/suppressedyote.jpg

IV Troop
07-10-2010, 04:58
Here is an old West German Walther PP in .22lr. This is one cool little 10 shot pocket gun!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/039.jpg

IV Troop
07-10-2010, 05:02
The old Colt Huntsman and Woodsman pistols have a perfect balance to them that make them very natural shooters:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/ColtHuntsmanWalther001.jpg

The Browning Buckmark is pretty much an update of the old Colt design.

IV Troop
07-10-2010, 05:04
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/010-1.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/012-4.jpg

snowcrash75
07-10-2010, 11:09
(Mostly for my gf so it's for fun! :)


Just gonna throw it out there, cause no one has mentioned it yet...Advantage Arms .22lr glock conversion. Ruger MKs are awesome, but heavy like a centerfire. I bought one of these kits for my wife's G17 and she LOVES it, between the aluminum slide/barrel and polymer frame, it is incredibly light.

Not sure what range you are looking to be shooting, this really isn't great over 25 yards, but its FUN and thats what you asked for. If it gets your girlfriend out shooting with you, that's all that matters.

Shortimer
07-10-2010, 14:37
I have a Ruger Mark & its a great 22 for the money. I never see anyone posting about their single six & their are an awful lot of them out there. Mine is a great little shooter & looks good to. Why does this single action fun gun get left out of these .22 threads?

Pipedreamer
07-10-2010, 18:58
I agree, the Single Six is a fantastic quality firearm that deserves respect. For the purposes of this thread, stay away from the Sig Mosquito. The Sig P226 Classic 22 is the only way to go for a fun and affordable 22. I had a Mosquito for about 4 weeks and was glad to get rid of it. The Classic 22 is a real P226 with a 22 conversion on it. I paid about 400. It functions flawlessly and I could not be happier. You can also buy the 9/40 barrel and slid for it for 350 and you have two guns for 750!

Darkangel1846
07-11-2010, 12:16
I am looking into purchasing my next firearm. I own 9mm, 40's and 357. Looking now for a 22. I am looking for something expensive, but reliable and fun to shoot.

I have been looking at Phoenix Arms 22, Walther P22, Sig Mosquito
Also glancing at Ruger Mark II & III also the Beretta Bobcat

I am very indecisive at this point and am also looking for something that is in a reasonable price range and FUN too shot. (Mostly for my gf so it's for fun! :)

Thanks

nickrod

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=221087

take a look at this.

Thunderbolt56
07-13-2010, 10:16
My Mark II 6" bull barrel has seen the most action, but my absolute favorite is my little stainless Single Six. I've plinked jackrabbit and used it as an anti-snake gun on many a hunt.

bac1023
07-15-2010, 06:53
I am looking into purchasing my next firearm. I own 9mm, 40's and 357. Looking now for a 22. I am looking for something expensive, but reliable and fun to shoot.

I have been looking at Phoenix Arms 22, Walther P22, Sig Mosquito
Also glancing at Ruger Mark II & III also the Beretta Bobcat

I am very indecisive at this point and am also looking for something that is in a reasonable price range and FUN too shot. (Mostly for my gf so it's for fun! :)

Thanks

nickrod


Out of those, stick with the Ruger for sure.

snowcrash75
07-15-2010, 09:46
Mostly for my gf so it's for fun! :)


Maybe you should take her to the LGS and let her decide for you. :supergrin:

stevemc
07-18-2010, 08:37
I clean my guns often. The Buckmark is easier to take down and clean than the Ruger, if that matters to you. Tactical Solutions has some cool stuff to mod the Buckmark also. It just works. That is the main thing when you want to go have some fun.

Steve.

bhp9mm
07-20-2010, 00:41
Ruger Mark II

Foxtrotx1
07-20-2010, 02:01
Beretta Neos

Foxtrotx1
07-20-2010, 02:02
My Ruger MKII has seen so many bricks of Rem subsonic that most people would not believe me if I posted a number:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/montanaIdaho083.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/miscgunpix.jpg

From Ground Squirrels to Coyotes, it has seen a lot of action!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/suppressedyote.jpg

Post a number, i love high round counts :wavey:

GlockBill
07-20-2010, 04:54
I'm a big fan of the Ruger MkII, but MkIII and 22/45 are also good.

worthit
07-20-2010, 08:32
I think my next one will be a 22/45 mk3 with removable grip panels. Just can't find them used yet.

RobertTy
07-28-2010, 19:49
Reconsider the pistol option, esp. when you move from 9mm or 40.

22lr is relatively flimsy in pistols, a revolver is much better. I would recommend SW 617, a real fun to shoot, or SW 317 if you like smaller revolvers.

Quigley
07-28-2010, 20:05
Reconsider the pistol option, esp. when you move from 9mm or 40.

22lr is relatively flimsy in pistols, a revolver is much better. I would recommend SW 617, a real fun to shoot, or SW 317 if you like smaller revolvers.

There is nothing flimsy about it out my Buckmark. It has also great out of the S&W model 41, Mark II or Sig Trailside's that I have shot.

RobertTy
07-28-2010, 21:07
There is nothing flimsy about it out my Buckmark. It has also great out of the S&W model 41, Mark II or Sig Trailside's that I have shot.

Not when compared to 9mm or 40 pistols, esp when you consider ***ALL*** aspects incl. maintenance, reliability, etc.

Almost every 9mm or 40 pistol is easy to disassemble, clean, operate safety, etc. Almost all 22 pistols have some quirks about dissasembly, weird cleaning, less reliability, etc. For example I have a Ruger Mark III which is a total design nonsense when opening for cleaning, its designer had to smoke something, some people can get used to it but a lot of engineers cannot just stand this nonsense as a principle, also the safety on this pistol is another nonsense and can get stuck easily, etc. The shooting reliability is another discussion, again only when compared to 9mm or 40 pistols, 22 quality revolvers are a better route.

Quigley
07-28-2010, 21:19
Not when compared to 9mm or 40 pistols, esp when you consider ***ALL*** aspects incl. maintenance, reliability, etc.

Almost every 9mm or 40 pistol is easy to disassemble, clean, operate safety, etc. Almost all 22 pistols have some quirks about dissasembly, weird cleaning, less reliability, etc. For example I have a Ruger Mark III which is a total design nonsense when opening for cleaning, its designer had to smoke something, some people can get used to it but a lot of engineers cannot just stand this nonsense as a principle, also the safety on this pistol is another nonsense and can get stuck easily, etc. The shooting reliability is another discussion, again only when compared to 9mm or 40 pistols, 22 quality revolvers are a better route.

The buckmark is easier to clean than my Glocks. Just lock the action back and clean the barrel and the action. That is all that is required to keep them running. I agree reliability is not on par with my Glocks but it is perfectly fine for what I need it for. Most of the reliability issues are with the ammo anyways. The problem with .22 revolvers is practice. I don't use or carry any revolvers so why am I going to practice with them? Also, you can't get a quality NIB DA .22 revolver for $300.

Morgo
07-28-2010, 23:39
Not when compared to 9mm or 40 pistols, esp when you consider ***ALL*** aspects incl. maintenance, reliability, etc.

Almost every 9mm or 40 pistol is easy to disassemble, clean, operate safety, etc. Almost all 22 pistols have some quirks about dissasembly, weird cleaning, less reliability, etc. For example I have a Ruger Mark III which is a total design nonsense when opening for cleaning, its designer had to smoke something, some people can get used to it but a lot of engineers cannot just stand this nonsense as a principle, also the safety on this pistol is another nonsense and can get stuck easily, etc. The shooting reliability is another discussion, again only when compared to 9mm or 40 pistols, 22 quality revolvers are a better route.

Something tells me you have not had a great range of experience with .22 semi autos.

My .22's are just as accurate and reliable as my larger counterparts when using quality .22 ammo.
As for maintenance and disassembly, my S&W model 41's are among the simplest pistols I have ever disassembled.

Eveyone knows Rugers .22's are, at times, difficult to disassemble and reassemble but you can not generalise all .22 semi autos based on experience with one brand and one model.

bogeypro
07-29-2010, 09:36
I have a steel framed Ruger MKIII. It is very accurate, BUT the dang thing falls apart while shooting it. The pin in the rear site vibrates loose, the screw in the front site comes loose, other various parts keep coming loose.

AND, taking it apart is a pain in the arse. I love shooting it, but hate keeping the parts on it and hate taking it apart.

I will be looking for another 22 lr pistol very soon!

that being said, it LOOVES cci mini mags. not any FTF or FTE in the last 500 rounds.

IV Troop
10-14-2010, 09:47
I have a steel framed Ruger MKIII. It is very accurate, BUT the dang thing falls apart while shooting it. The pin in the rear site vibrates loose, the screw in the front site comes loose, other various parts keep coming loose.

AND, taking it apart is a pain in the arse. I love shooting it, but hate keeping the parts on it and hate taking it apart.

I will be looking for another 22 lr pistol very soon!

that being said, it LOOVES cci mini mags. not any FTF or FTE in the last 500 rounds.


A couple of drops of locktite would solve mostof your issues immediately. As far as taking it apart, no arguement there. I do not care for the takedown process myself.

MSP Sarge
10-14-2010, 22:09
Thinking about the GSG 1911 .22.

BK63
10-15-2010, 17:37
I have been shooting a Ruger MKII for over 20 years and I have never even taken the thing apart to clean because I don't know how. I spray it with gun scrubber and run a rod through it. It's stainless, but otherwise it keeps on shooting. I've lost count of how many bricks of different kinds of 22's I've put through it over the years and it just keeps on going and going like the energizer bunny. Some day I'll figure out how to take it apart and put it back together.

Brucev
10-15-2010, 18:20
I am looking into purchasing my next firearm. I own 9mm, 40's and 357. Looking now for a 22. I am looking for something expensive, but reliable and fun to shoot.

I have been looking at Phoenix Arms 22, Walther P22, Sig Mosquito
Also glancing at Ruger Mark II & III also the Beretta Bobcat

I am very indecisive at this point and am also looking for something that is in a reasonable price range and FUN too shot. (Mostly for my gf so it's for fun! :)

Thanks

nickrod

If you want the very best... look around and find a nice Ruger Mk. II pistol. New ones can still be found. Used in excellent condition are not hard to find. Prices are good. Performance is simply outstanding.

deadite
10-15-2010, 20:13
I have been shooting a Ruger MKII for over 20 years and I have never even taken the thing apart to clean because I don't know how. I spray it with gun scrubber and run a rod through it. It's stainless, but otherwise it keeps on shooting. I've lost count of how many bricks of different kinds of 22's I've put through it over the years and it just keeps on going and going like the energizer bunny. Some day I'll figure out how to take it apart and put it back together.

This is for Mark III's, but it's basically the same procedure:

http://www.guntalk-online.com/fsprocedures.htm

http://www.guntalk-online.com/detailstrip.htm

You're welcome. ;)

deadite

mikey357
10-15-2010, 20:29
My vote would be for the Ruger MKII in a Semi-auto, or the S&W K-22 in a Revolver...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/mikey357/Mvc-009s.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/mikey357/Mvc-008s.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/mikey357/Mvc-001s.jpg

they're GREAT for some "Backyard Fun"!!!....mikey357

BK63
10-16-2010, 06:52
This is for Mark III's, but it's basically the same procedure:

http://www.guntalk-online.com/fsprocedures.htm

http://www.guntalk-online.com/detailstrip.htm

You're welcome. ;)

deadite

WOW! Now I know why I never took it apart :supergrin:

deadite
10-17-2010, 13:23
WOW! Now I know why I never took it apart :supergrin:

You have excellent instincts. :)

deadite

Morgo
10-17-2010, 22:10
My vote would be for the Ruger MKII in a Semi-auto, or the S&W K-22 in a Revolver...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/mikey357/Mvc-009s.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/mikey357/Mvc-008s.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/mikey357/Mvc-001s.jpg

they're GREAT for some "Backyard Fun"!!!....mikey357

Very nice setup! :)

wagonm
10-17-2010, 22:53
I have a steel framed Ruger MKIII. It is very accurate, BUT the dang thing falls apart while shooting it. The pin in the rear site vibrates loose, the screw in the front site comes loose, other various parts keep coming loose.

AND, taking it apart is a pain in the arse. I love shooting it, but hate keeping the parts on it and hate taking it apart.

I will be looking for another 22 lr pistol very soon!



I'll pay your "pain in the arse" for $150 to ease your pain. :supergrin:

deadite
10-18-2010, 09:25
WOW! Now I know why I never took it apart :supergrin:

Gunsmiths make alot of cash cleaning guns for people. If all you had to spend was $50 every 20 years to get a Smith to clean it for you, you're doing well. :)

Btw, it really isn't that hard once you get the hang of it, but honestly, you'll hate it the first time.

deadite

glockeglock
10-24-2010, 22:04
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Bilbo Bagins
10-25-2010, 11:16
Beretta 70s. Hands down, IMHO. If you find one in .22, buy it.

http://www.tactical-life.com/online/tactical-weapons/israeli-mossad-22-lrs/

Beretta still make the 87, Wicked expensive to buy NIB but still a fine pistol.

Kegs
10-25-2010, 11:31
Well if you are looking for something with the Glock appeal, get yourself an Advantage Arms conversion kit. I really enjoy having one gun that shoots rimfire or centerfire with a quick change of the slide assembly and mag vs. having to carry two guns.

If you don't mind having another pistol (and most people don't), I would vote browning buckmark.

The buckmark has the best precision for the money. It will easily shoot head to head with a ruger mark II, which are also fine pistols - but take some getting used to dis/assembling them.

You can get a drop-in challenger trigger for the buckmark units from browning that includes a overtravel stop screw. They are cheap - as in maybe $15 shipped from Browning.

If I was going to choose a dedicated .22 pistol for hunting, I would go with the cheapest URX gripped bull barreled buckmark I could find, order and install the challenger trigger, flip the sear spring, order a tactical solutions integrated rail, mill & blue the screws for flathead screwdriver dis/assembly (hex head tops are the weak part of this design), mount a 7x scope, then order 5 brands of target ammo (eley tenex, lupua midas, wolf me, etc.) and then see which one performs the best. These little guns are capable of 1 MOA if you can hold 'em that steady.

Contrast w/ the AA conversion kits which are capable of about 8 MOA, don't have a decent scope platform and are picky on ammo.

MajorD
10-26-2010, 08:20
not much of a ruger guy myself but will admit in the low end budget gun category the ruger mk series is the best bet, would also throw a good word for the buck mark by browning also. My fav is the smith 41 but is it not in the budget category by any means. I also picked up a used smith 422 and they are good reliable bargain guns as well.

g34fan
10-27-2010, 18:04
Gunsmiths make alot of cash cleaning guns for people. If all you had to spend was $50 every 20 years to get a Smith to clean it for you, you're doing well. :)

Btw, it really isn't that hard once you get the hang of it, but honestly, you'll hate it the first time.

deadite


I own a number of pistols and rifles from several manufacturers. The easiest one to take apart and clean is my S&W Model 41 .22 pistol. It's even easier than my 2 Glocks. Also my favorite gun in my safe.

deadite
10-27-2010, 19:52
I own a number of pistols and rifles from several manufacturers. The easiest one to take apart and clean is my S&W Model 41 .22 pistol. It's even easier than my 2 Glocks. Also my favorite gun in my safe.

I'll have to agree with you. The 41 is really easy to take down. My Browning Challenger is really easy, too!

deadite

napp32
10-28-2010, 00:10
I see lots of praise for the S&W M41. A question for those who have first hand experience with the pistols. Which of the two barrel lengths give the best out-of-the-box accuracy. I have just about convinced myself to spring for one of the pistols; but I would like to have some info to help make a decision when deciding upon barrel length to buy.

It is doubtful that I would ever install optics on my pistol; so accuracy with the stock steel sights is an important consideration for me.

Morgo
10-28-2010, 00:31
I see lots of praise for the S&W M41. A question for those who have first hand experience with the pistols. Which of the two barrel lengths give the best out-of-the-box accuracy. I have just about convinced myself to spring for one of the pistols; but I would like to have some info to help make a decision when deciding upon barrel length to buy.

It is doubtful that I would ever install optics on my pistol; so accuracy with the stock steel sights is an important consideration for me.

I have 3.
The 5.5 heavy barrel, 7.5 and 7.5 with a compensator.

The 7.5 with compensator is my pick :)

deadite
10-28-2010, 20:44
I have 3.
The 5.5 heavy barrel, 7.5 and 7.5 with a compensator.

The 7.5 with compensator is my pick :)

+1

I have an "A" prefix model 41 from 1978 with the cocking indicator. It came, originally, with the 5" heavy barrel. Very accurate, but I wanted another barrel that was already drilled and tapped for a rail, so I didn't have to drill the original barrel. I bought a 7" barrel from Bullseyegear.com that's made by Smith and Wesson. It has Bo-Mar type sights that are very good for zero-ing in your loads. Highly recommended.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/DSCN1914.jpg

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/DSCN1921.jpg

I'd say go with the 7" of you want out-of-the-box accuracy, simply because of the extra sight radius.

Optics can always be a future option for you with the newer 41's. All of the new ones are drilled and tapped for a rail, anyway. :)

What's cool about my set-up is that I have one barrel set up and sighted in for standard velocity ammo and the other barrel sighted in for high speed ammo when I add a stronger recoil spring and shock buffer to the mix. That way, it's like I have 2 guns.

Btw, the "feel" of the gun is purely subjective. Personally, I think they both feel about the same, but my Father in Law swears up and down that the longer barrel has better balance. Oddly enough, one of the main reasons they made the shorter 5 inch heavy barrel in the first place was that it made the gun balance better.

Anyway, you can't go wrong with either decision. Both are very accurate if you sight them in correctly and use QUALITY ammo, like CCI Standard Velocity, which is what is normally recommended for 41's.

deadite

mesteve2
11-09-2010, 09:47
Browning Buck Mark.

Fun easy shooting.

Have had Rugers they are ok.

John Hatcher
11-09-2010, 10:07
Yeah I had Rugers also this is my favorite-

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee290/RAYC22B/My%20Guns/Buckmark.jpg

lanternlad
11-13-2010, 01:19
I just picked up a PMR-30, excellent gun. If Kel-Tec makes one in .22lr, it will be the iPhone of the gun world. Everyone will want one.

deadite
11-13-2010, 15:53
I just picked up a PMR-30, excellent gun. If Kel-Tec makes one in .22lr, it will be the iPhone of the gun world. Everyone will want one.

More info, please. :)

deadite

lanternlad
11-13-2010, 23:08
More info, please. :)

deadite

Here ya go.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16295034#post16295034

deadite
11-14-2010, 10:09
Here ya go.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16295034#post16295034

Good review. Sounds like what I would expect from a KT. I had terrible luck with my PLR16 from the get go and the reported great customer service was non-existent for me. I may pass on this one. Hope you have good Lu k with yours and KT's CS.

deadite

Milezenji
11-14-2010, 11:27
Bersa Firestorm 22lr - Fun, reliable, inexpensive... Kinda hard to come by though, at least 'round here.