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bac1023
06-09-2010, 08:54
The Thompson Custom, to be exact...

http://www.auto-ordnance.com/PA-1TH_c.html

Maybe its due to it being an Auto Ordnance, which had a poor reputation in years past with their 1911s. However, they have improved a great deal over time.

The Thompson, is an attractive, clean looking, American built enhanced 1911. For $650 you can a very nicely finished gun. The grips are beautiful, in my opinion, and not only does it have checkering, but its very well done checkering. In fact, the checkering is better than some 1911s twice the price. Even the laser engraved rollmarks look good, in my opinion.

I bought mine in late 2007, which was shortly after they were introduced. Granted I only have maybe 200 rounds through it, but it works great.

Where else can you get an American 1911 of this quality for this price? The new Remington should give it competition, but its more of a GI, without all these features.

My only compliant is the trigger. Its not overly heavy, but a bit "wooden" in feel. Still, its not terrible.

This is a well done 1911. Unfortunately, there isn't many being built, which is probably a huge reason it isn't more popular.



http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_2010.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_2004.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/001-7.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/004-3.jpg




James, when are you going to pick up one of these? ;)



:supergrin:

Hokie1911
06-09-2010, 09:03
The MSH looks oddly out of place. JMHO.

Tactical black
06-09-2010, 09:22
I was looking at a parkerized WWII model the other day the shop was asking $599.00 it seemed fine. The one you have looks a lot nicer then what I looked at.

http://www.auto-ordnance.com/imgs/mdtl_1911pkz.jpg

Cerebrus
06-09-2010, 09:29
Wow if I knew about this when I ordered my Springer.. I am thinking I would have ordered this instead..but somehow I am getting the feeling that it is not legal to buy her in the PRK..:steamed:
I hate this place.. June 2011 cannot get here quick enough..

faawrenchbndr
06-09-2010, 09:38
I have been looking for a Thompson GI model locally.

bac1023
06-09-2010, 09:42
The MSH looks oddly out of place. JMHO.

Well, its plastic, like some Kimbers, Colts, and STIs.

glock2740
06-09-2010, 10:10
Well, its plastic, like some Kimbers, Colts, and STIs.
But they should have made it match like the other plastic "stainless" MSH's. It is a sharp looking gun and it's reasonably priced. I haven't ever seen one at any of my gun shops.

bac1023
06-09-2010, 10:15
I was looking at a parkerized WWII model the other day the shop was asking $599.00 it seemed fine. The one you have looks a lot nicer then what I looked at.

http://www.auto-ordnance.com/imgs/mdtl_1911pkz.jpg


I have that one too.

It is a good replica, one of the most authentic looking on the market. Its also more accurate to original spec than most of the GI replicas on the market today.

Most have lowered ejection ports, but the AO does not.

This is a horrible pic and when I get some good lighting I'll take another.


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_2037.jpg

bac1023
06-09-2010, 10:18
But they should have made it match like the other plastic "stainless" MSH's. It is a sharp looking gun and it's reasonably priced. I haven't ever seen one at any of my gun shops.



Yeah, they could have used lighter colored plastic. Since the grips are black, it doesn't bother me much.

Rinspeed
06-09-2010, 10:24
I know the Spartan isn't American made but how do the two compare.

Hokie1911
06-09-2010, 10:25
Well, its plastic, like some Kimbers, Colts, and STIs.

No biggie...easily remedied if one so chooses.

bac1023
06-09-2010, 10:38
I know the Spartan isn't American made but how do the two compare.

The Spartan has a better trigger and nicer sights (for range use, anyway), and a bit smoother overall. However, the Thompson has a much nicer, styling, finish, grips, and attention to detail. Also, the Spartan has no checkering, while the Thompson has some of the nicest checkering below $1000.

As a pure shooter, the Spartan is better, but the Thompson is a "nicer" gun, if that makes any sense. I'm not too sure it does. :headscratch:

Rinspeed
06-09-2010, 10:45
The Spartan has a better trigger and nicer sights (for range use, anyway), and a bit smoother overall. However, the Thompson has a much nicer, styling, finish, grips, and attention to detail. Also, the Spartan has no checkering, while the Thompson has some of the nicest checkering below $1000.

As a pure shooter, the Spartan is better, but the Thompson is a "nicer" gun, if that makes any sense. I'm not too sure it does. :headscratch:




Brian, which is better. :supergrin:

bac1023
06-09-2010, 11:13
Brian, which is better. :supergrin:


I like the Spartan better, since you forced me into it. :wavey:

However, that's not saying its a better 1911, its just better for me. I imagine many would pick the Thompson from sheer looks alone, not to mention it has much nicer features.

I'm a big fan of the Spartan, so my opinion is a bit biased. I like it better than a lot of 1911s. :supergrin:

CMG
06-09-2010, 11:28
Not sure why it isn't popular with those looking for a budget 1911, except there seems to be a perception that foreign-built gets you more workmanship for the same price (labor costs?).

Personally, I've owned enough different guns to have a strong set of preferences, and the Auto Ordnance guns, like most of the imports, STIs (and mid-year Springfields), have that too-square front strap/dust cover profile. It simply turns me off.

Life's too short to own guns that don't make me :supergrin: !

bac1023
06-09-2010, 11:32
No biggie...easily remedied if one so chooses.

Very true. :)

jethro21
06-09-2010, 23:20
I had posted about this 1911 awhile back, was fixin to buy one...until some of the posts here made me decide otherwise. I went with a RIA and haven't looked back, but I still find myself looking at the Thompson. It is a sweet looking gun

remat
06-09-2010, 23:26
Bad prevous reputation and the fact I have never seen one in real life. For some reason they can't dealers to stock it. Too bad, from the pics it appears really nice -- incidentally your pics are probably the best I have seen of it too :)

I didn't realize they had checkered front straps! How is the quality on the internals?

itsveryniiice
06-10-2010, 02:41
Wow. Bump so that maybe someone else sees this thread. Thats a GREAT looking gun for $650!!

To answer your question, as it pertains to me....they dont have them on display at my local shop :/

itsveryniiice
06-10-2010, 02:52
Sold out :(

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/51/products_id/16139

RonS
06-10-2010, 03:24
I've had two AOs from the pre Kahr days, both GIs, one new and un enhanced, the other was sombodies IPSC gun that they wore out. Both were solid guns, but on the older well used gun the FP stop had beaten itself into the back of the slide indicating to me that the slide material was a little soft.

bac1023
06-10-2010, 03:28
I had posted about this 1911 awhile back, was fixin to buy one...until some of the posts here made me decide otherwise. I went with a RIA and haven't looked back, but I still find myself looking at the Thompson. It is a sweet looking gun



What a shame. I'm not sure who's posts steered you away from it. :dunno:

I'm not even sure anybody here owns one and I know I never bashed it.

bac1023
06-10-2010, 03:35
Wow. Bump so that maybe someone else sees this thread. Thats a GREAT looking gun for $650!!

To answer your question, as it pertains to me....they dont have them on display at my local shop :/

Yeah, I never saw one anywhere around here either. I've seen a few on Gunbroker in the past, but none for a while.

They're pretty rare guns, to be honest. The simple fact that there's not a single model for sale on Gunbroker is telling.

I guess I answered my own question as to why they aren't more popular. :dunno:

bac1023
06-10-2010, 03:36
Bad prevous reputation and the fact I have never seen one in real life. For some reason they can't dealers to stock it. Too bad, from the pics it appears really nice -- incidentally your pics are probably the best I have seen of it too :)

I didn't realize they had checkered front straps! How is the quality on the internals?

Thanks.

The internals look decent. Nothing out of the ordinary.

BOGE
06-10-2010, 11:17
Just read on another website where Kahr Arms (owner of Auto Ordnance) just bought Magnum Research.

Quack
06-10-2010, 11:49
Just read on another website where Kahr Arms (owner of Auto Ordnance) just bought Magnum Research.

Posted in another thread this morning ;)

Just read that Kahr bought Magnum Research...

Hokie1911
06-10-2010, 12:08
Posted in another thread this morning ;)

So the rollmark will now be THOMPSON 1911G?

GAFinch
06-10-2010, 19:01
I've looked at the Thompson website before and was surprised that a company that makes only classic guns would put front cocking serrations on this model. Bac's pics do make it look possibly tolerable though. The small pics on their website do the gun no justice.

bac1023
06-10-2010, 19:11
So the rollmark will now be THOMPSON 1911G?

:rofl::rofl: