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Buckeye63
06-11-2010, 21:07
Out of a 2in. barrel ...what would be the advantage of a 357 over a 38 Spl. +P ??? I know the 357 would increase , kick.. muzzel flash , muzzel jump....
But ballisticly how much difference ???
Would the difference be worth all the bad side effects ?

I know with a 21 OZ. 38 Spl. snubbie I had it was a handful with +P

The advantages of the 38 +P would be ..use of a lighter gun ...Less muzzel flash..quicker follow up shots...

den888
06-12-2010, 10:02
Don't know the exact differences, but the .357 would provide more velocity. Of course, as you indicated, more flash, blast and recoil would come with the .357 round. I shot a S&W model 19 with a 2.5 inch barrel and the .357 rounds would have a lot of blast and flash in them.

Chup
06-13-2010, 07:39
I have found with the Right ammo and practice the 357 is no big deal. I use a 617 Taurus , 650 Taurus and a Ruger SP101. Corbon 125 g. 357 is my Ammo.

Buckeye63
06-13-2010, 13:58
I have a taurus 608 (N frame) a Taurua 627 (Med frame ) Ruger Police six 4in barrel) a Ruger Blackhawk 4 5/8 barrel...all in 357 Mag I shot 158gr. 180 gr. full house 357 mag. recoil...

i have no problem with recoil in these guns...

But in a lighter snubbie with a 2in. barrel my concern is

1. Is the powder of the 357 Mag. being burned in a 2in barrel..,or is most of it going in the fire ball at the muzzel
2. In SD ..will follow up shots be as quick or accurate with a 357 or a 38 +P
3.Or will the muzzel flash ,be blinding ,most theives and thugs come out at night...

In a heavier ,firearm at a target range ..is alot different than a self protection situation...
But when I carry a 357 Mag. firearm it is a 4in barreled all steel firearm.. where the 357 can be used at its full potential (or closer to)

Dogguy
06-19-2010, 09:12
Out of a 2in. barrel ...what would be the advantage of a 357 over a 38 Spl. +P ??? I know the 357 would increase , kick.. muzzel flash , muzzel jump....
But ballisticly how much difference ???
Would the difference be worth all the bad side effects ?

I know with a 21 OZ. 38 Spl. snubbie I had it was a handful with +P

The advantages of the 38 +P would be ..use of a lighter gun ...Less muzzel flash..quicker follow up shots...

You might want to look at this article: http://www.snubnose.info/docs/38-snub_vs_357-snub.htm

KidRado86
06-19-2010, 15:32
I prefer the 38+p out of my 2" s&w but mainly cause of price not performance. I cant tell much difference in recoil, accuracy, or any other stats. Just the simple fact its cheaper.

Berto
06-19-2010, 17:44
.357mag will still have the most power by a substantial margin with typical factory loads, but most will agree the trade off of blast and recoil isn't worth it when dealing with lightweight snubbies...you also have to consider bullet pull, too.
With a stout .38sp load like buffalo Bore +P, you'll have essentially mainstream .357mag performance in a snubby with less recoil and quicker reloads from the shorter case, and it's about as much recoil that *I* care to deal with in my small revolvers.

Whaledriver
06-20-2010, 22:13
Like someone has said before shooting a 357 out of the j-frames is like slamming your hand in a car door. Granted in a high stress situation you will not feel it but the flash and the motivation to shoot the SOB training wise is not desirable.

Ganesh
06-25-2010, 21:57
I carry a S&W 340 M&P. Basically a 13oz. .357 snubbie. Great little boomer...Very nicely built. Tho, cuz im an idiot...I tend to practice with .38's shootin lead reloads which works just fine. But there is extra lead added everywhere. Cleaning the face of the cylinder too much and well, i slightly removed some of the DLC coating off of the face right at the edge of the holes. Not really noticeable for anyone else cept me, heh. Now I take the cylinder off and soak it in Hoppes no. 9 solution overnight the re-scrub with a nylon brush...the face comes away clean as a whistle.

Oops, got sidetracked. My snubbie is a 1 7/8" barrel...but still close to the 2" yer askin on. As far as performance....really in all honesty with that compared to .38 spl +p, theres really not much difference. I shoot both in this gun, tho for two legged predators i carry the .38 spl +p for when I hunt hogs in the field ill load up 158 gr. solids in .357 for last ditch defence if i need it.

But when i practice i tend to not wear shootin gloves, and keep to the stock grips. With that in mind. Full house .357s suck to shoot many in it. So most of my range time tends to be with the .38's. No gloves and two to three cylinders of .357s = pain and blood coming from the web of my hand near the thumb. And no matter how hard i grip or how the hold is...that beast bites back. I still shoot em tho, cuz its so dang fun to do so. Even more fun when the "big boys" wanna try her out with their big meaty hands, heh. Size matters with this little magnum. The smaller the hand the easier it is on ya it seems, with factory grips that is.

cowboywannabe
06-25-2010, 22:35
i had one of my S&W 640-1s MagNa-Ported and now when i fire full powered .357s in it its like a .38spl+p.

all the recoil of the .38spl+p but a lot more POWER.

Buckeye63
07-03-2010, 19:43
http://onfinite.com/libraries/1603083/abe.jpg

Picked this gun up earlier this week...3in.357 mag.
I was lucky to find a used one in this great condition...
I really like the balance of this little big gun,
I feel the 3in barrel will enable the 357 Mag. ammo to be used closer to its potential..and 38 +Ps are a breeze...


http://onfinite.com/libraries/1599027/63a.jpg

and heres another 3in 357 mag snubbie a 8 shot DAO Taurus 608