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Quack
06-12-2010, 13:57
for those not following, here's the detail pics that i did of the R1
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1230471

So I went to the range today with Hokieshooter (and his son) and knedrgr (and his brother) so I could get some trigger time on the Remington. I did not do any of my usual work to it, such as lapping the frame and slide with the JB Bore paste slurry, cleaning up the hammer & sear or putting a flat trigger in, just detail stripped, clean and lube. I put about 150rds through the Remington. I didn't have any malfunctions, but knedrgr experienced a strange FTFeed on about the 4th mag in. Mags used were the 2 factory mags and Wilson ETM mags. No issues with either. The trigger has creep in it, but wasn't really noticeable when shooting.

There was no un-usual dis-comfort while gripping the gun, just the same marks i get from shooting a 1911 with a standard grip safety. It wasn't trigger bite, just the grip safety digging into the web of my hand.

Here is a pic of the 1st mag through it. I was shooting 2-handed in an isosceles stance at 7rds to get a feel for it. The first shot was the lonely high shot and the 2nd shot was the one in the 6 (or upside down 9) ring.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/danno_man/a91df0fc.jpg

so i did more shooting between the Trophy Match, TRP, EMP, STI Edge, Kobra Carry and Remington, as well as letting sample the different guns.

Now i'm down to my last 18rds, so i send the target out to 15yrds. The first 4rds were high, since i was trying to see where the bullet impact would be with it. The next 2rds were in the 8ring and now i got the elevation correct. the remaining 12 rounds are in the 10/9 ring cluster. The main cluster is <2".

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/danno_man/4d130d34.jpg

I shot the knedrgr's mil-spec and at 7yrds, it was shooting ~2" low for me. Compared to the Mil-spec, the sights on the Remington were easier to see/pickup. Over-all i am very impressed with the Remington and feel that if the other's out there are similar to mine, Springfield has stiff competition in the entry level 1911 market.

Quack
06-12-2010, 13:58
i just got a message from Hokieshooter which read:

LOL I'm seriously thinking about offloading the M&P and picking up a Remington. :supergrin:

:animlol:

Tactical black
06-12-2010, 14:26
Sounds like you got a decent one that's good news.

Trey83
06-12-2010, 14:32
Thanks for the review. It sounds like a real shooter for for the price range.

Don Glock
06-12-2010, 14:32
thanks for the range reprt, mr friend :)


just curious, what kind of ammo did you use, quack?

SargeMO
06-12-2010, 14:32
Great Quack- and thanks!

Hokie1911
06-12-2010, 14:33
After putting a couple of magazines through the Remington, I can say it was niiiiiiiice. Actually like the feel better than the TRP IMHO. That is $650 well spent.

Quack
06-12-2010, 14:34
thanks for the range reprt, mr friend :)


just curious, what kind of ammo did you use, quack?

oops, i knew i forgot something. i was 230gr Blazer Aluminum

Hokie1911
06-12-2010, 14:36
After shooting the Kobra Carry, I have decided to sell one of my kidneys on the black market to fund one. I can get by with just one kidney right?

For those of you that haven't shot an EMP, you're missing out. That is a FABULOUS pistola.

Don Glock
06-12-2010, 14:38
oops, i knew i forgot something. i was 230gr Blazer Aluminum


glad to hear it fed that, some 1911's won't. how many rounds? :whistling::supergrin:

Quack
06-12-2010, 14:38
After shooting the Kobra Carry, I have decided to sell one of my kidneys on the black market to fund one. I can get by with just one kidney right?

For those of you that haven't shot an EMP, you're missing out. That is a FABULOUS pistola.

:rofl:


FWIW, the EMP was my guinea pig for the flat trigger and 10-8 rear sight.

Quack
06-12-2010, 14:39
glad to hear it fed that, some 1911's won't. how many rounds? :whistling::supergrin:

total of 150rds through the Remington.

also used up 150rds though the other's and 100rds of 9mm WWB through the Edge and EMP.

Don Glock
06-12-2010, 14:40
:rofl:


FWIW, the EMP was my guinea pig for the flat trigger and 10-8 rear sight.

i ordered one those 10-8 curved button mag releases for my EMP40. should be arrive on monday. i was thinking of the flat trigger, but SA just fit a new trigger to mine, as the old one was loose, so i don't know if i will now.... (it's still at SA) lol

Hokie1911
06-12-2010, 14:46
:rofl:


FWIW, the EMP was my guinea pig for the flat trigger and 10-8 rear sight.

Yeah the flat triggers took a little adjustment for me. Well, that...and I haven't shot in about 5 years, and haven't shot .45 in at least 10 . Eh, I kept most of them in the head. The sprayed 22LR holes would be from my 12 year old with the M&P. He was squeezing rounds off as fast as he could. :supergrin:

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/rifle/photo2.jpg

My .22 holes are in the face and chest. His, well....were a little here and there.

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/rifle/photo.jpg

Quack
06-12-2010, 14:48
well you got better near the end. You were killing the bullseye with the STI :supergrin:

Hokie1911
06-12-2010, 14:54
well you got better near the end. You were killing the bullseye with the STI :supergrin:

That thing was smoooooth.

Quack
06-12-2010, 14:56
Yes it is...

BTW, i told you i wasn't 5'2" :rofl:

Hokie1911
06-12-2010, 15:01
Yes it is...

BTW, i told you i wasn't 5'2" :rofl:

:rofl: Hell, you're probably 4-6" taller than me.

bac1023
06-12-2010, 15:30
That's great news guys and nice shooting.

I'm really looking forward to picking one up. :cool:

If I'm ever out that way, we could do some shooting. :)

Eyescream
06-12-2010, 15:42
Thanks for the review, Quack.

You've just about sold me on putting a flat trigger in my Spartan. :rofl:

Quack
06-12-2010, 16:04
That's great news guys and nice shooting.

I'm really looking forward to picking one up. :cool:

If I'm ever out that way, we could do some shooting. :)

Thanks!!!

I used to go to the Philly area quite often, but my friend moved down to NC.

if your dealer gets a few in, look through them until you find a good one.
Third times a charm for me :supergrin:

Quack
06-12-2010, 16:05
Thanks for the review, Quack.

You've just about sold me on putting a flat trigger in my Spartan. :rofl:

No Problem.

I might have flat triggers for sale. i kinda liked the short curved trigger :wow: :rofl:

Eyescream
06-12-2010, 16:10
I just wish my rear sight wasn't an LPA cut.

Quack
06-12-2010, 18:06
since i got the initial range report done, it was time to do work :)

just got done with the trigger work.
the hooks were larger than i previously thought, they were .024"
i cut them down to .020".
i also cleaned up the sear face and relief angle.
the trigger is much nicer now and the creep is now gone :supergrin:

bac1023
06-12-2010, 18:15
Thanks!!!

I used to go to the Philly area quite often, but my friend moved down to NC.

if your dealer gets a few in, look through them until you find a good one.
Third times a charm for me :supergrin:

From all the different reports I've been hearing, maybe they do have a quality control problem. :dunno:

Hokie1911
06-12-2010, 18:23
From all the different reports I've been hearing, maybe they do have a quality control problem. :dunno:

I will be sure to take Quality Assurance Inspector Quack with me if and when I pick one up.

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BOGE
06-12-2010, 18:26
Thanks for a great report and photos. :cool:

Quack
06-12-2010, 18:27
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

knedrgr
06-12-2010, 18:33
That thing was smoooooth.

Smooth, yes. But that 2.5# trigger is just ridiculous! I had a few AD with that pistol.

Don Glock
06-12-2010, 18:35
I will be sure to take Quality Assurance Inspector Quack with me if and when I pick one up.

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quack said he got the best one out of three they had.....:rofl:

Quack
06-12-2010, 18:36
Smooth, yes. But that 2.5# trigger is just ridiculous! I had a few AD with that pistol.

i wouldn't call it an AD, just an unexpected double tap :whistling:

knedrgr
06-12-2010, 18:36
The Remington is a solid gun for the price. Still not a fan of the GI grip safety since I've slightly modify my Mil-Spec's grip safety.

Quack
06-12-2010, 18:37
quack said he got the best one out of three they had.....:rofl:
:rofl:
they had more, but i was happy with this one.

Quack
06-12-2010, 18:38
The Remington is a solid gun for the price. Still not a fan of the GI grip safety since I've slightly modify my Mil-Spec's grip safety.

and that's why i was like "WTF, why isn't it firing?" when i shot your mil-spec. when i got home i remembered that you re-shaped it.

knedrgr
06-12-2010, 20:45
and that's why i was like "WTF, why isn't it firing?" when i shot your mil-spec. when i got home i remembered that you re-shaped it.

I was saying WTF too. Once I finish the reshaping, it should fix the problem.

Fire_Medic
06-13-2010, 06:27
Congrats Quack, I truly don't care for the one we have at the store at all, glad yours is working out for you.
:wavey:

Quack
06-13-2010, 07:05
Thanks!!!

here's the updated pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/danno_man/DSC_3097.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/danno_man/DSC_3093.jpg

Cerebrus
06-13-2010, 09:31
Man but that flat trigger just looks great on that gun. That being said, have you ever installed the SVI triglide? as I am considering that for my SA Loaded.. as the current trigger feels like a 10 lb brick.
Great info on the range report.. and it does sound like that Remington has some QC issues. This makes me lean to the STI Spartan for my next 1911..

Quack
06-13-2010, 09:40
Thanks!!!
i have installed a Infinity ITS (Inter-changeable Trigger System) in my STI Edge, so no problem installing them. i just like solid triggers. as for the Tri-Glide system, i was thinking of installing it in my Edge, but read that small ball bearing (which makes it the Tri-Glide system) can and does fall out (from what i've read on the Brian Enos forum). if you are not looking for a super light trigger, standard (non-Tri-Glide) parts work well. in my triggers i prefer to use factory Colt sear springs and Ed Brown 19# main springs. I use an Ed Brown sear jig for my trigger job work.

Hokie1911
06-13-2010, 09:44
Thanks!!!

here's the updated pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/danno_man/DSC_3093.jpg

That looks pretty sweet. Nice work brother. :thumbsup:

Cerebrus
06-13-2010, 09:45
Good to know about the ball bearing falling out.. with my luck it would happen at the most inopportune time :upeyes:
As for doing the work I would have to farm it out as I have yet to perform the detail strip, and messing about with the ignition system with my limited knowledge frankly makes me more than a little uneasy. Any idea how much a job like that would cost?
O and sorry about 'jackin the thread :whistling:

Quack
06-13-2010, 09:48
Good to know about the ball bearing falling out.. with my luck it would happen at the most inopportune time :upeyes:
As for doing the work I would have to farm it out as I have yet to perform the detail strip, and messing about with the ignition system with my limited knowledge frankly makes me more than a little uneasy. Any idea how much a job like that would cost?
O and sorry about 'jackin the thread :whistling:

trigger jobs would be $100+
if you can detail strip a gun, then i would suggest a C&S trigger kit. It's a really nice setup. I have the Super Match in my 9mm Loaded. The only fitting i needed to do was take a little more off the thumb safety where it blocks the sear.

bac1023
06-13-2010, 10:10
Thanks!!!

here's the updated pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/danno_man/DSC_3097.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/danno_man/DSC_3093.jpg

Looks great, Quack! :thumbsup:

Ruggles
06-13-2010, 11:16
Great looking 1911!

Quack
06-13-2010, 12:05
thanks!!!

Tactical black
06-13-2010, 16:02
Looks nice. :)

Cerebrus
06-13-2010, 17:19
trigger jobs would be $100+
if you can detail strip a gun, then i would suggest a C&S trigger kit. It's a really nice setup. I have the Super Match in my 9mm Loaded. The only fitting i needed to do was take a little more off the thumb safety where it blocks the sear.
I was thinking of going with the Nowlin Speed demon.. saw the drop in kit at Brownells..

Don Glock
06-13-2010, 17:43
hey, good work there, quack :)

Quack
06-13-2010, 17:46
I was thinking of going with the Nowlin Speed demon.. saw the drop in kit at Brownells..

read not so positive results on the Nowlin's kit as well.

Quack
06-13-2010, 17:47
hey, good work there, quack :)

Thanks!!!

now it's time to take a deep breath and start on fitting a new grip safety. :faint:

Cerebrus
06-13-2010, 18:34
Well ok then.. the C&S is a bit more spendy.. but eh its only money.. so what trigger weight should I get for an edc?.. I guess I am thinking that I don't need a mouse fart to set the trigger off..:upeyes:

Quack
06-13-2010, 18:37
Well ok then.. the C&S is a bit more spendy.. but eh its only money.. so what trigger weight should I get for an edc?.. I guess I am thinking that I don't need a mouse fart to set the trigger off..:upeyes:

whatever is within factory spec.

knedrgr
06-14-2010, 21:14
now it's time to take a deep breath and start on fitting a new grip safety. :faint:

What are you going to put on?

Quack
06-14-2010, 21:18
Don't know yet, but if it's a beavertail it'll be a Brown.

knedrgr
06-14-2010, 21:20
If you get the radius jig, we might just do my Mil-Spec... :lol:

Quack
06-14-2010, 21:23
don't know if it'll work on the mil-spec, since the frame tangs are smaller.
the S&A .220" will definitely work for you.

Quack
06-14-2010, 21:38
here's what a Mil-spec looks like when trying to fit a Brown GS.

http://www.blindhogg.com/pics/bt12.jpg