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thinktwice
06-14-2010, 22:42
I am looking for a good reliable tactical home defense shotgun, and hoping some of you guy can help me out. I want an 18" (12ga) barrel either pump or auto. My budget would be in the $300.00- $600.00 range. I do realize I am not going to find too many auto loaders in this price range but would like to. So a pump will be just fine. Would like it to be parkerized or a similar finish. Any of you guys have any ideas?

ubersoldat
06-14-2010, 22:47
Remington 870 or mossberg 500 series.

B Coyote
06-15-2010, 01:36
Clicky (http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model-870/model-870-express-synthetic-18inch.aspx)

or

Clicky (http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model-870/model-870-express-synthetic-7-round.aspx)

Use the extra money in your budget for ammunition and training.

bc

mixflip
06-15-2010, 01:36
I never get tired of this age old question!

If you go pump, trust your life to a plane Jane Remington 870 or a Mossberg 500. You might get one used for $200 $250-ish?

If you have $600 as you mentioned you can get what a few of us here have which is a Benelli SuperNova Tactical which I love so much I even made a youtube video review of it.

Here is a Benelli SNT that I paid $450
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKIUaiLc0yU Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTrx8c-eOs&feature=related Part 2

Or a Mossberg 930 SPX semi auto which hovers around $650 $700 depending where you live. I love this one so much I made a video review of it too!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsGflzPXvQU

I personally went through a bunch of shotguns until I figured out what I really wanted (comparing price and features) In the end just buy quality so you only have to buy once and hopefully the gun will out live you.

Just remember not all cheap or old shotguns are reliable even if its a big name. Inspect them and test them before they serve you and your family if they are old and used. Here is an example of a Police trade in of an 870 that malfunctioned on the gun salesman. You dont want this happening when your home is being invaded.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MadOgre#p/search/0/0XH71VJ5c_0

RedHaze
06-15-2010, 01:41
BudsGunShop - Home Defense Shotguns (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/37_871/page/1/sort/6a) - Take your pick.

If you want a 870 built for you, talk to JD.
AIPTactial (http://www.aiptactical.com/)

After having a 870 express, and selling it to fund other interests... I'm now back to wanting another 870. Probably one of the Talo editions...
http://precisionarmaments.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/870_TALO.247104829_std.jpg

mitchshrader
06-15-2010, 01:51
any sturdy 12 gauge that's fairly compact will do. Getting a 20" barrel allows choke tubes, with an 870.

NOT having a choke is just silly. There's no reason to do without it, and every reason to have it. Plain foster slugs work better through a modified choke, you might JUST want to shoot a turkey sometime, or a deer, or even quail. It is a matter of a few dollars to greatly expand the utility of the weapon.

Which weapon? Winchester 1300s work with aguila mini shells. Ithacas can be slam fired.
870s are the popular 'go to'. Mossberg 590A1 is mil-spec and sturdy as a brick church.

There isn't a BAD pump 12 gauge if it shoots and doesn't have a yard of barrel. Even clones are sufficiently reliable if the budget is tight enough, or old recycled riot guns with road rash..

Turn it around. How cheap and shabby does a 12 gauge have to be, before YOU will walk into it? Those aguila mini shells make a 7+1 a 9+1.....

NAS T MAG
06-15-2010, 04:10
This sits next to my chair in the TV room. Light, laser and Tamer grip. It's fun to shoot, too.
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/NAS-T-MAG/Mossberg500TacticalCruiser.jpg

vafish
06-15-2010, 05:47
I am looking for a good reliable tactical home defense shotgun, and hoping some of you guy can help me out. I want an 18" (12ga) barrel either pump or auto. My budget would be in the $300.00- $600.00 range. I do realize I am not going to find too many auto loaders in this price range but would like to. So a pump will be just fine. Would like it to be parkerized or a similar finish. Any of you guys have any ideas?

For just a few bucks more you could get a 19" Siaga.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_863/products_id/411536444

Although a plain Jane Mossberg 500, Remington 870, Benelli Nova, or Winchester 1300 would work just as well.

aippi
06-15-2010, 10:07
Remington 870 HD model # 25077. 18.5" barrel, bead sight, cly bore, Remington two shot LE extension, synthetic stocks. Around $350 most places depending where you live.

ScrappyDoo
06-15-2010, 18:53
Whatever you do, don't listen to mix! LANGUAGE VIOLATION EDIT


PSYCHE!! Actually he's dead on, not only did I also get those two same blacktikal boomsticks but his reviews/explanations were invaluable, and I still thank him.

And truth be told if I decide to ever get a Remington, I would definitely consider one of Mr. McGuire's hooked up ones.

But as they said, there's no reason to NOT get a cheap pump shotgun for simply HD... Most people here seem to buy expensive AR rifles and scoped rifles, etc... and also expensive handguns, and go simple/cheap on shotguns.

I went classic with a Glock handgun, fairly costly/very nice shotguns (which I am proud of), .22LR's for fun, and a fairly cheap (and brand new) "battle/bigboy" rifle.

Ass backwards, but then again thats the story of my life. :) Your Mileage May Vary, of course.

TECH51
06-15-2010, 19:27
Damm drugs will kill you......

GlockPride
06-15-2010, 20:34
870. Can't go wrong with that. +2 extension. Vang comp big head safety and follower and you're good to go.
I go mine done on a used action with the above for $150.

ScrappyDoo
06-15-2010, 20:56
Damm drugs will kill you......

You're sure right! You had certainly better lay off them! Perhaps consult your primary care physician for a more adequate and comprehensive evaluation of your medication? It appears they've ceased effectiveness or you've ceased proper consumption? Although I am told it can be the heat; that is, the increased temperature in the summer months leads to increased perspiration, which leads to medicine being excreted via sweat and therefore cessation of adequate and/or proper levels being maintained in the body...

You should see if that's your problems!

tnedator
06-15-2010, 21:06
Ok, I'm in the same market. I've been looking at the Mossberg 500 models. Was just debating between the cruiser type (no butt stock) or the SPX tactical, which has an adjustable butt, plus real sites. Not sure if it has or can use a choke (other than a 20 gauge I have had for years, I am pretty shotgun illiterate).

My primary purpose would be a self/home defense gun, but the reason I lean towards a model with a stock is so it can double as a hunting weapon (in a pinch/SHTF situation).

Difference between $300 and $600 isn't a deal breaker for me, so are their others that agree on the Benelli SuperNova Tactical? Let's say in the $400-700 range, what is the best all around tactical shotgun, which can do double duty for hunting if needed?

TECH51
06-15-2010, 22:14
No it's you............

Troy106
06-15-2010, 22:37
Remington 870 or mossberg 500 series.

This should be the most common, popular and correct answer.

ZTMIKE
06-15-2010, 22:40
USE A PM THIS IS NOT A SALE FORUM-moderator

sambeaux2249
06-15-2010, 22:55
My primary purpose would be a self/home defense gun, but the reason I lean towards a model with a stock is so it can double as a hunting weapon (in a pinch/SHTF situation).

Difference between $300 and $600 isn't a deal breaker for me, so are their others that agree on the Benelli SuperNova Tactical? Let's say in the $400-700 range, what is the best all around tactical shotgun, which can do double duty for hunting if needed?

I would recommend either a defense/hunting combo gun.... You can find these based on both the Mossberg 500 and the Remington 870... You probably don't want an extended magazine for that... In the case of the 870, you'd have issues with game wardens.. and in the case of the mossberg, there are no long barrels for the 8-shot model. There's also no long barrels for the Mossberg 590.

Even better, if you're willing to spend as much as $600... Buy TWO shotguns... One set up for defense, one set up for hunting. You won't have to worry about swapping barrels, or remembering to put in the magazine plug... You should be able to pick something up for ballpark $300 each... If not, spend $400 on one, and get a $200 Maverick or Pardner pump for the other.

Sam

tnedator
06-15-2010, 23:04
I would recommend either a defense/hunting combo gun.... You can find these based on both the Mossberg 500 and the Remington 870... You probably don't want an extended magazine for that... In the case of the 870, you'd have issues with game wardens.. and in the case of the mossberg, there are no long barrels for the 8-shot model. There's also no long barrels for the Mossberg 590.

Even better, if you're willing to spend as much as $600... Buy TWO shotguns... One set up for defense, one set up for hunting. You won't have to worry about swapping barrels, or remembering to put in the magazine plug... You should be able to pick something up for ballpark $300 each... If not, spend $400 on one, and get a $200 Maverick or Pardner pump for the other.

Sam

Sam, thanks for the info.

To clarify one thing, I don't hunt anymore. I did when I was young, now for a whole variety of reasons I don't, and don't plan to. I am looking for something for the primary purpose being self/home defense, but that could double as a hunting gun in the unlikely even of a real SHTF situation. If that occurred, game wardens wouldn't be an issue.

mixflip
06-16-2010, 02:00
what is the best all around tactical shotgun, which can do double duty for hunting if needed?

Both the Remington 870 and the Mossberg 500 easly fit the bill as a combo home defense and hinting shotgun since in essence they are basically built off of hunting guns in the first place. Tons of aftermarket options for both worlds for these 2 guns.

The Benelli SNT is a dedicated fighting shotgun so buying a separate hunting barrel with chokes will be harder (if not impossible) to find in any shop. Plus the barrel will cost just as much as a complete hunting 870 or 500.

Thunderbolt56
06-16-2010, 08:37
Saiga.

Any shotgun that isn't too long and is safe to fire can usually be employed in some type of HD role, but a 10+ round semi auto Saiga with a muzzle brake, folding stock and adjustable sights is waaay cool.

DaveFJ80
06-16-2010, 12:05
I had a new Mossberg Maverick 88 and that worked great. Samething as the 500 'combo' with 1-piece forend. Recently sold it for $150 w/Hogue forend & grips since I got a brand new 590 for free :supergrin:. I've also used to have Benelli SuperNova tactical shotgun that was for home defense.

The Benelli was a bit overkill for just HD (too expensive and actually too long to use effectively), and the 590 is great but is still a little long for my tastes (20" barrel.... I like an 18.5" barrel). The Maverick 88 shotgun I used to have was perfect and shot great. This would be my choice of a designated HD shotgun that doesn't cost too much, and is reliable and works everything you need it. Brand new they're $200 but you can find them used for $150 or less.

mixflip
06-16-2010, 13:19
It boils down to training. Soldiers are doing CQB/CQM (what ever the new wiz bang word is today) quite well with M4's rifles and Benelli M4 shotguns. They are not too long for indoor work. You just have to train to use what you have really. Clint Smith hammers this concept home ALOT!

sambeaux2249
06-22-2010, 21:45
Sam, thanks for the info.

To clarify one thing, I don't hunt anymore. I did when I was young, now for a whole variety of reasons I don't, and don't plan to. I am looking for something for the primary purpose being self/home defense, but that could double as a hunting gun in the unlikely even of a real SHTF situation. If that occurred, game wardens wouldn't be an issue.

Well... in the same vein... There are no hunting length barrels nor barrels with screw in chokes for the 8 shot persuader nor for the 590, although I've heard rumors that some other model of mossberg barrel may fit the 590? Maybe the 835 or 535? *shrugs* Ultimately, the choice is up to you. I'd still point at a Remington 870 or the 6 shot Mossberg 500.

Sam

DHart
06-23-2010, 04:48
I'm partial to Mossberg controls and lifter position. Bought it like this (around $250)

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/Shotguns%20and%20RIfles/Mossberg500A185.jpg

Shot it that way for a decade or so.... then finally realized that a shorter LOP and hardwood stock would feel so much better, shoulder snappier (without catching), and handle much quicker... so I recently ditched the black plastique furniture and went this route..... verrrrry sweet scattergun! Economical and great quality/reliability.

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/Shotguns%20and%20RIfles/500_Out_R.jpg

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/Shotguns%20and%20RIfles/500_Out_L.jpg

DHart
06-23-2010, 04:53
Or... for around $300 (or less!) go for a Winchester 1300 Defender. 18" barrel. Eight shot capacity. Incredible guns... often overlooked these days as they are not being made anymore. I love these two of mine:

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/Shotguns%20and%20RIfles/Win1300Pair.jpg

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/Shotguns%20and%20RIfles/W1300_R.jpg

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/Shotguns%20and%20RIfles/Win1300Birdshead.jpg

postman10mm
07-07-2010, 17:25
DHart, awesome looking weapons, where did you find the wood furniture for your Mossberg? I've never seen that sold.

JFrame
07-07-2010, 17:46
Or... for around $300 (or less!) go for a Winchester 1300 Defender. 18" barrel. Eight shot capacity. Incredible guns... often overlooked these days as they are not being made anymore. I love these two of mine:




Dick's had a couple of Winchester 1300 Marines on close-out for $269 a few months ago. I passed on them.

I are and idiot... http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/wacko.gif

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DHart
07-07-2010, 18:21
DHart, awesome looking weapons, where did you find the wood furniture for your Mossberg? I've never seen that sold.

Mossberg makes a Bantam wood stock which will fit a 12 ga. 500/590. I bought one from a private party and another from Mossberg directly.

As for the ribbed wood forearm, Mossberg no longer makes that, very unfortunately. However, you can find nice used ones from Vic at havlinsales.com. I've bought two of them from Vic and they're awesome! All you need to use one is a 7 5/8" action tube to fit the ribbed wood forearm onto. If you don't already have one of those on your gun, Vic sells those too.

I stripped the finish on the Bantam stocks and stained with MinWax Red Mahogany stain. Wonderful oil-finish result; looks great and feels great in the hand. I liked the guns with the synthetic furniture, but like them so very much more now!

Here's my 590 with hardwood furniture:

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/Shotguns%20and%20RIfles/590_Bantam3.jpg