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bac1023
06-17-2010, 18:47
I was looking at their site the other day and saw this nonsense.

http://nighthawktactical.com/FLX-Upgrade.html

Now, I don't mind 2011s, which are modular, double stack 1911 style pistols. However, I HATE double stack pistols that are trying to be passed off as true 1911s. Just looking at them makes me think "Para".

For Nighthawk to do this nonsense on their existing models is really poor, in my opinion. They don't even call them a different name. Its the same gun with the "FLX Upgrade". How ridiculously gimmicky does that sound? :shocked:

I'm sure they will sell well, but not to people like me.

Nighthawk builds a great semi custom gun, but this double stack option on their existing proven models turns my stomach. Its available on the Talon, Predator, and Dominator, which are more or less all the same pistol.

I'm glad it didn't do this to my favorite Nighthawk, the Enforcer. :upeyes:

Sorry Nighthawk, but I think this idea is in bad taste. At least come out with new models without contaminating your previously beautiful line of 1911s.

Thoughts?

glock2740
06-17-2010, 18:57
I saw that crap too. Not a fan here.

glock2740
06-17-2010, 19:00
This just isn't for me.
http://www.nighthawkcustom.com/

Quack
06-17-2010, 19:10
They are following Fonzie :rofl:

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/JumpTheShark.jpg

Trey83
06-17-2010, 19:11
I like the guns but I agree that it should have been a new design with new names.

Ruggles
06-17-2010, 19:22
They are in league with STI (clearly) on this, and nothing made it Texas is all bad. :) I would think if I were in the market for a double stack I might go this route as I would guess it would be more reliable than a "standard" double stack 1911. Not in the market for one either so I guess I will not find out for sure :)

BOGE
06-17-2010, 19:33
Double stack 1911`s are for the IPSC gamers and have no other real purpose in life other than that IMO. :whistling:

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
06-17-2010, 19:35
The 9mm version will compete with the new Wilson.

I wouldn't mind one in 9mm, personally.

22highcaps
06-17-2010, 19:49
That looks awesome. I wish I had the cash for one.

drc767
06-17-2010, 19:51
The 9mm version will compete with the new Wilson.

I wouldn't mind one in 9mm, personally.

It is not going to compete with the Spec Ops 9 as an all steel gun...

Quack
06-17-2010, 19:54
hmmm, i could get a FLX model and use my STI mags :)

Rinspeed
06-17-2010, 19:55
If you're going to spend that kind of coin on a double stack you would be a fool not to go with a proven company in that area such as STI or SVI.

Quack
06-17-2010, 19:56
It is not going to compete with the Spec Ops 9 as an all steel gun...

which is an all steel gun? The Spec Ops 9 is a polymer frame as well.

the FLX is a STI lower, which had a polymer grip frame and the dust cover back is steel.

bac1023
06-17-2010, 20:00
They are following Fonzie :rofl:

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/JumpTheShark.jpg

:rofl::rofl:

awpk03s
06-17-2010, 20:23
I'm not a fan at all of double stack 1911s. Can't imagine many people would buy one of these.

On a side note, only 12 more weeks until my Enforcer is done!

bac1023
06-17-2010, 20:25
I'm not a fan at all of double stack 1911s. Can't imagine many people would buy one of these.

On a side note, only 12 more weeks until my Enforcer is done!

Looking forward to the pics. :thumbsup:

drc767
06-17-2010, 20:49
which is an all steel gun? The Spec Ops 9 is a polymer frame as well.

the FLX is a STI lower, which had a polymer grip frame and the dust cover back is steel.

"The new FLX upgrade allows you to have all of the features of the aforementioned models, but in a high-capacity version. The frame itself is steel. Only the grip is made from a polymer material. This lightens the frame enough to help offset the additional weight of carrying the extra rounds."

I am assuming the weight is still that of a full sized single stack mag pistol. If that is the case, it is going to be heavier than the SO9 by a decent amount.

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
06-17-2010, 20:52
If you're going to spend that kind of coin on a double stack you would be a fool not to go with a proven company in that area such as STI or SVI.

Actually, until they are tuned by a place like Brazos Gun Works or Dawson Precision, those doublestack STIs often have a lot of problems. When you buy one from one of these two vendors, you should pay for their upgrade package for them to fluff and buff the gun. Sad that this needs to be done.

Quack
06-17-2010, 20:52
Gotcha

armslist
06-17-2010, 20:57
I'm not a fan of double stack 1911s either.

knedrgr
06-17-2010, 21:06
digging the T3 comp line though.

Quack
06-17-2010, 21:07
digging the t3 comp line though.

do it!!!

The_Drizzle
06-17-2010, 21:37
Double stack 1911`s are for the IPSC gamers and have no other real purpose in life other than that IMO. :whistling:

Thats what I was thinking.

Don Glock
06-17-2010, 21:55
nighthawk hasn't been the same since ron phillips left to go on his own. their quality control has been in the crapper.

MD357
06-17-2010, 22:38
I guess I'm gonna be the black sheep here...... first... IPSC gaming is fun. It's actually REALLY fun to mow through 14+ rounds of .45... instead of sitting at home and lovingly admiring them in the safe every night and wiping them off with a diaper.

For the most part, I dig the gun as I guess I'm one of the few 1911 gamers here. :cool: Ugly as they may be to some, these are fun to shoot if they are set up right. Nighthawk is going after the gamers, pretty smart move actually.

HAIL CAESAR
06-17-2010, 22:54
I guess I'm gonna be the black sheep here...... first... IPSC gaming is fun. It's actually REALLY fun to mow through 14+ rounds of .45... instead of sitting at home and lovingly admiring them in the safe every night and wiping them off with a diaper.

For the most part, I dig the gun as I guess I'm one of the few 1911 gamers here. :cool: Ugly as they may be to some, these are fun to shoot if they are set up right. Nighthawk is going after the gamers, pretty smart move actually.

I agree with them going after gamer's. I wonder if they will sell a lot of them?:dunno:

I neither like it, nor hate it. It ain't for me, but many fine folks like them and have a need for them....hence why they are made.

Don Glock
06-18-2010, 00:56
I agree with them going after gamer's. I wonder if they will sell a lot of them?:dunno:

I neither like it, nor hate it. It ain't for me, but many fine folks like them and have a need for them....hence why they are made.


like any business, it's all about the Benjamins. if it turns a profit, they will continue to offer them. if not, they won't.

remat
06-18-2010, 01:18
Oh, I was expecting something really wacky, but it looks pretty good. Kind of reminds me of the Wilson KZ's which were good shooters...

pistolwrench
06-18-2010, 02:13
Morris, Liebenburg, Yost/Burton, Rodgers, see any hi-caps?
Might be called a clue.

MD357
06-18-2010, 02:35
Morris, Liebenburg, Yost/Burton, Rodgers, see any hi-caps?
Might be called a clue.


Hey... I heard this guy is pretty good...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=174116560


Also... nobody here knows this guy I'm sure... but... I'll bet his name rings a bell to you. Dr. Greyson is pretty good I hear.

http://www.para-usa.com/new/downloads/reviews/CH03-07.pdf

What about yourself?

http://www.louderthanwords.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=7019&p=52202&hilit=Para#p52202

Sorry to bring in the reality but when people do work to a Para and I actually like it...... it sticks in my mind.... and hey guess what... I think it would be a blast to shoot any of these guns, including yours CHUCK. Call me crazy.


Just sayin.

bac1023
06-18-2010, 04:13
I guess I'm gonna be the black sheep here...... first... IPSC gaming is fun. It's actually REALLY fun to mow through 14+ rounds of .45... instead of sitting at home and lovingly admiring them in the safe every night and wiping them off with a diaper.

For the most part, I dig the gun as I guess I'm one of the few 1911 gamers here. :cool: Ugly as they may be to some, these are fun to shoot if they are set up right. Nighthawk is going after the gamers, pretty smart move actually.

No doubt it is fun, I just don't care for the way Nighthawk marketed them.

I'd much rather go SVI or STI for a 2011.

bac1023
06-18-2010, 04:15
Guys, I mentioned in the OP that I believe NH will sell them. I just don't like how they're going about it.

Russ424
06-18-2010, 04:31
There not for me either, However I generally don't like any double stack handgun 1911 or not. I realize you could probaly get hanged for saying this on a Glock forum but I prefer thin guns.

I quess we can all figure put what glock I own. G36's Rule :cool:

Monte#2
06-18-2010, 07:17
I'm not a fan at all of double stack 1911s. Can't imagine many people would buy one of these.



Ditto for me! If it is a 1911...it should be single stack...period.

HexHead
06-18-2010, 07:50
Polymer grip on a 1911? Blasphemy.

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
06-18-2010, 10:03
Thats what I was thinking.

I read a story a while back of a PD in CA that was using doublestack STIs in 38 super.

gconan
06-18-2010, 16:49
I'd much rather go SVI or STI for a 2011.

Aye! And SVI in particular.

bac1023
06-18-2010, 18:39
Aye! And SVI in particular.

Definitely.

They're the full custom route. You'll pay for it too. ;)

ronin.45
06-18-2010, 19:14
Actually, until they are tuned by a place like Brazos Gun Works or Dawson Precision, those doublestack STIs often have a lot of problems. When you buy one from one of these two vendors, you should pay for their upgrade package for them to fluff and buff the gun. Sad that this needs to be done.

All the IPSC/USPSA shooters that I know have terrible problems with STI race guns. Even after sending them away for several hundred dollars worth of "tuning". I realize that these guys are reloaders and that could have something to do with it, but it's too frequent and common among all of them. A gun that costs $3,000 that needs $500 worth of "tuning" and $1,000 worth of custom magazines that may also need sent for "tuning" and still has issues. Not my style. I would build a Glock open gun for half the money and just enjoy my hobby.

PhoneCop
06-18-2010, 19:39
I was looking at their site the other day and saw this nonsense.

http://nighthawktactical.com/FLX-Upgrade.html

Now, I don't mind 2011s, which are modular, double stack 1911 style pistols. However, I HATE double stack pistols that are trying to be passed off as true 1911s. Just looking at them makes me think "Para".

For Nighthawk to do this nonsense on their existing models is really poor, in my opinion. They don't even call them a different name. Its the same gun with the "FLX Upgrade". How ridiculously gimmicky does that sound? :shocked:

I'm sure they will sell well, but not to people like me.

Nighthawk builds a great semi custom gun, but this double stack option on their existing proven models turns my stomach. Its available on the Talon, Predator, and Dominator, which are more or less all the same pistol.

I'm glad it didn't do this to my favorite Nighthawk, the Enforcer. :upeyes:

Sorry Nighthawk, but I think this idea is in bad taste. At least come out with new models without contaminating your previously beautiful line of 1911s.

Thoughts?


I think that if they offered one in .40 with 20 rnd capacity they'd be a contender in the competive pistol market for USPSA Limited division.

I really like the idea of a 24 rnds of 9mm with a 1911 style single action trigger.

PhoneCop
06-18-2010, 19:43
I guess I'm gonna be the black sheep here...... first... IPSC gaming is fun. It's actually REALLY fun to mow through 14+ rounds of .45... instead of sitting at home and lovingly admiring them in the safe every night and wiping them off with a diaper.

For the most part, I dig the gun as I guess I'm one of the few 1911 gamers here. :cool: Ugly as they may be to some, these are fun to shoot if they are set up right. Nighthawk is going after the gamers, pretty smart move actually.


Not the only one. I'm sold out on Single Stack.

I'm considering a higher capacity .45 for Limited. Though then I'd be the blacksheep for shooting ONLY 14 rnd capacity instead of 20 +/-. The way I figure it is that I don't have to change my reloading set up at all and have a second division... and somplace between 1 - 16 there HAS to be a chance to reload. There just gots ta be.

PhoneCop
06-18-2010, 19:51
DUDE!!!

That's pretty sweet!

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z228/pistolwrench19/2-21.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z228/pistolwrench19/7-11.jpg

Cobra64
06-18-2010, 22:17
I was looking at their site the other day and saw this nonsense.

http://nighthawktactical.com/FLX-Upgrade.html

Now, I don't mind 2011s, which are modular, double stack 1911 style pistols. However, I HATE double stack pistols that are trying to be passed off as true 1911s. Just looking at them makes me think "Para".

For Nighthawk to do this nonsense on their existing models is really poor, in my opinion. They don't even call them a different name. Its the same gun with the "FLX Upgrade". How ridiculously gimmicky does that sound? :shocked:

I'm sure they will sell well, but not to people like me.

Nighthawk builds a great semi custom gun, but this double stack option on their existing proven models turns my stomach. Its available on the Talon, Predator, and Dominator, which are more or less all the same pistol.

I'm glad it didn't do this to my favorite Nighthawk, the Enforcer. :upeyes:

Sorry Nighthawk, but I think this idea is in bad taste. At least come out with new models without contaminating your previously beautiful line of 1911s.

Thoughts?

I never thought I'd see tac rails on 1911s, Porsche soccer-Mom SUVs. Waiting for Cadillac put a snow plow on the Escalade.

Nothing is sacred anymore....

Quack
06-18-2010, 22:24
I never thought I'd see tac rails on 1911s, Porsche soccer-Mom SUVs. Waiting for Cadillac put a snow plow on the Escalade.

Nothing is sacred anymore....

found some grips for you Cobra :whistling:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Colt-Kimber-Springfield-1911-COBRA-GRIPS-Smooth-PINKGLD_W0QQitemZ390006706945QQcategoryZ73944QQcmdZViewItem#vi-content

Cobra64
06-18-2010, 22:36
found some grips for you Cobra :whistling:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Colt-Kimber-Springfield-1911-COBRA-GRIPS-Smooth-PINKGLD_W0QQitemZ390006706945QQcategoryZ73944QQcmdZViewItem#vi-content

Not my style; more suited to the Penguin.

My Cobra is an FIA, has a 289, Compomotive wheels, Dunlop racing tires, Brembo brakes, and side pipes. :supergrin:

Panzergrenadier1979
06-18-2010, 22:50
I was looking at their site the other day and saw this nonsense.

http://nighthawktactical.com/FLX-Upgrade.html

Now, I don't mind 2011s, which are modular, double stack 1911 style pistols. However, I HATE double stack pistols that are trying to be passed off as true 1911s. Just looking at them makes me think "Para".

For Nighthawk to do this nonsense on their existing models is really poor, in my opinion. They don't even call them a different name. Its the same gun with the "FLX Upgrade". How ridiculously gimmicky does that sound? :shocked:

I'm sure they will sell well, but not to people like me.

Nighthawk builds a great semi custom gun, but this double stack option on their existing proven models turns my stomach. Its available on the Talon, Predator, and Dominator, which are more or less all the same pistol.

I'm glad it didn't do this to my favorite Nighthawk, the Enforcer. :upeyes:

Sorry Nighthawk, but I think this idea is in bad taste. At least come out with new models without contaminating your previously beautiful line of 1911s.

Thoughts?

Honest question here....If you sit back and read this, don't you think that this sound very.....elitist? :dunno:

A 1911 is a tool, and if the owner wishes to have all the bells & whistles of a particular 1911 and have it available in double-stack, isn't that their choice? Think about it; a "true" 1911 was originally very different than the modern $2,000 "tactical" 1911 of today. Are any of the improvements available today (night sights, flared ejector port, polished feed ramp, beaver-tail grip safeties...etc.) in bad taste? No, they're not. They are minor improvements to a well-proven design. My 1911 is in 10mm, does this disqualify it from "true 1911" status? It has a pony on the side, does that improve my chances?

I am bothered by the fact that if I show up to the range and put all my rounds center-mass using safe and proven techniques, I'll still have some know-it-all observing me and thinking how "wrong" I am because he doesn't approve of my weapon, my stance, my ammo, or the color of my pants. Gun snobbery is really causing me to disassociate myself from other gun enthusiasts....sad.

Cobra64
06-18-2010, 23:07
Honest question here....If you sit back and read this, don't you think that this sound very.....elitist? :dunno:

A 1911 is a tool, and if the owner wishes to have all the bells & whistles of a particular 1911 and have it available in double-stack, isn't that their choice? Think about it; a "true" 1911 was originally very different than the modern $2,000 "tactical" 1911 of today. Are any of the improvements available today (night sights, flared ejector port, polished feed ramp, beaver-tail grip safeties...etc.) in bad taste? No, they're not. They are minor improvements to a well-proven design. My 1911 is in 10mm, does this disqualify it from "true 1911" status? It has a pony on the side, does that improve my chances?

I am bothered by the fact that if I show up to the range and put all my rounds center-mass using safe and proven techniques, I'll still have some know-it-all observing me and thinking how "wrong" I am because he doesn't approve of my weapon, my stance, my ammo, or the color of my pants. Gun snobbery is really causing me to disassociate myself from other gun enthusiasts....sad.

:dunno:

MD357
06-18-2010, 23:08
I never thought I'd see tac rails on 1911s...

I know, it's horrible that people actually use their 1911s in home defense. :supergrin:

Cobra64
06-18-2010, 23:16
I know, it's horrible that people actually use their 1911s in home defense. :supergrin:

I knew I shouldda put skid pans and a brush guard on on my Corvette when I go four-wheeling.

glock2740
06-18-2010, 23:23
DUDE!!!

That's pretty sweet!

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z228/pistolwrench19/2-21.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z228/pistolwrench19/7-11.jpg
That gun screams Chuck Rogers.

MD357
06-18-2010, 23:55
I knew I shouldda put skid pans and a brush guard on on my Corvette when I go four-wheeling.

some would do well just to get the vette out of the garage.... :cool:

bac1023
06-19-2010, 00:10
some would do well just to get the vette out of the garage.... :cool:


Vette? I don't want a Vette. :whistling:


Yeah, I haven't had my Lotus out of the garage in a while, now that you mention it. :dunno:


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_0200bg.jpg



:rofl:








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bac1023
06-19-2010, 00:13
Honest question here....If you sit back and read this, don't you think that this sound very.....elitist? :dunno:

A 1911 is a tool, and if the owner wishes to have all the bells & whistles of a particular 1911 and have it available in double-stack, isn't that their choice? Think about it; a "true" 1911 was originally very different than the modern $2,000 "tactical" 1911 of today. Are any of the improvements available today (night sights, flared ejector port, polished feed ramp, beaver-tail grip safeties...etc.) in bad taste? No, they're not. They are minor improvements to a well-proven design. My 1911 is in 10mm, does this disqualify it from "true 1911" status? It has a pony on the side, does that improve my chances?

I am bothered by the fact that if I show up to the range and put all my rounds center-mass using safe and proven techniques, I'll still have some know-it-all observing me and thinking how "wrong" I am because he doesn't approve of my weapon, my stance, my ammo, or the color of my pants. Gun snobbery is really causing me to disassociate myself from other gun enthusiasts....sad.


Of course its elitist. Do you have a problem with it? :dunno:

Maybe you should "disassociate" yourself from the 1911 forum here. :wavey:





...I have no problem with a company trying to make money. All I said is that I didn't like the way NH was going about their marketing. Its called an opinion.











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bac1023
06-19-2010, 00:32
I knew I shouldda put skid pans and a brush guard on on my Corvette when I go four-wheeling.

:rofl::rofl:

bac1023
06-19-2010, 00:33
I never thought I'd see tac rails on 1911s, Porsche soccer-Mom SUVs. Waiting for Cadillac put a snow plow on the Escalade.

Nothing is sacred anymore....

:rofl:

Don't worry, my friend.

You'll never see one at my house. :wavey:

bac1023
06-19-2010, 00:34
I know, it's horrible that people actually use their 1911s in home defense. :supergrin:



...some use revolvers for HD. :cool:

Panzergrenadier1979
06-19-2010, 00:56
Of course its elitist. Do you have a problem with it? :dunno:
Of course I do, I wrote it down didn't I? :dunno:

Maybe you should "disassociate" yourself from the 1911 forum here. :wavey:
Naw, I'll stay.

...I have no problem with a company trying to make money. All I said is that I didn't like the way NH was going about their marketing. Its called an opinion.

You sounded outraged that any would DARE commit such a despicable act.

Like I said, I hate going to the range and feeling like I'm violating someone's gospel because I have a Glock, or a 1911 that's not .45 ACP, or that I have a thumb over thumb grip.....etc. The holes in my targets are very close to each other and right where I aim but that doesn't seem to be all that important to some people out there.

But that's just my opinion.











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bac1023
06-19-2010, 01:01
Of course I do, I wrote it down didn't I? :dunno:


Naw, I'll stay.



You sounded outraged that any would DARE commit such a despicable act.

Like I said, I hate going to the range and feeling like I'm violating someone's gospel because I have a Glock, or a 1911 that's not .45 ACP, or that I have a thumb over thumb grip.....etc. The holes in my targets are very close to each other and right where I aim but that doesn't seem to be all that important to some people out there.

But that's just my opinion.




:panties:

:animlol:


I was kidding about the elitist part. The thread is opinionated for sure, but that's me. If you don't share my opinion on Nighthawk's marketing, fine, but many do.





We're from the same state. Maybe we could go shootin' some time.

Bring whatever you want and shoot however you want, because I really don't give a damn.

I've got Glocks too, by the way. :wavey:





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MD357
06-19-2010, 01:07
Vette? I don't want a Vette. :whistling:


Yeah, I haven't had my Lotus out of the garage in a while, now that you mention it. :dunno:


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_0200bg.jpg



:rofl:








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Well get out and drive it like you stole it..... from yourself. :cool:

Very NICE btw.

bac1023
06-19-2010, 01:09
Well get out and drive it like you stole it..... from yourself. :cool:

Very NICE btw.


Thanks MD.

I drove it a lot in year's past. It needs a slave cylinder and I've been too damn lazy to fix it, honestly. :embarassed:

Maybe I should get a Vette, now that I think about it. ;)

MD357
06-19-2010, 01:22
...some use revolvers for HD. :cool:

Yeah, we need to fix that.

bac1023
06-19-2010, 04:42
Yeah, we need to fix that.



:rofl:

bac1023
06-19-2010, 04:51
MD, do you like revolvers? :dunno:

I, obviously, do, but I know many people here do not.

Just curious...Thanks

drc767
06-19-2010, 07:04
Vette? I don't want a Vette. :whistling:


Yeah, I haven't had my Lotus out of the garage in a while, now that you mention it. :dunno:rofl:.

Ok Brian.....you started this! I have been thinking about adding brush guards and curb feelers to my 45 year old girl. :)

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg290/drc767/IMG_2193.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg290/drc767/IMG_2209.jpg

GJ1981
06-19-2010, 07:58
I know, it's horrible that people actually use their 1911s in home defense. :supergrin:

I thought 1911's were used for photo ops only :dunno::supergrin:

Using one for HD is just crazy, an intruder would chastise me for destroying the classic lines with a rail.

Oh well, I guess I'll take that chance...



http://i38.tinypic.com/5peonr.jpg

MD357
06-19-2010, 10:26
MD, do you like revolvers? :dunno:

I, obviously, do, but I know many people here do not.

Just curious...Thanks


I really like them to be quite honest, I just don't shoot them well relative to 1911s or any of my polymer guns. I sold a S&W 66-2 and a GP100 earlier this year that I really miss, but they never seemed to find their way into the range bag. IMHO there's nothing more classice than a blued S&W or Colt, they just aren't practical for me.

MD357
06-19-2010, 10:27
I thought 1911's were used for photo ops only :dunno::supergrin:

Using one for HD is just crazy, an intruder would chastise me for destroying the classic lines with a rail.

Oh well, I guess I'll take that chance...



http://i38.tinypic.com/5peonr.jpg

:gasp: that's like going offroading with a vette!!! :faint:








I love it. :cool:

Cerebrus
06-19-2010, 10:47
I like wheel guns as well.. wish I had more but with my blackhawk its like having three guns in one.. .45 acp, .45 long-colt, and .45 Winchester mag.. I just wish it had a 6" barrel rather than the 4 5/8".. still its fun as hell to shoot

willowofwisp
06-19-2010, 11:23
I believe that Chris and Travis from Magpul Dynamics are running the new nighthawk double stack 1911's at least it looks like it in this pic

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4682730127_aaa568484a_b.jpg

notice the magazine appears to be a double stack.

HAIL CAESAR
06-19-2010, 13:16
I thought 1911's were used for photo ops only :dunno::supergrin:

Using one for HD is just crazy, an intruder would chastise me for destroying the classic lines with a rail.

Oh well, I guess I'll take that chance...



http://i38.tinypic.com/5peonr.jpg

LEO are also blasphemers for ruining the classic lines of a 1911 with something as stupid as a light. I wish I would have just used Ducktape to secure a light instead of ruining a tool......oh, I meant a fine collector-pic poster.

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/hailcaesar_photos/_JBP1541.jpg

HAIL CAESAR
06-19-2010, 13:18
S&W has a revolver with a rail for actual users too.

willowofwisp
06-19-2010, 13:35
S&W has a revolver with a rail for actual users too.

my buddy has one...the R8 or something? he carries it loaded with 8 rounds of .357 magnum and a surefire x300 all inside a raven holster..thing is a beast and blast to shoot.

Your premiere II is my idol...i want that rear sight so bad but then i know i'm am prob gonna have to change the front sight which will suck

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j255/lazyboymsu/shooting/061110%20IDPA/DSC_3874.jpg

remat
06-19-2010, 13:55
Guys, I mentioned in the OP that I believe NH will sell them. I just don't like how they're going about it.

I agree. I have actually always objected to their marketing and policies.

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 13:58
Vette? I don't want a Vette. :whistling:


Yeah, I haven't had my Lotus out of the garage in a while, now that you mention it. :dunno:
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_0200bg.jpg

:rofl:
Still?

HAIL CAESAR
06-19-2010, 14:01
my buddy has one...the R8 or something? he carries it loaded with 8 rounds of .357 magnum and a surefire x300 all inside a raven holster..thing is a beast and blast to shoot.

Your premiere II is my idol...i want that rear sight so bad but then i know i'm am prob gonna have to change the front sight which will suck

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j255/lazyboymsu/shooting/061110%20IDPA/DSC_3874.jpg

Just change the rear and see where you are on paper. I (think) mine was POA/POI. But if yours ain't the front is easy to change and you might want a NS front. If you live close enough I'll change it out for ya.

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 14:03
Like I said, I hate going to the range and feeling like I'm violating someone's gospel because I have a Glock...


It's better than violating your little sister. :rofl:

RonS
06-19-2010, 14:07
To quote my college age daughter. "Meh"

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 14:07
Thanks MD.

I drove it a lot in year's past. It needs a slave cylinder and I've been too damn lazy to fix it, honestly. :embarassed:

Maybe I should get a Vette, now that I think about it. ;)

Keep the Lotus. Vettes are a bargain and I wish I'd kept mine (children are expensive) but there are few Lotii that are worth owning, and you have one.

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 14:08
Ok Brian.....you started this! I have been thinking about adding brush guards and curb feelers to my 45 year old girl. :)

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg290/drc767/IMG_2193.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg290/drc767/IMG_2209.jpg

Dang that's pretty! 327?

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 14:13
:gasp: that's like going offroading with a vette!!! :faint:

I love it. :cool:

Yeah, epic fail. :wow:

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/images/content/072707_4.jpg


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Rinspeed
06-19-2010, 14:15
Dang that's pretty! 327?



I doubt it seeing the valve covers say 350 on them. :upeyes: :tongueout:

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 14:20
LEO are also blasphemers for ruining the classic lines of a 1911 with something as stupid as a light. I wish I would have just used Ducktape to secure a light instead of ruining a tool......oh, I meant a fine collector-pic poster.


You talked me into it.

I'm putting a Kabar on my Taurus.

http://www.laserlyte.com/Pistol_Bayonet/PB-1/images/PB1-0ss.jpg

(Cobra ducking from Bac...) :couch:

drc767
06-19-2010, 14:20
I doubt it seeing the valve covers say 350 on them. :upeyes: :tongueout:

Nope.....It is a 327. Those stickers on the valve covers say 350 Horsepower. It is a 327 cubic inch/350hp 4-Speed car. Single 4-Barrel (2818 Holley), Aluminum Intake, and hydraulic cam. The 365 hp option was the same with the difference being a solid cam, and the 375 version was the Fuel Injected 327 which are worth a bunch these days, but are nearly impossible to keep running worth a damn.

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 14:23
I doubt it seeing the valve covers say 350 on them. :upeyes: :tongueout:

Mine just show Cobra. :supergrin:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cars/Engine.jpg



The thing is so fast, the doors flew off.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cars/DCP00029.jpg

drc767
06-19-2010, 14:24
Yeah, epic fail. :wow:

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/images/content/072707_4.jpg


.

Oh lord......I think I just threw up in my mouth......:)

drc767
06-19-2010, 14:27
Mine just show Cobra. :supergrin:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cars/Engine.jpg


*****And the disclaimer....."Powered by Ford"***** :)

Hokie1911
06-19-2010, 14:34
Yeah, epic fail. :wow:

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/images/content/072707_4.jpg


.

http://www.failimages.com/jokepics/4-3a066hellovaderpt5-1.jpg

Hokie1911
06-19-2010, 14:36
:weirdthread:

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 14:41
Oh lord......I think I just threw up in my mouth......:)

Me too brother. I'm a gear head also, and loved most of the 60s gen sports and muscle cars.

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 14:49
*****And the disclaimer....."Powered by Ford"***** :)

Yeah, I know. But since Shelby seemd to like FoMoCo V-8s in his ACs...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cars/CobraPRR3.jpg[/img]

... I wasn't going with MoPar or Chevy power.

drc767
06-19-2010, 14:52
Yeah, I know. But since Shelby seemd to like FoMoCo V-8s in his ACs...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cars/CobraPRR3.jpg[/img]

... I wasn't going with MoPar or Chevy power.

I hear ya, Cobra....If I owned a Cobra (original or otherwise), it would have what Mr. Shelby intended sitting under the hood.....No question about it!

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 14:53
:weirdthread:

I don't remember. Something about tac rails and Obama cars?

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cars/73_Hogan_Corvarado203.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cars/PresidentialLimo.jpg



.

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 14:58
I hear ya, Cobra....If I owned a Cobra (Original or Otherwise), it would have what Mr. Shelby intended sitting under the hood.....No question about it!

I built mine as true to original FIA form as possible, even down to that particular paint scheme color and stripe dimensions across the nose (even though that particular AC was totalled in a crash, can't remember the race).

bac1023
06-19-2010, 16:55
Ok Brian.....you started this! I have been thinking about adding brush guards and curb feelers to my 45 year old girl. :)

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg290/drc767/IMG_2193.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg290/drc767/IMG_2209.jpg

That is one beautiful car, Dave.

I do like Corvettes, by the way. :supergrin:

bac1023
06-19-2010, 16:55
I don't remember. Something about tac rails and Obama cars?

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cars/73_Hogan_Corvarado203.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cars/PresidentialLimo.jpg



.



:rofl::rofl:

bac1023
06-19-2010, 16:57
I thought 1911's were used for photo ops only :dunno::supergrin:

Using one for HD is just crazy, an intruder would chastise me for destroying the classic lines with a rail.

Oh well, I guess I'll take that chance...



http://i38.tinypic.com/5peonr.jpg

:rofl:

Springfield Custom builds fantastic 1911s, with or without a rail. :thumbsup:


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/010-2.jpg

bac1023
06-19-2010, 17:02
I really like them to be quite honest, I just don't shoot them well relative to 1911s or any of my polymer guns. I sold a S&W 66-2 and a GP100 earlier this year that I really miss, but they never seemed to find their way into the range bag. IMHO there's nothing more classice than a blued S&W or Colt, they just aren't practical for me.



Makes sense. I'm not an overly good shot with most revolvers, though I do love shooting Colt Pythons.

I find them extremely accurate. :wow:

bac1023
06-19-2010, 17:03
Keep the Lotus. Vettes are a bargain and I wish I'd kept mine (children are expensive) but there are few Lotii that are worth owning, and you have one.

Thanks Cobra!

Glad you got to see it last time you were up.

Its a shame it was in the garage. :crying:

bac1023
06-19-2010, 17:05
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j255/lazyboymsu/shooting/061110%20IDPA/DSC_3874.jpg


That is a beautiful 1911. :hearts:

bac1023
06-19-2010, 17:06
Still?

Yeah Cobra.

I just can't get myself to fork out money on that thing right now. :sigh:

bac1023
06-19-2010, 17:14
LEO are also blasphemers for ruining the classic lines of a 1911 with something as stupid as a light. I wish I would have just used Ducktape to secure a light instead of ruining a tool......oh, I meant a fine collector-pic poster.

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/hailcaesar_photos/_JBP1541.jpg



Actually, Al, as I said before, I like the Baer of yours quite a bit.

I don't think a rail ruins a 1911's looks. I think it ruins the classic looks of it. that doesn't mean 1911s with rails aren't still great looking guns.

I just have no need, so, therefore, they aren't for me.

I'm happy using my SRH Alaskan for HD. I've been using a revolver for HD for as long as I can remember.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/000_2189.jpg


I keep it loaded with 45 Colt Blazers. :)

MD357
06-19-2010, 17:22
I'd bet money you shoot a 1911 better than that huge revolver and I'll guarantee you would be more accurate with follow up shots with a 1911. Size doesn't matter if you miss.

Just sayin....

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 17:25
That is one beautiful car, Dave.

I do like Corvettes, by the way. :supergrin:

You should. :supergrin: They are well built, bullet tough, and fun to dive.

Mine was a new white 1991. All I did was drive it, fill it with high octane fuel, and have it serviced at regular intervals. It had 88k on the clock when I sold it 5 years later. Other than a few old '60s cars, it's the only car I regret selling.


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cars/CORVETTE-1991.jpg



It was my weekly round trip ride from upstate NY to Reading, PA for 9 months. I told you I spent more time in PA than many residents. :rofl:

bac1023
06-19-2010, 17:33
I'd bet money you shoot a 1911 better than that huge revolver and I'll guarantee you would be more accurate with follow up shots with a 1911. Size doesn't matter if you miss.

Just sayin....



I hear you and maybe so.

However, the recoil of 45 Colt Blazers in a 44oz revolver is very light. I find that revolver comfortable and accurate.

Power wise, the round is about the equal to 45ACP. Its not hot 45 Colt, and certainly not even close to 454 Casull. :)

bac1023
06-19-2010, 17:36
You should. :supergrin: They are well built, bullet tough, and fun to dive.

Mine was a new white 1991. All I did was drive it, fill it with high octane fuel, and have it serviced at regular intervals. It had 88k on the clock when I sold it 5 years later. Other than a few old '60s cars, it's the only car I regret selling.


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cars/CORVETTE-1991.jpg



It was my weekly round trip ride from upstate NY to Reading, PA for 9 months. I told you I spent more time in PA than many residents. :rofl:

Very nice Cobra. I do remember you telling me you had one of them. I never did, but have driven a couple. I did own a few different Porsches in my younger days, notably a 944 Turbo S and 928 S4. Cool German cars. :cool:

GJ1981
06-19-2010, 18:16
:rofl:

Springfield Custom builds fantastic 1911s, with or without a rail. :thumbsup:


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/010-2.jpg

Exactly why I am considering another build from them. They are just hard to beat for the money, IMO.




:supergrin:

<a href="http://tinypic.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i46.tinypic.com/1118rde.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>

Trey83
06-19-2010, 18:38
I knew I shouldda put skid pans and a brush guard on on my Corvette when I go four-wheeling.
You don't need skid pans and a brush guard!

that's like going offroading with a vette!!!
like this? :tongueout:
http://www.jtruck.net/misc/4x4cars/full/RedCorvette.jpg

drc767
06-19-2010, 18:50
You don't need skid pans and a brush guard!


like this? :tongueout:
http://www.jtruck.net/misc/4x4cars/full/RedCorvette.jpg

That is just wrong on so many levels......

bac1023
06-19-2010, 18:51
Exactly why I am considering another build from them. They are just hard to beat for the money, IMO.




Well, they aren't exactly cheap, but they still are a good value. :)

willowofwisp
06-19-2010, 19:38
Thanks for the compliment on my Baer Bac

bac1023
06-19-2010, 19:53
Thanks for the compliment on my Baer Bac

Sure :)

Cobra64
06-19-2010, 21:06
Yeah Cobra.

I just can't get myself to fork out money on that thing right now. :sigh:

Ya gots to do it before the tires go flat! :supergrin:

Quack
06-19-2010, 21:47
Exactly why I am considering another build from them. They are just hard to beat for the money, IMO.
:supergrin:

<a href="http://tinypic.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i46.tinypic.com/1118rde.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>


looks like what i would have done :supergrin:

here's my cheapo Custom Shopped TRP

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_2238.jpg

bac1023
06-19-2010, 23:24
Ya gots to do it before the tires go flat! :supergrin:

:animlol:

PhoneCop
06-19-2010, 23:26
Exactly why I am considering another build from them. They are just hard to beat for the money, IMO.




:supergrin:

<a href="http://tinypic.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i46.tinypic.com/1118rde.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>

That's damn fine looking.

GJ1981
06-20-2010, 08:04
looks like what i would have done :supergrin:

here's my cheapo Custom Shopped TRP

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_2238.jpg

I have to say I was apprehensive of the flat trigger at first but it is quickly growing on me. I may switch to them for all my 1911's, or at least the ones I carry.

I think your TRP is sweet, I actually don't mind that style of FCS's for some reason.




That's damn fine looking.


Thanks, I feel bad that I haven't had it at the range in close to a month. It doesn't have enough holster wear for my taste yet, but hopefully when works slows down I can fix that problem.

Quack
06-20-2010, 08:50
Thanks!!!

I'll trade you :animlol:

glock2740
06-20-2010, 09:01
Morris, Liebenburg, Yost/Burton, Rodgers, see any hi-caps?
Might be called a clue.
:rofl:The man has a point. :supergrin:

HAIL CAESAR
06-20-2010, 09:46
:rofl:The man has a point. :supergrin:

I bet everyone has done one, and would do another if you paid them. Usually the guys that want hi-caps either want them for bed guns, LEO, or gamers. Most don't care about how it looks, only function. A LEO or a Gamer has a different set of priorities than a collector. If they have a extra 7 to 10 grand they wouldn't spend it on a pistol with seamless blending, whizzbang machining, and curb feelers.




There are custom guys that specialize in hi-caps and getting them to run, and that is were the "Hi-Cap'ers" usually send their guns.

bac1023
06-20-2010, 13:26
A LEO or a Gamer has a different set of priorities than a collector. If they have a extra 7 to 10 grand they wouldn't spend it on a pistol with seamless blending, whizzbang machining, and curb feelers.


No doubt. Like I've always said, I'm a collector. :)

That said, I certainly see the draw to the hi-cap 1911 or 2011. I don't blame NH for getting into the game, I just think they should have gone about it differently. :dunno:

Of course, who am I to judge? Its only an opinion. :embarassed:

willowofwisp
06-20-2010, 14:25
I saw this infinity hi cap 9mm 1911 on another forum...i want so bad LOL

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z6/willowofwisp/infinity.jpg

put a surefire x300 on it and a tritium front and i would carry that thing anyday

PhoneCop
07-02-2010, 12:33
Thanks, I feel bad that I haven't had it at the range in close to a month. It doesn't have enough holster wear for my taste yet, but hopefully when works slows down I can fix that problem.

I have the same grips on my Kimber. I like the way they look on your all black model.

I need to get a higher quality picture of it with the VZs to post- the camera on my Blackberry doesn't cut it.

BlayGlock
07-02-2010, 13:04
I like revolvers. I used my TRR8 for hog hunting at night. The rail was very useful for putting a light on it so I could see the suckers. You could also just remove the rail by taking out the screws. A very good design. I think it was designed originally for the SWAT guy who holds the shield when they breach.

http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv239/BlayGlock/SWHarem2.jpg