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06-18-2010, 07:44
I never thought I would ever see one of these.



06-18-2010, 09:31
Not a production gun, but a real DA 1911: The Seecamp Conversion

06-18-2010, 09:50
The best thing about the 1911 is the trigger, nobody to this day can reproduce it. No thanks.

06-18-2010, 16:14
It "looks" like it will be fairly nice in regards to ergonomics. I am happy to see Colt branding out a little. Time will tell but it looks like it has possibilities.

06-18-2010, 16:43
The DAO 1911's I have ever seen were the Para's.


06-18-2010, 16:49
Colt's saying Third Quarter on the DAOs, should be coming out in a week or nine.

06-18-2010, 17:08
Here is one of the original Colt DA guns based on the 1911, the Double Eagle. Note that most of the upper is pure Colt 1911 and that the magazines are standard 1911s. Lots of easy ways to modify these as long as it is the upper. The lower is a different story, but the SA trigger is surprisingly good, and the decocker is quite functional.



06-18-2010, 17:40
Yeah, they tried it before with the Double Eagle. And that was basically a commercial failure for them. We'll see. Personally, I'd rather see them double down on QC on the existing line rather than going down this road again. But maybe they can make it work this time.

06-18-2010, 17:52
Yes, the Double Eagle never really sold. Funny thing is I think is was the lack of marketing as I had never heard of the pistol back when it was being made. Colt was pushing the Delta Elite in 1992 but never marketed the Double Eagle. I lucked into mine many years after production had ended.

I heard that an article by Massad Ayoob that described an issue where pulling the trigger could result in a click kinda derailed the gun. I also read Dean Speir's disastrous experience with a 10mm Double Eagle where Colt basically screwed up again and again.

The gun itself though is a keeper, and I like mine enough to have ordered VZ grips and Milt Sparks leather for it. It came with the serrated front strap and the checkered trigger guard that reminds me of the Beretta 92F. The metal finish is darn good and much better than the current Colt polishing. My sample is scary accurate with the factory barrel and bushing. While the SA trigger is not a 1911 trigger, it is far better than any other DA/SA gun I have tried. The decocker is nice, especially for a duty holster gun. This gun makes a lot of sense for a police officer who likes the 1911 but whose agency is afraid of "cocked and locked".

Other than the action, the gun is pure 1911, down to the Browning swinging link and it uses 1911 magazines. Lots of the parts interchange with the Colt 1911, so it can be easily customized. The gun has a forged stainless steel frame and slide, so it recoils a lot less than the original SIG Sauer P220 American. The P220 grips feel much like the factory Double Eagle grips, but the Double Eagle grips are derided. It also feels better in my hands than the P220. Funny that SIG ended up with a "classic" and the Colt ended up in the dust bin.

06-18-2010, 18:15
The new DAOs are not based on the Double Eagle.

06-18-2010, 19:04
The new DAOs are not based on the Double Eagle.

Could the new design be close to the Para's LDA system?


06-18-2010, 19:23
Not a production gun, but a real DA 1911: The Seecamp Conversion

For some reason, I've always loved the Seecamp conversions. I'd really like to see a Seecamp-converted CCO-style pistol!

06-18-2010, 19:27
I'm told it's nothing like the Para.

Edited to say- Lemme change that. I've fired a Para & I've handled the two Colt DAOs, not the same in trigger operation & while I didn't look inside the Colts, I'm told by Colt the guts are nothing like the Paras.

06-18-2010, 20:07
I handled and dry fired the new Colt DA autos at the SHOT Show in January. It feels like a 1911 without a beavertail. I guess without a spur hammer they thought it wasn't necessary, but I didn't like the feel. The trigger is smooth, but is a true DA so it's heavy. It also stacked a bit at the end, kinda like their revolvers typically do. I didn't hate it, but it didn't make me want to write them a check either. I don't see the point. My prediction is an even bigger flop than the Double Eagle.

06-18-2010, 21:41
Colt just needs to focus on producing high quality, traditional 1911s. They shouldn't piss around with this "DAO" crap. Maybe take a series 70' and upgrade it to an enhanced design with checkering and an upswept grip safety with modern sights.