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JRB75
06-21-2010, 10:31
So I was planning on sending my EMP to Wilson for some custom work however it seems they will not work on the EMP. So it looks like I will be using the Springfield Custom Shop. Can anyone answer any of the following questions.

1. The don't list a round "butt" option on there work order, anyone know if this is an option.

2. I would also like to have the barrel deep crowned but didn't see that as an option either.

3. Will the install user supplied parts? IE, thumb safeties, Triggers, ect.?

Thanks in advance for any info that you can provide.

Quack
06-21-2010, 10:41
So I was planning on sending my EMP to Wilson for some custom work however it seems they will not work on the EMP. So it looks like I will be using the Springfield Custom Shop. Can anyone answer any of the following questions.

1. The don't list a round "butt" option on there work order, anyone know if this is an option. IIRC, someone on the 1911.com forum asked and they said no.

2. I would also like to have the barrel deep crowned but didn't see that as an option either. not sure either.

3. Will the install user supplied parts? IE, thumb safeties, Triggers, ect.?
yes

Thanks in advance for any info that you can provide.

best thing to do is call the Custom Shop.
There are other shops out there that can work on the EMP as well.

JRB75
06-21-2010, 11:36
Thanks for the information Quack. I have an email into the custom shop however I may just give them a call. Wilson recommended a Ozark Outpost to perform the work however I have not heard of them before. There are alot of good smiths out there, I just don't want to wait the 8 months required to get the work done..:whistling:

I really like the EMP and feel it would make a great base for a custom carry pistol. My only other option would be to sell it and take the money I was going to put into the custom work and my something like a CQB compact in 9mm. However that just isn't that original...

Here is the work that I am looking at getting done.

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Serrate Rear of Slide 40 LPI
Serrate Slide Top 30 LPI
Round Butt
Tactical Bullet Proof thumb safety from Wilson
Deep crown Barrel
Bullet Proof slide stop, Chamfered/recessed
10-8 rear sight
Short Trigger
Hard Chrome frame and small parts, Black T Slide

Quack
06-21-2010, 11:45
Contact Ray Saltzman of Saltzman Gunworks, Inc.
He's in Indiana. He did a EMP pretty close to what you want to have done.

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=244293
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/greenst/EMP1.jpg

This is what was done to the EMP above:
Carry bevel (especially the bottom edges of the slide which were quite sharp)
High cut front strap
Replace ILS MSH with Ed Brown unit, serrate and round off
Serrate front strap
Contour grip safety to accomodate small hands
Install 10-8 rear sight
Shorten already installed 10-8 trigger by .10" and tune trigger
Tune extractor and replacement extractor
Install EGW oversized firing pin stop (the extractor was clocking with OE fp stop)
Fit Wilson Bullet Proof magazine release
Replace torx grip scews with the flat head variety

NOTE: teh slide stop was supposed to be NP3'd, but didn't make it out when the rest of it was getting re-finished.

Quack
06-21-2010, 11:48
Saltzman Gun Works
765-675-2040
3896 South 400 West
Tipton, IN 46072
sgwi@tds.net
sgwi@tds.net

he was also interviewed on the ProArms Podcast
http://proarmspodcast.com/2009/07/19/029-a-tale-of-two-gunsmiths/

Quack
06-21-2010, 11:55
There's also Canyon Creek
http://www.canyoncreekcustom.com/Home_Page.html

http://www.canyoncreekcustom.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_041ab/EMP-rt2.gif

http://www.canyoncreekcustom.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_041ab/EMP-lft.gif

Quack
06-21-2010, 11:59
and John Harrison
http://www.harrisoncustom.com/Gallery.aspx

http://www.louderthanwords.us/mediumfoto/picts/ulfls/30012008/11248281402.jpg

Quack
06-21-2010, 12:00
Ned Christiansen EMP

http://www.louderthanwords.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8029

http://www.louderthanwords.us/mediumfoto/picts/ulfls/10012010/10850305401.jpg

http://www.louderthanwords.us/mediumfoto/picts/ulfls/10012010/19770126401.jpg

http://www.louderthanwords.us/mediumfoto/picts/ulfls/11012010/14072240971.jpg

Quack
06-21-2010, 12:02
On Target Custom Gun Works
http://www.ontargetcgw.com/

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/ontarget1911/Untitled-2copy.jpg

Quack
06-21-2010, 12:03
C&S

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa201/cpd221/lkeftside.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa201/cpd221/rightside.jpg

pistolwrench
06-21-2010, 12:09
My compadre John Harrison has done a few of these. He's one of the very best!
HarrisonDesign.com......I think. Google is your friend.

Hokie1911
06-21-2010, 12:14
There's also Canyon Creek
http://www.canyoncreekcustom.com/Home_Page.html

http://www.canyoncreekcustom.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_041ab/EMP-rt2.gif

http://www.canyoncreekcustom.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_041ab/EMP-lft.gif

Man that looks SWEET. Love the Horned Lizards on that finish. Just ordered some for my Kimber. :supergrin:

Quack
06-21-2010, 12:15
My compadre John Harrison has done a few of these. He's one of the very best!
HarrisonDesign.com......I think. Google is your friend.

I think John would be my #1 pic for work on the EMP.

Hokie1911
06-21-2010, 12:20
I think John would be my #1 pic for work on the EMP.

I would consider myself lucky to have ANY of those guys from louderthanwords work on my pistolas.

That being said....sending my Kimber barrel/slide to Chuck today for flush crowning. :supergrin:

Quack
06-21-2010, 12:21
teh Canyon Creek EMP was on Gunbroker for a while, i guess it finally sold.

here's another Custom EMP. not my style, though i do like the naked slide.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=175188587

http://www.balazsmester.com/emp/emp40.JPG

http://www.balazsmester.com/emp/emp37.JPG

MD357
06-21-2010, 12:25
I REALLY like the undercut on that first Canyon Creek.

Quack you are a wealth of info on the EMP.

Quack
06-21-2010, 12:30
yep, i like the undercut too. the magwell is nice too, but wouldn't want it on my CCW.

I do a lot of surfing ;)

MD357
06-21-2010, 12:38
yep, i like the undercut too. the magwell is nice too, but wouldn't want it on my CCW.

I do a lot of surfing ;)

Yep, pointless on that particular platform IMHO but I'm looking to send my EMP 9 somewhere, it's disappointing to find out Springer won't round out the butt. I like the C&S gun too.

Quack
06-21-2010, 12:42
it's disappointing to find out Springer won't round out the butt.

that's what someone said their replay was, but i asked him if he asked for a rounded butt or bob, because in his post he said to he asked if the rear corner could be bobbed. i don't see why they couldn't round it out.

JRB75
06-21-2010, 14:49
that's what someone said their replay was, but i asked him if he asked for a rounded butt or bob, because in his post he said to he asked if the rear corner could be bobbed. i don't see why they couldn't round it out.

I just found this. Seems that Wilson produces a rounded mainspring housing, so they would just need to blend it into the frame....

http://shopwilsoncombat.com/images/92brbo.jpg

JRB75
06-23-2010, 21:14
Well Deb from Springfield Armory just got back to me. They will do the round "butt' on the EMP. Now I just have to decide what finish I want and off load a glock to help fund this project..:whistling:

glock2740
06-23-2010, 21:18
I have a buddy who sent his EMP .40 to Wilson for a reliability package and it is one of the sweetest shooting .40's , that I've EVER shot. GREAT gun.

Quack
06-23-2010, 21:31
Well Deb from Springfield Armory just got back to me. They will do the round "butt' on the EMP. Now I just have to decide what finish I want and off load a glock to help fund this project..:whistling:

Roguard slide with a NP3 frame :supergrin:

JRB75
06-23-2010, 21:47
Roguard slide with a NP3 frame :supergrin:

You know I was actually thinking about that but forgot to ask her if they would send it out for that finish. I did ask about hard chrome on the lower because I like Harison's custom but she responded they could not do that. Her option was to silver ceramic coat the lower. Haven't had time to research how durable that finish is.

I like the two-tone silver frame with black slide. I also thought about going all black...Choices.. choices..

jmb79
06-24-2010, 06:57
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=244293
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/greenst/EMP1.jpg


For the record... my wife's EMP 9, a picture of which Quack has already posted, has an NP3 frame and an Ionbond slide. I prefer Ionbond to Roguard.

cgjane
06-24-2010, 09:03
I want to clear my slide too.

JRB75
06-24-2010, 09:14
That looks great. John Harrison just got back to me, he currently only has a 3 year wait on a pistol like the one he build for his Daughter!!! :wow: He does great work so I can understand why the demand is so high.

Deb has been great answering all my questions. Now I just have to finalize what I want done and raise a bit of cash.. I just have to bear down and decide where I want to take this project..

Cochese
07-13-2010, 00:21
There's also Canyon Creek
http://www.canyoncreekcustom.com/Home_Page.html

http://www.canyoncreekcustom.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_041ab/EMP-rt2.gif

http://www.canyoncreekcustom.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_041ab/EMP-lft.gif

Anyone know what this slide refinish is?

Cochese
07-13-2010, 00:26
I have a 9mm Pro build coming in Black-T which will get Horned Lizards. I'm planning on picking up a P238 Nitrolon and adding HL's to that as well. Like so, (but all black)

http://richennis.com/Gallery/SAA/P238_090904_0001.jpg

Then, I just need to refinish my EMP in black.

Then I will have small, med and large. :supergrin:

CMG
07-13-2010, 06:41
Then I will have small, med and large. :supergrin:

Great idea! :supergrin:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/19119mm.jpg

Hokie1911
07-13-2010, 07:53
That looks great. John Harrison just got back to me, he currently only has a 3 year wait on a pistol like the one he build for his Daughter!!! :wow: He does great work so I can understand why the demand is so high.




:faint:

handyman
07-14-2010, 17:40
All the emp pics look very sharp.