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Ruggles
06-30-2010, 21:43
http://blueaugust.com/coarmsusa/

Any experience or word on these? Those Tenseness boys have a good history building firearms :)

Quack
06-30-2010, 21:47
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=262265

Ruggles
06-30-2010, 21:58
Thanks Quack !

jtkimber45
06-30-2010, 22:07
I like the looks of the AWP.

Ruggles
06-30-2010, 22:12
I like the looks of the AWP.

Yeah it looks nice :)

I really like the Scorpion's look as well.

bac1023
07-01-2010, 04:24
I like the Scorpion better. The AWP seems odd with such a short slide on a full size frame.

Ruggles
07-01-2010, 16:52
"I started looking for a high quality, less expensive, 100% USA made (except for the mags), 1911 that is still handbuilt by skilled smiths for a reasonable price. That is when I ran across C.O. Arms in Millington, Tennessee. The latest issue of Gun Digest reviewed their .45ACP Scorpion pistol and gave it high marks.

I called one of the owners of C.O. Arms and spoke with him. He was very cordial and explained to me that their guns use no MIM parts and all the parts are made in the USA using USA steel. In fact most of the internal parts come straight from Ed Brown! I am really looking forward to getting in my first order of these pistols."

From an email to me sent by one of the dealers that is going to carry this line of 1911s.

:)

glock2740
07-01-2010, 17:18
I do think the Scorpion is a good looking gun.

Ruggles
07-01-2010, 17:35
I do think the Scorpion is a good looking gun.

I certainly hope so as I just committed to buying a 9mm version of the Scorpion! :rofl:

I t will be a while before I have it as it is not even built yet but I will let everyone know how it turns out.

Price was $1295 for those interested. The one I committed too has a naked slide and a tritium front sight, non night sight white dot rear sight.

I have high hopes, something about Tennessee and guns just goes together. :supergrin:

bac1023
07-01-2010, 20:13
I certainly hope so as I just committed to buying a 9mm version of the Scorpion! :rofl:

I t will be a while before I have it as it is not even built yet but I will let everyone know how it turns out.

Price was $1295 for those interested. The one I committed too has a naked slide and a tritium front sight, non night sight white dot rear sight.

I have high hopes, something about Tennessee and guns just goes together. :supergrin:

My dealer has the four gun package from CO Arms on the way.

I'll check them out closely before buying one. The Scorpion would be the only one I'd consider.

drc767
07-01-2010, 20:16
Having shot all of the above....I will pass for now.

Ruggles
07-01-2010, 20:21
My dealer has the four gun package from CO Arms on the way.

I'll check them out closely before buying one. The Scorpion would be the only one I'd consider.

Yeah I know you are not he biggest fans of 1911 under 5", I did read that C.O. will make a Scorpion with a 5" slide upon request. :)

I am torn between the new Wilson X Tac and the C.O. 9mm Scorpion....leaning towards the C.O. at this time.

bac1023
07-01-2010, 20:28
Yeah I know you are not he biggest fans of 1911 under 5", I did read that C.O. will make a Scorpion with a 5" slide upon request. :)



Ruggles, I buy 1911s with full size frames only. I prefer 5", but also buy 1911s with 4" and 4.25" barrels. :)

The EGW in my avatar has a 4" barrel, as does my carry Kimber.

Ruggles
07-01-2010, 20:40
Ruggles, I buy 1911s with full size frames only. I prefer 5", but also buy 1911s with 4" and 4.25" barrels. :)

The EGW in my avatar has a 4" barrel, as does my carry Kimber.

Yeah I don't know what I was thinking, you carry a Kimber Pro right? I was a wee bit mixed up for some reason. Now I know you don't care for the 3" guns :)

bac1023
07-01-2010, 20:48
Yeah I don't know what I was thinking, you carry a Kimber Pro right? I was a wee bit mixed up for some reason. Now I know you don't care for the 3" guns :)

I don't buy them. They have improved a great deal in the last few years, but I'm happy with the full framed models.

The CO Arms AWP has a full size frame, but the barrel is shorter than what I buy.

Ruggles
07-01-2010, 20:53
I don't buy them. They have improved a great deal in the last few years, but I'm happy with the full framed models.

The CO Arms AWP has a full size frame, but the barrel is shorter than what I buy.

Yeah I noticed that, I do not think I have ever seen a 3.5" slide on a full size frame. Wonder what the balance would be like on that?

bac1023
07-01-2010, 21:05
Yeah I noticed that, I do not think I have ever seen a 3.5" slide on a full size frame. Wonder what the balance would be like on that?

Not sure.

I'd like to handle one, actually. I believe my dealer ordered an AWP as well.

Ruggles
07-01-2010, 21:49
Not sure.

I'd like to handle one, actually. I believe my dealer ordered an AWP as well.

Let us know if you do handle one. My dealer is thousands of miles away!

Quack
07-02-2010, 13:28
looks like you can get a naked slide on them :)

okie
07-02-2010, 14:40
I will say this, the grip safety fit is no where close to what Chuck does:shocked::faint:

Quack
07-02-2010, 15:03
I will say this, the grip safety fit is no where close to what Chuck does:shocked::faint:

the Scorpian in the photo is a pre-production prototype. the were trying different grip safeties and scrapped that one and went with an Ed Brown GS.


Is the example of the beavertail/frame fit on the Scorpion in the picture on your website representative of the actual product? I hope not because that looks pretty bad....to me at least. Just an observation, everything else looks ok, but a good beavertail/frame fit is what I look for 1st when I pick up a 1911 that has one.

Dave



The gun used for pictures on the web site has been extensively used before and since the photos. The beavertail fit on that pistol is not what goes out . We actually changed the entire beavertail and have gone with an Ed Brown that fits up really nice. The beavertail that is on that gun in the picture was an experimental unit that we choose to discontinue.

Texas Bulldog
07-02-2010, 15:09
Good looking 1911's

Id love to try one but the description and prices seem pretty nice.

JOe

COARMS
07-09-2010, 12:49
Well I finally got my account active. So I an join in the conversations. There is so much covered in this thread I do not know where to start to respond to all of it. If any one wants particular information or has questions just let me know.

Hokie1911
07-09-2010, 12:56
Well I finally got my account active. So I an join in the conversations. There is so much covered in this thread I do not know where to start to respond to all of it. If any one wants particular information or has questions just let me know.

:welcome:

bac1023
07-09-2010, 13:01
Well I finally got my account active. So I an join in the conversations. There is so much covered in this thread I do not know where to start to respond to all of it. If any one wants particular information or has questions just let me know.

:welcome: to GT!

Ruggles
07-09-2010, 18:04
Welcome :)

glock2740
07-09-2010, 19:06
Well I finally got my account active. So I an join in the conversations. There is so much covered in this thread I do not know where to start to respond to all of it. If any one wants particular information or has questions just let me know.
Glad to see you finally made it Tom. Welcome to GT :wavey:

knedrgr
07-09-2010, 23:22
Nice offerings on the site. Welcome.

MD357
07-10-2010, 00:02
Yeah, not a big fan of the extended controls. Too cumbersome for high speed, low drag operators. :supergrin::whistling:

bac1023
07-10-2010, 07:09
Yeah, not a big fan of the extended controls. Too cumbersome for high speed, low drag operators. :supergrin::whistling:

The slide stops don't look quite as big in the products page as they do on the homepage.

Hopefully, the guns come with the version in the products page.:dunno:

bac1023
07-15-2010, 13:55
My shop just got two CO Arms Scorpions in stock, SNs 0009 and 0010. The guns look nice from an aesthetics standpoint, including the checkering, but I'll wait until they have been on the market a bit. I'm not making anymore $1000+ 1911 purchases this year anyway.

Either way, they have started shipping. The AWP hasn't yet though.

I buy $600 and under guns right off the first delivery, but when it comes to spending twice that, I like to wait things out a bit.







.

Hokie1911
07-15-2010, 14:22
My shop just got two CO Arms Scorpions in stock, SNs 0009 and 0010. The guns look nice from an aesthetics standpoint, including the checkering, but I'll wait until they have been on the market a bit. I'm not making anymore $1000+ 1911 purchases this year anyway.

Either way, they have started shipping. The AWP hasn't yet though.

I buy $600 and under guns right off the first delivery, but when it comes to spending twice that, I like to wait things out a bit.


What was the street price?

drc767
07-15-2010, 14:37
My shop just got two CO Arms Scorpions in stock, SNs 0009 and 0010. The guns look nice from an aesthetics standpoint, including the checkering, but I'll wait until they have been on the market a bit. I'm not making anymore $1000+ 1911 purchases this year anyway.

Either way, they have started shipping. The AWP hasn't yet though.

I buy $600 and under guns right off the first delivery, but when it comes to spending twice that, I like to wait things out a bit.







.

Good call, Brian. My experience shooting them was less than positive. I would wait a while on these to see if they can get the bugs worked out.

bac1023
07-15-2010, 14:40
What was the street price?

I think they had them priced at $1149, but I could be wrong. I wasn't looking to buy, just wanted to check them over.

I always like seeing new companies, especially small companies, bringing a 1911 to market. This isn't a large existing company introducing a 1911, like Remington or Magnum Research. This is a whole new boutique 1911 outfit.

glock2740
07-15-2010, 15:26
Good looking gun and would be cool to have such a low serial number, but like Brian said, for $1000+, I want to hear from owners that have put some good range time through them.

bac1023
07-15-2010, 15:37
Good looking gun and would be cool to have such a low serial number, but like Brian said, for $1000+, I want to hear from owners that have put some good range time through them.

Exactly.

$500 and I don't mind buying the first model that rolls off the assembly line.

This is a bit different.

Quack
02-19-2011, 10:22
did he go under?

http://www.coarmsusa.com/

Hokie1911
02-19-2011, 10:24
Shocking. :whistling:

Ruggles
02-19-2011, 10:51
Shocking. :whistling:

Sad overall, I wish we had a new 1911 company on the scene making quality priced 1911s at a good price. Glad I did not buy one though.

drc767
02-19-2011, 14:21
I called that one last summer......It is not suprising to me one bit.

Ruggles
02-19-2011, 16:15
I called that one last summer......It is not suprising to me one bit.

I remember that :)

thecableguy
02-19-2011, 16:19
I called that one last summer......It is not suprising to me one bit.

You sure did Dave.

bac1023
02-19-2011, 20:48
did he go under?

http://www.coarmsusa.com/

Those two guns are still sitting at my local shop. If he sells me one half price, I may grab it. ;)

They really are poor quality though. Any 1911 enthusiast with half a brain can easily see that. :shakehead:

He probably sold a few, had numerous complaints, and then bailed.

bac1023
02-19-2011, 20:51
I called that one last summer......It is not suprising to me one bit.

Yep.

When I handled those two at my shop, I could see what you meant without even firing them. Its amazing these clowns thought they put put garbage out for that kind of money.

I feel bad for my dealer, who's a great guy. He bought two of those Scorpions. I would take one off his hands for $600. Other than the grips, I like the way they look. They would just need some work to get running.

thecableguy
02-19-2011, 21:02
Poor George still has one of them on his site.

Hokie1911
02-19-2011, 21:44
Poor George still has one of them on his site.

George has them for $900 (initially $1,200) I think. Someone should lowball him just to get rid of them. He's had them for a whiiiiiiile.

bac1023
02-19-2011, 22:37
George has them for $900 (initially $1,200) I think. Someone should lowball him just to get rid of them. He's had them for a whiiiiiiile.

I wouldn't pay $900, that's for sure.

They aren't $900 1911s. $1200 is highway robbery. If the company did indead fold up, they got what they deserved.

Quack
02-19-2011, 22:50
I wouldn't pay $900, that's for sure.

They aren't $900 1911s. $1200 is highway robbery. If the company did indead fold up, they got what they deserved.

so tell us how you really feel. :animlol:

bac1023
02-19-2011, 22:52
so tell us how you really feel. :animlol:

:rofl::rofl:

Don, if you handled one, you would feel the same way. :tongueout:

Quack
02-19-2011, 22:59
Just looked at C.O. Arms FB page and a guys had a problem with his and no one has gotten back to him in months. Should I tell him that they probably went out of business. :whistling:

Quack
02-19-2011, 23:03
Done.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/CO-Arms/103349716379849?v=wall

bac1023
02-20-2011, 07:08
Just looked at C.O. Arms FB page and a guys had a problem with his and no one has gotten back to him in months. Should I tell him that they probably went out of business. :whistling:

Wow.

What a bunch of losers. :upeyes:

I'd be pissed if I bought one for regular price and that happened. These people had no clue what the hell they were doing and probably screwed some good people out of money.

Since they're going to be so "rare", I would take one off my dealer's hands.

...at half price. ;)

drc767
02-20-2011, 07:41
Wow.

What a bunch of losers. :upeyes:

I'd be pissed if I bought one for regular price and that happened. These people had no clue what the hell they were doing and probably screwed some good people out of money.

Since they're going to be so "rare", I would take one off my dealer's hands.

...at half price. ;)

And you would still be losing your ass......... :)

bac1023
02-20-2011, 09:19
And you would still be losing your ass......... :)

Yeah, I guess they aren't worth even $600. :rofl:

drc767
02-20-2011, 09:59
Yeah, I guess they aren't worth even $600. :rofl:

They were pretty damn bad, at least in my "hands on" experience with them. I still cannot believe they brought those pistols to an "open shoot". My wife and I laughed about it all the way home from Jackson to Nashville. I was actually pretty embarrassed for them. On the bright side......I actually now know what it is like to shoot an automatic 1911. :rofl:

bac1023
02-20-2011, 10:03
They were pretty damn bad, at least in my "hands on" experience with them. I still cannot believe they brought those pistols to an "open shoot". My wife and I laughed about it all the way home from Jackson to Nashville. I was actually pretty embarrassed for them. On the bright side......I actually now know what it is like to shoot an automatic 1911. :rofl:

Yep.

I remember you telling me over the phone. You called it right. Why in the world would they let potential dealers see those guns?

As you said, they were probably the best of the lot. :faint:

Maybe they got sued? Those guns sounded pretty damn dangerous. :shocked:

Quack
02-20-2011, 10:07
looks like his other page is still up....

http://www.dgccustomgunsmithing.com/

Quack
02-20-2011, 10:10
saw this on another forum....

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/ceelfi/COArms.jpg

On their homepage, they display their flagship pistol with ammunition from "XTREME SHOK".

That loses them my business right there.

:animlol:

drc767
02-20-2011, 10:15
saw this on another forum....



:animlol:

Eight fire breathing, nuclear tipped projectiles fired by one pull of the trigger.......Hmmm.

Quack
02-20-2011, 10:20
http://www.extremeshockusa.com/gfx_splash/top_2.jpg

Quack
02-20-2011, 10:27
i wonder if this meant the lifetime of the business?

DGC Custom and C.O. Arms products carry a lifetime warrenty with a one year over the counter replacement garantee. See your dealer or contact us for more details.

looks like that one guy has been trying to contact them since November and still now answer

Hokie1911
02-20-2011, 10:31
i wonder if this meant the lifetime of the business?



looks like that one guy has been trying to contact them since November and still now answer

That SUCKS.

bac1023
02-20-2011, 10:31
Eight fire breathing, nuclear tipped projectiles fired by one pull of the trigger.......Hmmm.

:rofl::rofl:

bac1023
02-20-2011, 10:33
i wonder if this meant the lifetime of the business?



looks like that one guy has been trying to contact them since November and still now answer

Yeah, I'm going to let my dealer know and she if they can get through.

That's a hell of a lifetime warrenty. :rofl:

drc767
02-20-2011, 10:37
"....carry a lifetime warrenty with a one year over the counter replacement garantee"


What the hell is a "warrenty" and "garantee"??? A statement obviously prepared by his legal counsel. Good lord!!! That statement, right there, should tell you everything you need to know about the professionalism of that company.

Quack
02-20-2011, 10:48
Looking at the FB page, knedrgr apparently likes C.O. Arms...maybe he should buy the one from George :animlol:

bac1023
02-20-2011, 10:49
Looking at the FB page, knedrgr apparently likes C.O. Arms...maybe he should buy the one from George :animlol:

:rofl:

Quack
02-20-2011, 10:57
yeah, i know i'm trolling to see if there is any lawsuit or anything going on with them and i stumble across this...maybe Joe should buy one too :animlol:

I doubt you could go wrong with the CO 1911. They carry a lifetime transferrable warranty. That kinda says alot about the confidence that they have in their product.

Quack
02-20-2011, 10:58
.......

Rusty talks with a custom 1911 maker in West Tennessee:

While CO Arms is small (they employ about seven people in the shop), they are far from inexperienced. Tom estimates they have over 200 years of machine shop experience between them. The operation began as a gunsmithing/customization business, but when they ran into poor production standards from their suppliers, they decided they could do it all in house, and better.

Quack
02-20-2011, 11:00
......

closing the case on c.o. arms
leave a comment | 16Feb11 2128 | written by Linoge

And so ends the saga.

Everyone remember C.O. Arms? The new 1911 fabricator right here in the Patron State of Shooting Stuff that, at least according to them, made the awesomest 1911s the world had ever seen?

Yeah, their webpage domain registration has expired (at the beginning of this month… apparently you can “backorder” it through GoDaddy for about $21), their Millington-local phone number is disconnected, no one is picking up on their Seattle-area-code number, and their Facebook page has not been updated since June of last year (not that it was much to begin with).

Whoops.

On the one hand, I am sad to see any business fail these days, especially one dedicated to producing one of the more-attractive (in my opinion) handguns ever to roll off an assembly line, and doubly especially given that the company in question was based in Tennessee. I would have loved for them to succeed, but…

On the other hand, success hinges on good products and ethical business practices, and, from what I have experienced and read, C.O. Arms failed on both counts. Far be it for me to put all of my eggs in the baskets of Internet Experts, but the reviews of their 1911s were less than positive across the board (Full-auto for the last four rounds? Really?), and you already know my concerns about their advertising methods.

In the end, it would appear as though no number of purchased press releases or “reviews” would save C.O. Arms from sub-standard products and a lousy first impression… but you would think that went without saying, would you not?

bac1023
02-20-2011, 11:01
yeah, i know i'm trolling to see if there is any lawsuit or anything going on with them and i stumble across this...maybe Joe should buy one too :animlol:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

bac1023
02-20-2011, 11:09
.......

......

Unreal...

Nickpisp
02-20-2011, 11:23
Looks like they don't gunsmith anymore either...


Welcome to the DGC Custom Gunsmithing ,Inc web site. Thanks for coming by I hope you enjoy your time here on the web site. You will notice several major changes to the site as well as operations here. Some of the major changes to note are that we have discontinued taking gun smith and refinishing work. The demands of our manufacturing side have made it impossible to keep up with both. Another major change is that very soon you will be able to shop our entire inventory from this website as well as design your own custom 1911 pistol. We will also be unveiling an entire line of DGC products to support the 1911 platform as well as other popular firearms.

glock2740
02-20-2011, 11:34
yeah, i know i'm trolling to see if there is any lawsuit or anything going on with them and i stumble across this...maybe Joe should buy one too :animlol:
Hey, that was after talking to the owner of the company, Tom IIRC. Then Dave went and shot them and called me and told me about what happened. So, I officially retract my statement from my original post on that other forum. :embarassed:
:rofl:But, maybe now they're collector's items. :whistling: It would look pretty good good if it was hardchromed. Sitting in the safe of course. :rofl:

drc767
02-20-2011, 11:41
Hey, that was after talking to the owner of the company, Tom IIRC. Then Dave went and shot them and called me and told me about what happened. So, I officially retract my statement from my original post on that other forum. :embarassed:
:rofl:But, maybe now they're collector's items. :whistling: It would look pretty good good if it was hardchromed. Sitting in the safe of course. :rofl:

Collectors items if you are Fred Sanford..........

Quack
02-20-2011, 11:42
so what would one buy?

Taurus - Para - C.O. Arms?

glock2740
02-20-2011, 12:01
Collectors items if you are Fred Sanford..........
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Nickpisp
02-20-2011, 12:08
so what would one buy?

Taurus - Para - C.O. Arms?

At least someone had the good sense to quit making C.O. Arms. :rofl:

bac1023
02-20-2011, 12:43
Hey, that was after talking to the owner of the company, Tom IIRC. Then Dave went and shot them and called me and told me about what happened. So, I officially retract my statement from my original post on that other forum. :embarassed:
:rofl:But, maybe now they're collector's items. :whistling: It would look pretty good good if it was hardchromed. Sitting in the safe of course. :rofl:

:animlol:

thecableguy
02-20-2011, 12:44
Dave what was their response when the guns went full auto?

knedrgr
02-20-2011, 12:44
Looking at the FB page, knedrgr apparently likes C.O. Arms...maybe he should buy the one from George :animlol:

:rofl: yeah, that was when they just started out.

bac1023
02-20-2011, 12:44
At least someone had the good sense to quit making C.O. Arms. :rofl:

Very true. ;)

Quack
02-20-2011, 12:54
Dave what was their response when the guns went full auto?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e195/PrimroseSue/Urkel.png

Quack
02-20-2011, 12:56
:rofl: yeah, that was when they just started out.

why'd you go and unlike them? :whistling::rofl:

knedrgr
02-20-2011, 12:58
no point in liking them when they're out of business...

Quack
02-20-2011, 12:59
poor guy on FB....here's what he had to say when i said that they may have gone under:

OH great!!!!!!!!!!
I have #13 out of 24 of there TNFRNRA 1911
and can't get any info.... Nice company for NRA to be associated with>>> GO NRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quack
02-20-2011, 13:01
no point in liking them when they're out of business...

or you could like them since they are out of business :rofl::rofl:

bac1023
02-20-2011, 13:09
why'd you go and unlike them? :whistling::rofl:

no point in liking them when they're out of business...

:rofl:

bac1023
02-20-2011, 13:10
poor guy on FB....here's what he had to say when i said that they may have gone under:

Wow.

My dealer owns #9 and #10 of the Scorpion line.

I wonder how many were built?

drc767
02-20-2011, 13:28
Dave what was their response when the guns went full auto?


I ensured it was clear, locked the slide back, dropped the mag, handed it to Tom and said "you might want to take this one off the line". I left right after that.....

thecableguy
02-20-2011, 13:32
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e195/PrimroseSue/Urkel.png
:rofl:

Hokie1911
02-20-2011, 14:02
Wow.

My dealer owns #9 and #10 of the Scorpion line.

I wonder how many were built?

9 or 10? :whistling:

bac1023
02-20-2011, 15:26
I ensured it was clear, locked the slide back, dropped the mag, handed it to Tom and said "you might want to take this one off the line". I left right after that.....

That would have been my response too. :)

Quack
02-20-2011, 16:29
i would've shot it again...then told him it's crap...:animlol:

bac1023
02-20-2011, 16:48
9 or 10? :whistling:

:rofl:

Maybe so...

thecableguy
02-20-2011, 17:31
I wonder if I order another gun from George if he'll throw in the C.O. :supergrin:

bac1023
02-20-2011, 20:36
I wonder if I order another gun from George if he'll throw in the C.O. :supergrin:

:rofl:

glock2740
02-20-2011, 20:41
I wonder if I order another gun from George if he'll throw in the C.O. :supergrin:
Why? Did you piss him off or something?:dunno:


:rofl:

Quack
02-20-2011, 20:48
Why? Did you piss him off or something?:dunno:


:rofl:

:animlol:

thecableguy
02-20-2011, 21:07
Why? Did you piss him off or something?:dunno:
:rofl::rofl:
I think it would make a good project gun if you could get it for cheap.:dunno:

Ruggles
02-20-2011, 21:14
Wow I started this thread in June of last year because I was VERY close to buying one. Glad that fell apart :rofl:

Pretty short amount of time for a new company to start and fail in the 1911 world. Maybe they should have come out with a satin finish model with gold small parts and some fake mother of pearl grips. :tongueout:

thecableguy
02-20-2011, 21:17
I know someone who would of kept them in business if they were all hard chrome.:whistling:

bac1023
02-20-2011, 21:35
Wow I started this thread in June of last year because I was VERY close to buying one. Glad that fell apart :rofl:

Pretty short amount of time for a new company to start and fail in the 1911 world. Maybe they should have come out with a satin finish model with gold small parts and some fake mother of pearl grips. :tongueout:

:rofl:

Yeah, all jokes aside, these guys must of had a very filmsy business platform to begin with. Selling people crap like that for good money with a "lifetime" warranty and then boarding up makes them border line crooks, in my opinion.

I'm pissed about it and I didn't even buy one. :steamed:

Ruggles
02-20-2011, 21:58
:rofl:

Yeah, all jokes aside, these guys must of had a very filmsy business platform to begin with. Selling people crap like that for good money with a "lifetime" warranty and then boarding up makes them border line crooks, in my opinion.

I'm pissed about it and I didn't even buy one. :steamed:

I agree, pretty low of them to do that. They must have had a crummy business plane to not even make it 12 months. I think a lot of folks like me were wishing they would build a quality product.