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revel8
07-07-2010, 20:49
I asked springfield about making the emp slide black to match the frame, they said nothing would have good adhesion to the slide. True?

Also, could the frame be made to look like the slide, via bead-blasting or something simliar? Not digging this particular two-tone, love the gun though!

bac1023
07-07-2010, 21:14
:dunno:

Dan Wesson uses a black finish on their Valor. Its a stainless 1911 as far as I know.


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/004-6.jpg

Hokie1911
07-07-2010, 21:16
Stainless + melonite = :supergrin:

Hokie1911
07-07-2010, 21:19
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/004-6.jpg

Man, that Valor is AWESOME. :thumbsup:

Trey83
07-07-2010, 21:27
Doesn't the Gen III coating from Ed Brown go over a stainless frame and slide?

http://www.edbrown.com/images/handguns/executive2.jpg

bac1023
07-07-2010, 21:27
Man, that Valor is AWESOME. :thumbsup:

Thanks man.

I haven't shot it since I did a comparison range report I did between it and my Sprngfield TRP.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=885646

That was over two years ago. Honestly, I'm not even sure I've shot my TRP since then either. :dunno:

Sad, but true. I have too many, I guess. :embarassed:

Hokie1911
07-07-2010, 21:33
Thanks man.

I haven't shot it since I did a comparison range report I did between it and my Sprngfield TRP.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=885646

That was over two years ago. Honestly, I'm not even sure I've shot my TRP since then either. :dunno:

Sad, but true. I have too many, I guess. :embarassed:

I will PM you my address. Send it here and I will make sure it gets plenty of attention. :thumbsup:

JRB75
07-07-2010, 21:39
I was recently emailing Deb from the Springfield custom shop about some work. She told me that the frame could be done in ceramic coat to make it silver and there would be no problems with putting Black T on the slide. Not sure why they couldn't Armory Kote the slide as well..

bac1023
07-07-2010, 21:53
I was recently emailing Deb from the Springfield custom shop about some work. She told me that the frame could be done in ceramic coat to make it silver and there would be no problems with putting Black T on the slide. Not sure why they couldn't Armory Kote the slide as well..

I'm not sure.

Maybe Armory Kote doesn't adhere to stainless well.

Black T is far better anyway.

JRB75
07-07-2010, 21:56
Black T is far better anyway.

I agree. Revel, just keep in mind if you go with Black T, it will add to the turn around time. I won't say what I was quoted.. :whistling:

Now if you are just planning on getting your EMP refinished.. Robar is always an option.. You could do a NP3 Plus and Roguard finish to get your two tone look...

Cobra64
07-07-2010, 22:05
:dunno:

Dan Wesson uses a black finish on their Valor. Its a stainless 1911 as far as I know.


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/004-6.jpg

Yup, all stainless steel. Forged stainless to boot. :)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Valor/P1020045.jpg



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MD357
07-07-2010, 22:17
I asked springfield about making the emp slide black to match the frame, they said nothing would have good adhesion to the slide. True?

Also, could the frame be made to look like the slide, via bead-blasting or something simliar? Not digging this particular two-tone, love the gun though!

That's BS, lots of coatings will work on the slide.

On your frame question it depends on whether you have the 9mm or .40. The .40 is a Stainless frame and the 9mm is a alum alloy. You are somewhat limited as to what you can do with the alum frame.

Quack
07-07-2010, 22:21
I'm not sure.

Maybe Armory Kote doesn't adhere to stainless well.

Black T is far better anyway.

I believe that the black parts of the Black Stainless Loaded's are AK

http://www.themarksman.net/item_photos/large/Springfield_Loaded_Black_Stainless_Target___45_ACP_832.jpg

the EMP .40 frame is carbon steel with AK
the 9mm frame is anodized alloy


my Kobra Carry is GenIII coated SS.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_2232.jpg

Hokie1911
07-07-2010, 22:23
Yup, all stainless steel. Forged stainless to boot. :)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Valor/P1020045.jpg



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Cobra, that may be the sexiest Valor ever. :thumbsup:

MD357
07-07-2010, 22:24
Funny thing is that via the Springfield website the EMP .40 frame is stainless steel "black hardcoat anodized."

Cobra64
07-07-2010, 22:27
Cobra, that may be the sexiest Valor ever. :thumbsup:

Yeah maybe, but I really like bobtailed 1911s, so it just worked out that way. :)

Hokie1911
07-07-2010, 22:28
Yeah maybe, but I really like bobtailed 1911s, so it just worked out that way. :)

Me too. :thumbsup:

Quack
07-07-2010, 22:29
Funny thing is that via the Springfield website the EMP .40 frame is stainless steel "black hardcoat anodized."

my bad, it is anodized as well

bac1023
07-07-2010, 22:30
Cobra, that may be the sexiest Valor ever. :thumbsup:

No doubt :cool:

bac1023
07-07-2010, 22:31
Yeah maybe, but I really like bobtailed 1911s, so it just worked out that way. :)

Its also the prototype for the new VBOB. :supergrin:

Cobra64
07-07-2010, 22:38
Its also the prototype for the new VBOB. :supergrin:

It sorta seemed to work out that way didn't it? ;)

As you know, Keith's comments and the the timing certainly indicates that it was. :supergrin:

bac1023
07-07-2010, 22:38
It sorta seemed to work out that way didn't it? ;)

As you know, Keith's comments and the the timing certainly indicates that it was. :supergrin:

If it wasn't the deciding factor, it certainly had something to do with it. :wavey:

MD357
07-08-2010, 00:39
my bad, it is anodized as well

I was just sayin that I think it's funny taking into consideration what they told him. :cool:

revel8
07-08-2010, 20:32
Guys I'm dyslexic or something, sorry. I want the slide to be black like the frame is, typed the wrpng question initially, I have the 9mm

Cobra64
07-08-2010, 21:11
Guys I'm dyslexic or something, sorry. I want the slide to be black like the frame is, typed the wrpng question initially, I have the 9mm

All of the P229s have stainless slides. The newer P226s and P220s have stainless slides.

faawrenchbndr
07-09-2010, 06:13
IonBond

jedi573
07-12-2010, 16:06
It's really not a black-or-white thing. Many finishes adhere better to carbon steel guns. I have a stainless XD that I sent back to the Custom Shop; one of the things I had done was a Black-T finish on the whole thing. It doesn't stick as well to the stainless, but it's better than nothing.

If you're starting from scratch, most finishes work better on carbon steel. :)

Andy

98_1LE
07-12-2010, 19:35
Fusion's Ion Bond sticks to stainless. I had the IB a stainless Ruger bolt, and it came back beautiful. Kinda looks blued, but so far more durable.

Cobra64
07-12-2010, 19:56
Fusion's Ion Bond sticks to stainless. I had the IB a stainless Ruger bolt, and it came back beautiful. Kinda looks blued, but so far more durable.

:agree:

An alternative is Superblack. It's a chemical process, not a coating.


Before:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1000564.jpg





After:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020528.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020532.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020549.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020550.jpg




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Hokie1911
07-12-2010, 22:01
:agree:

An alternative is Superblack. It's a chemical process, not a coating.


Before:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1000564.jpg





After:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020528.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020532.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020549.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020550.jpg




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Always love seeing your 226. That thing is freaking awesome.

Cobra64
07-13-2010, 18:54
Always love seeing your 226. That thing is freaking awesome.

Thanks Hokie. Aside from my 1911s, it's my favorite pistol. The custom trigger work I had done puts SA almost on par with a 1911.

Getting rid of the dopey tac rail makes it a true Sig "classic;" something that the clowns in Exeter should figure out someday.

Hokie1911
07-13-2010, 19:54
Getting rid of the dopey tac rail makes it a true Sig "classic;" something that the clowns in Exeter should figure out someday.

Considering this is what they are coming up with nowadays...I wouldn't hold your breath on that.

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/sig_p238_rainbow_01.jpg

Cobra64
07-13-2010, 20:30
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Happy%20Faces/greensmiley.gif

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/sig_p238_rainbow_01.jpg



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revel8
07-17-2010, 13:21
looks nice hokie, who does that service?

Hokie1911
07-17-2010, 16:03
looks nice hokie, who does that service?

LOL, I don't own one. I'm sure the fine folks in Exeter, NH would love to sell you one.

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=67&productid=280

Cobra64
07-17-2010, 16:54
LOL, I don't own one. I'm sure the fine folks in Exeter, NH would love to sell you one.

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=67&productid=280



Yup, just contact the product managers.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/ZootSuit.jpg





You can't miss 'em when they're on the road making sales calls...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cars/73_Hogan_Corvarado203.jpg



:wavey:

Hokie1911
07-17-2010, 17:04
It's a little known fact that Cobra was indeed planning on blinging out his 226. Sadly, he changed his mind last minute.

http://www.misterbling.se/images/BBG009-B.gif

Keith also declined to set up his Valor like this for him.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii57/agatha27_bucket/pink-3.jpg

Cobra64
07-17-2010, 17:25
It's a little known fact that Cobra was indeed planning on blinging out his 226. Sadly, he changed his mind last minute.

http://www.misterbling.se/images/BBG009-B.gif

Keith also declined to set up his Valor like this for him.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii57/agatha27_bucket/pink-3.jpg

You put me into cardiac arrest. :steamed:

bac1023
07-17-2010, 20:19
:agree:

An alternative is Superblack. It's a chemical process, not a coating.


Before:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1000564.jpg





After:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020528.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020532.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020549.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020550.jpg




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That is awesome Cobra.

It looks so much nicer without the rail and the black finish is beautifully done.

Cobra64
07-17-2010, 20:52
That is awesome Cobra.

It looks so much nicer without the rail and the black finish is beautifully done.

Thanks Bac. For the most part, I dislike rails as much as you do lasers. :rofl:



You might enjoy this link: http://grayguns.com/gallery/

There are some rare pieces there.

bac1023
07-17-2010, 20:55
You might enjoy this link: http://grayguns.com/gallery/

There are some rare pieces there.

Wild stuff :supergrin:

Cobra64
07-17-2010, 21:04
Wild stuff :supergrin:

I think I mentioned to you that you need to add a Devel to your collection. :supergrin:


http://grayguns.com/wp-content/gallery/general-images/ggi-38-super-comp-gammon.jpg



http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/DEVELGANNON.jpg

bac1023
07-18-2010, 01:23
Yeah, I like the old Devel custom autos. :)