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James Dean
07-14-2010, 17:59
Hi Guys. I don't own any 1911's, at this time. I use to own a Colt Gold Cup back in the 80s, and I sold it in the 90s. What do you guys think of the springfield GI? I really like the fact that it is what the made in WW2. I also really like the U.S. Grips. Does anyone have one. Pros and cons. Thanks Alex

deadite
07-14-2010, 18:09
Hi Guys. I don't own any 1911's, at this time. I use to own a Colt Gold Cup back in the 80s, and I sold it in the 90s. What do you guys think of the springfield GI? I really like the fact that it is what the made in WW2. I also really like the U.S. Grips. Does anyone have one. Pros and cons. Thanks Alex

I traded for one a few months back and it's been pretty reliable so far.

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Pros: It's frame and slide are forged, it's a pretty close copy of an A1, nicely fitted, it's a series 70, cool lanyard loop on MSH, points nicely.

Cons: It has a integral keyed lock on the main spring housing that could malfunction, the sights aren't that good, the grips actually suck. The GI deal is sorta silly and the wood they're made out of is really cheap. I switched them out to ebony double diamonds. The mag has worked so far, but I relaced it with a Wilson. The trigger sorta sucks, but will probaby improve over time.

Note: My barrel was recalled and they replaced it with a nicer stainless barrel and bushing. Also, they smoothed it out a little.

Anyway, it's a solid 1911 and I think you'd like it.

deadite

LRB2GZ
07-14-2010, 18:14
The Springfield GI was my first (and only) 1911. So far I love it and now I'm wanting more 1911s.

I took the US grips off, I liked them, but I put a set of knock off plastic USGI style grips on it. I like the way it looks now better since its closer to the original look.

Cons of the gun would be the ejection port and sights. I thought about changing the sights to Mil-spec sights but decided to keep it as stock as possible. I've gotten used to them now and its not that much of a problem. With the ejection port not being lowered and flared it tends to dent the brass and every now and again throw brass at your head. Neither really bother me enough not to like the gun or make me get it modified.

I like the gun the way it is and if I do anything else to it it'll be replace the ILS mainspring housing with another GI style one without the ILS.

bac1023
07-14-2010, 18:35
Mine has been great. Its a well built 1911, using a forged frame and slide from Brazil.

The only cons are that it lacks the features to reliably feed JHP ammo. If you aren't going to carry it, its no big deal.


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LRB2GZ
07-14-2010, 18:52
The only cons are that it lacks the features to reliably feed JHP ammo. If you aren't going to carry it, its no big deal.



I've actually been carrying mine. FMJ .45 has gotta do more than that .380 LCP I was carrying everyday before. And I've completely neglected and ignored my glocks since getting this gun. It guess this is how it all starts.

That being said, I realize its not the best 1911 for carry and will probably buy a Kimber Custom II (or TLE II) or Springfield TRP eventually for carry.

Its funny. I bought the LCP because I thought my glocks were too big for carry in the South Carolina summer and now I'm carrying a full size solid metal .45. Because of this I this I'll probably stick to Government models for now.

Here's before and after pics of the grip change.

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The pics aren't the best.

bac1023
07-14-2010, 18:55
Looks nice. I don't know why I got the stainless.

That said, I do own plenty of parkerized USGI replicas and a couple of real USGIs.

jrs93accord
07-14-2010, 19:32
I have had my GI for a few years now. I have only shot it once. I recently picked up one of its little brothers, a Micro Compact.

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The GI is a good pistol and reasonably priced.

n2extrm
07-14-2010, 19:52
I have the Mil-Spec and have enjoyed it for the last year, year and a half I guess. The trigger sucked out of the box. I sent it to SA and had the trigger done, the MS housing replaced with one with out the ILS and asked them if I could buy the grips from the GI. They charged me $11 for the grips IIRC. I never put them on because they are not as nice of a wood in person.

I would buy one again.

ctfireman
07-14-2010, 20:27
I've been attracted to the SA gi & milspec for a while. Definitley a big fan of both.

a_tack
07-14-2010, 20:42
Had a stainless one a few years ago.. Loved it, wish I had never sold it. It is worth the extra money to send it back to springfield for the defense package (i think thats what its called) if you plan on carrying it. This includes lowered and flared ejection port, throated barrel, polished feed ramp, and beveled mag well..

bac1023
07-14-2010, 21:05
Had a stainless one a few years ago.. Loved it, wish I had never sold it. It is worth the extra money to send it back to springfield for the defense package (i think thats what its called) if you plan on carrying it. This includes lowered and flared ejection port, throated barrel, polished feed ramp, and beveled mag well..

If you're going to carry, its much more cost effective to just go with the Mil-Spec.

The_Drizzle
07-14-2010, 21:22
The only cons are that it lacks the features to reliably feed JHP ammo. If you aren't going to carry it, its no big deal.


It does lack the "finer things" but mine has cycled everthing I put through it without one malfunction. The WWB is of course no problem, but I have never had an issue with my fathers cast lead reloads, or his JHP reloads. The barrel is throated and the feed only took about 3 seconds to polish up nicely.

bac1023
07-14-2010, 21:24
It does lack the "finer things" but mine has cycled everthing I put through it without one malfunction. The WWB is of course no problem, but I have never had an issue with my fathers cast lead reloads, or his JHP reloads. The barrel is throated and the feed only took about 3 seconds to polish up nicely.

Yeah, the barrel is throated, which is something a standard USGI barrel doesn't have.

Todesengel
07-14-2010, 21:35
I was going to get a SA GI but when I fondled one and everything was very loose I passed. Rather pay a little more and get a Colt 1991...the last few I've seen were nicely made. The Para GI Expert I handled also seemed pretty nice.

bac1023
07-14-2010, 21:41
I was going to get a SA GI but when I fondled one and everything was very loose I passed. Rather pay a little more and get a Colt 1991...the last few I've seen were nicely made. The Para GI Expert I handled also seemed pretty nice.

Hmm.

I like Colts, but I never heard of somebody getting one because it was tighter than the competition. :tongueout:

Colts are a lot of things, but "tight" isn't one of them.

The older Colt were better in that regard, from my experience.

deadite
07-15-2010, 05:16
When I traded for mine, the barrel was already replaced from the recall. The guy only shot around 50 rounds through it. Maybe, it's because SA replaced the barrel with the nicer stainless one and polished the feed ramp, but mine seems to feed HP pretty well. Given, I only shot around 25 rounds of self-defence rounds through it.

I carry this in my man purse withy FMJ, though. :)

deadite

deadite
07-15-2010, 05:18
Here's before and after pics of the grip change.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p310/JGReaper/Guns/DSCF3427-1.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p310/JGReaper/Guns/DSCF3431-1.jpg

The pics aren't the best.

Curious, where did you get the grips?

deadite

Todesengel
07-15-2010, 05:50
Hmm.

I like Colts, but I never heard of somebody getting one because it was tighter than the competition. :tongueout:

Colts are a lot of things, but "tight" isn't one of them.

The older Colt were better in that regard, from my experience.
The 1991's I've looked at recently aren't that tight but sure tighter then the GI's and Mil-Specs I've handled...their barrel moved up and down while in battery with very little pressure...slide to frame fit wasn't any better. So far the nicest 1911 for around $500 must be the GI Expert. Don't know how they shoot personally but hear a lot of praise. I haven't had a chance to look at the Remington R1 but it seems nice also.

bac1023
07-15-2010, 05:59
The 1991's I've looked at recently aren't that tight but sure tighter then the GI's and Mil-Specs I've handled...their barrel moved up and down while in battery with very little pressure...slide to frame fit wasn't any better. So far the nicest 1911 for around $500 must be the GI Expert. Don't know how they shoot personally but hear a lot of praise. I haven't had a chance to look at the Remington R1 but it seems nice also.

Actually, slide to frame fitting tightness is not really how I judge an entry level 1911. The barrel lockup is a much better indicator of accuracy anyway.

I feel a 1911 under $700 should really be judged on terms of reliability (which a more loose fit can actually help), small parts quality and fitting, and finish, so it can at least hold up for daily carry.

bac1023
07-15-2010, 06:07
So far the nicest 1911 for around $500 must be the GI Expert. Don't know how they shoot personally but hear a lot of praise. I haven't had a chance to look at the Remington R1 but it seems nice also.


I really can't see Para being the best at anything, frankly.

I do like the GI Expert better than the more expensice junk they sell, but their cast slides have been problematic. I like the GI Expert since it doesn't have that ridiculously gimmicky "Power Extractor".

Still, I actually like the Filipino 1911s better than anything from Para.


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LRB2GZ
07-15-2010, 06:22
Curious, where did you get the grips?

deadite

They're Auto ordnance GI grips I got from tommygunshop.com. I wanted to put real USGI grips on it but knock off grips on a GI clone seemed more fitting. One day I'll have a real USGI and I can worry about having all authentic parts for it.

I'll probably order the Auto Ordnance main spring housing for it so I can get rid of the ILS also.

James Dean
07-15-2010, 08:26
I also saw online that Colt made a run of around 4,000 1918 1911's? They cost around $1,000?

Todesengel
07-15-2010, 08:37
I've seen them for $850 at the gun show...need to get one!

bac1023
07-15-2010, 08:52
I also saw online that Colt made a run of around 4,000 1918 1911's? They cost around $1,000?

You mean the WWI reproduction? Yeah, I believe that's how many were built. I believe production has now stopped and I'm not sure if Colt has any left to sell.

I have a retro custom by Ted Yost at Heirloom Precision built on one of those.


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Todesengel
07-15-2010, 09:06
nice carpet!:tongueout:

bac1023
07-15-2010, 09:07
nice carpet!:tongueout:

Thanks! :rofl:

bac1023
07-15-2010, 09:15
I've seen them for $850 at the gun show...need to get one!

For a NIB WWI reproduction?

That's a great price, especially at a show.

Was it new or used?

Todesengel
07-15-2010, 10:14
For a NIB WWI reproduction?

That's a great price, especially at a show.

Was it new or used?

New Colt 01918.
New guns are cheaper at the shows then used ones. The small ffl dealers buy cheap & sell expensive. The Big 2 or 3 (most from Dallas / Ft. Worth) compete with each other.and sell NIB guns CHEAP!

bac1023
07-15-2010, 11:11
New Colt 01918.
New guns are cheaper at the shows then used ones. The small ffl dealers buy cheap & sell expensive. The Big 2 or 3 (most from Dallas / Ft. Worth) compete with each other.and sell NIB guns CHEAP!

That's a nice price for a new WWI repro.

samuse
07-15-2010, 20:13
I also saw online that Colt made a run of around 4,000 1918 1911's? They cost around $1,000?


Probably my favorite production gun ever. I would not buy one online. I wanted two of 'em and ended buying three trying to find a good one. My first one is excellent, nothing exceptional, just a nicely built 1911. The next two were a joke. Apparently Colt can't make a slide to save their lives.

bac1023
07-15-2010, 20:52
Probably my favorite production gun ever. I would not buy one online. I wanted two of 'em and ended buying three trying to find a good one. My first one is excellent, nothing exceptional, just a nicely built 1911. The next two were a joke. Apparently Colt can't make a slide to save their lives.

My friend Cobra64 bought one and it was very poor, so apparently, Colt has had some issues.

samuse
07-16-2010, 05:44
My friend Cobra64 bought one and it was very poor, so apparently, Colt has had some issues.


No doubt. I keep hearing that they're gonna start building their guns on new CNC machines and they're gonna be perfect, but I'm still seein' some duds show up at shops. I don't care if their price goes up, if they consistently produce a good gun, I'd probably consistently buy 'em.

Annoyedgrunt
07-16-2010, 19:25
My friend Cobra64 bought one and it was very poor, so apparently, Colt has had some issues.

Whew! Got lucky with mine, I suppose. It is admittedly a little sharp around the edges, but the fit and finish and machining make my Springfield Mil-Spec (an excellent pistol in its own right) seem like a pile of crap.

Been 100% flawless at the range, too.

jsimmons
07-21-2010, 15:46
Hi Guys. I don't own any 1911's, at this time. I use to own a Colt Gold Cup back in the 80s, and I sold it in the 90s. What do you guys think of the springfield GI? I really like the fact that it is what the made in WW2. I also really like the U.S. Grips. Does anyone have one. Pros and cons. Thanks Alex

I got the least expensive Springfield GI I could find ($489 new), and sent it to the Springfield Custom Shop for $500 worth of upgrades (for accuracy and reliability). I got back a custom gun that's more accurate than I am, and shoots better than most vault queens. Almost 1000 rounds through it since I bought it last year, and I haven't had a single issue with the pistol. I figure I spent my money more wisely because even the higher-priced Springfields (and other brands) aren't custom guns like mine.