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captdreifus
07-20-2010, 21:46
Ok,

So as you all know, I am a noob to 1911's. I have a hinker for a springer loaded. I know the two piece guide rod "may" come unscrewed while shooting. I also heard that it is a pita to assemble/disassemble a 1911 with a full length guide rod.

So here is my question. What do I need other than a GI guide rod? What size spring do I need? Can the one that comes with the springer fit with the GI style guide rod? Do I need any other parts to convert the FLGR to a GI style? Thanks all!

capt

CMG
07-21-2010, 00:31
The recoil spring is the same, all you'll need is a new guide rod and plug. I changed out the full-length on my Springfield TRP.

I get my parts at www.brownells.com

087-000-017 - Ed Brown Recoil spring plug

087-882-001 - Ed Brown recoil spring guide

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/TRPbefore.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/TRPafter.jpg

captdreifus
07-21-2010, 00:39
Thank you, thank you very much!

bac1023
07-21-2010, 04:27
Not all FLGRs are two piece either.

In fact, most are not.

ctfireman
07-21-2010, 04:44
I think the chance of it coming unscrewed while firing is slim.

bac1023
07-21-2010, 04:48
I think the chance of it coming unscrewed while firing is slim.

I never had an issue.

I actally like the two piece guide rods. :embarassed:

In fact, I specifically ordered my Pistol Dynamics with one.

38 Super Fan
07-21-2010, 09:39
I never had an issue.

I actally like the two piece guide rods. :embarassed:

In fact, I specifically ordered my Pistol Dynamics with one.
I concur, whats not to like?:supergrin:

bac1023
07-21-2010, 09:46
I concur, whats not to like?:supergrin:

:)

Don't get me wrong, I also like the GI setup.

My new custom from Mark Morris will have the standard setup. :)

Spiffums
07-21-2010, 12:27
I never had an issue.

I actally like the two piece guide rods. :embarassed:

In fact, I specifically ordered my Pistol Dynamics with one.


HEARSAY!!!

If JMB had wanted FLGR he would have designed it that way !!!!



Oh wait there is a FLGR in my Kimber ............... nvm.



My friend had the 2 pc in his SA. I can't say I care much for it. The only PITA that the FlGRs are is that you need to be really sure you have a grip on the plug.............BONG!!!!!!!!

remat
07-21-2010, 13:23
After being convinced by Ace Hindman I put a 2 piece Clark in my 45 Super. It spent years in there and I never had it back out even with the Super loads. However, eventually I got tired of checking it and having a wrench for disassembly I took it out. ZERO difference. I have not used one since.

CMG
07-21-2010, 14:02
...

I actally like the two piece guide rods. :embarassed:
...

Yes, but you also like unfinished (square) triggers! :whistling:

Must be a bad 'net influence, or something. :tongueout:

rsxr22
07-21-2010, 14:10
i personally dont think there is anything wrong with 2 piece rods either. I hear people talking all the time about they could come unscrewed, but i have never heard of one person saying this happened to them.
The only real advantage of the GI setup is being able to strip in the field without tools. More than the majority of shooters are just range shooters, so i dont see why this even plays into effect.

bac1023
07-21-2010, 14:52
Yes, but you also like unfinished (square) triggers! :whistling:

Must be a bad 'net influence, or something. :tongueout:

Hey, that's Quack that loves the square triggers. :tongueout:

I like them too, but my favorite is the short solid aluminum type. :cool:

Jager1
07-21-2010, 15:28
The recoil spring is the same, all you'll need is a new guide rod and plug. I changed out the full-length on my Springfield TRP.

I get my parts at www.brownells.com

087-000-017 - Ed Brown Recoil spring plug

087-882-001 - Ed Brown recoil spring guide



This.

CMG
07-21-2010, 15:48
Hey, that's Quack that loves the square triggers. :tongueout:

I like them too, but my favorite is the short solid aluminum type. :cool:

I was looking at your avatar. Quack is the bad influence. :rofl:

bac1023
07-21-2010, 15:52
I was looking at your avatar. Quack is the bad influence. :rofl:

True :cool:

That's an E-Trigger on my EGW. :)


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/019.jpg

Aiden
07-21-2010, 16:57
And once again, a thread is derailed by Bac's guns. :D

KillStick
07-21-2010, 17:15
i personally dont think there is anything wrong with 2 piece rods either. I hear people talking all the time about they could come unscrewed, but i have never heard of one person saying this happened to them.
The only real advantage of the GI setup is being able to strip in the field without tools. More than the majority of shooters are just range shooters, so i dont see why this even plays into effect.



Mine has came unscrewed during a range session, but that was 500 rounds later and it was no big deal as I take some tools to the range for a just in case situation. I wouldn't worry about them coming loose, it seems to take quite a bit more than the usual carry or if a self defense situation ever came up.

bac1023
07-21-2010, 17:37
And once again, a thread is derailed by Bac's guns. :D

:rofl:

Sorry :embarassed:

flynlead
07-22-2010, 21:16
I use my magazine to strip down. my bushing tool is still in the case. The takedown is just as easy as the original design this way.

DRAGON1970
07-22-2010, 22:44
Ok,

So as you all know, I am a noob to 1911's. I have a hinker for a springer loaded. I know the two piece guide rod "may" come unscrewed while shooting. I also heard that it is a pita to assemble/disassemble a 1911 with a full length guide rod.

So here is my question. What do I need other than a GI guide rod? What size spring do I need? Can the one that comes with the springer fit with the GI style guide rod? Do I need any other parts to convert the FLGR to a GI style? Thanks all!

capt

I say get rid of the two-piece rod. I have had one come loose on many occasions in IDPA and USPSA matches. However, if you only plan on Static shooting in a lane, then don't worry about it.

captdreifus
07-23-2010, 01:54
I say get rid of the two-piece rod. I have had one come loose on many occasions in IDPA and USPSA matches. However, if you only plan on Static shooting in a lane, then don't worry about it.


I plan on fighting zombies.














:tongueout:

Quack
07-23-2010, 10:31
Yes, but you also like unfinished (square) triggers! :whistling:

Must be a bad 'net influence, or something. :tongueout:

ROFL.


i don't my 2pc FLGR's. i think all of mine have them except for the KC and 1911-R1

and some flat trigger p0rn

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_2487.jpg

and one to grown on.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_3093.jpg

Jim S.
07-23-2010, 12:10
That's an E-Trigger on my EGW. :)

I thought you only liked 5" models???:tongueout:

CMG
07-23-2010, 15:42
ROFL.


i don't my 2pc FLGR's. i think all of mine have them except for the KC and 1911-R1

and some flat trigger p0rn

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_2487.jpg

and one to grown on.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_3093.jpg

MY EYES!!!

:tongueout:

Nice collection, Quack!

Jason D
07-23-2010, 16:00
I think the chance of it coming unscrewed while firing is slim.

They may under sustained firing.
I have had them loosen up in the first few rounds before, and had to tighten them up with a penny.


The advantage of the Springfield two piece guide rod is that you don't have to do anything. You can shoot it with the front half of the guide rod out of the gun. Personally, I didn't care to see the spring through the original guide plug. That's why I went with the GI set up. You could also just buy a GI plug, and use the rear portion of the two piece guide rod.

CAcop
07-24-2010, 12:25
I had a two piece rod that kept on coming unscrewed. Instead of tinkering with it I put the GI plug back in.

I just got an XSE with a once piece and I am not rushing to replace it. I am not thrilled with it either.

A coworker taught me his technique for disassembly of a gun with a one pice that was pretty cool. He just presses the plug down on the edge of a desck and turns the bushing. Beats the wrench or magazine tricks I was using.