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jmoln
07-23-2010, 08:30
You guys are so good at offering opinions that I thought this general 1911 forum would be the best place to post rather than a mfg specific 1911 forum.

I have a DW CBOB, love the way it shoots and handles but the weight and lack of an ambi safety is bothering me for carry. Range work, no problem. So, I was out to a gun shop recently and handled a Kimber Super Carry Pro. I'm impresed. Clean bobtail, crisp ambi safety that fit my hand, and due to the alloy frame much lighter for carry.

So, the question is this - should I add an ambi safety to my DW and suck it up on weight or trade for a Kimber?

What do you think?

Tactical black
07-23-2010, 08:48
I've only seen the Kimber Super Carry Pro in a gun shop and it's a super nice gun but for the money they want for it I would rather get a semi custom gun for that price. I don't mind the weight of the steel frame guns so out of those choices I would just add the ambi safety

awpk03s
07-23-2010, 09:15
I would NOT trade a DW for a Kimber.

GunFighter45ACP
07-23-2010, 09:40
I'd add the ambi safety to the DW & throw a few $$s towards a different holster & belt combo to help out w/the weight.

faawrenchbndr
07-23-2010, 09:41
I'd add the ambi safety to the DW & throw a few $$s towards a different holster & belt combo to help out w/the weight.

This,......as well as a bead blast job!

Quack
07-23-2010, 09:52
keep the DW.

BlayGlock
07-23-2010, 10:08
A good holster helps with the weight. I had Nighthawk build me a holster for my Predator II which weighs like about 38 oz. unloaded. The holster makes it comfortable to carry all day long.

Also an ambi-safety is cheap. I would stick with the DW and try that first. Only after not finding a comfortable holster would I trade if I still did not like the weight. Then you will have a good holster for the Super Carry anyway. Added bonus is that the DW will be more fun to shoot.

bklynpete
07-23-2010, 10:09
If the weight really is a big issue, I would try a better holster, belt combo like gunfighter45 suggested. Before I answered this post, I am carrying my Kimber Pro Carry in a M-tac holster with a beltman belt. I took out my Colt Government model, put in one of my loaded 8 round mags from my Kimber, and then put it in my holster. The Colt is about 8 oz heavier, but it really doesn't feel it at all. The M-tac just spreads the weight over a larger area. I'm sure the Supertuck does the same. I would just put on an ambi, and if you need a better holster setup, still cheaper then losing money on a really well made 1911 for another one. By the way, I'm 5'6" and 140 lbs, and I am wearing shorts and a polo shirt, nothing is printing with the Government model on my hip at 3 o'clock :cool:.
Pete

Hokie1911
07-23-2010, 10:23
Having fondled a SuperCarry Pro last month at a local shop, I'd say for the $1,299 they were asking....get some good leather, your ambi-safety and keep this...

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/cbobportsmall.jpg

Glocked-N-Loaded
07-23-2010, 11:32
I have both, DW CBOB and the SCP. I would not trade the CBOB for the SCP. The SCP is an absolutely beautiful weapon, lightweight, has been reliable in the initial range break-in, comparable recoil even with the heavier CBOB. The snake skin texture on it is great, nice additions like the snake skin on the MSH and the top of the slide. The SCP was well put together and felt good in the hand. The right side of the ambi safety was DOA but a quick call to Kimber and a new one is on the way. I still would not trade a CBOB for a SCP. A CBOB is a CBOB and since they are not being manufactured any longer the lustful drive others have to own one is ridiculous. I consider myself lucky to have one and will keep it always. Just do like I did, keep the CBOB and save for the SCP. I can take comparison photos side by side for you if you like and post the later, just tell me what shots you'd like to see.

jmoln
07-23-2010, 12:09
Thanks guys - your talking be back from the edge. I'm on the verge of letting my 1911's go and taking off in a different direction but this may stop it in its tracks. I'll do some heavy thinking this weekend about my collection, what I carry, where, why, and how.

BayouGlocker
07-23-2010, 14:42
Thanks guys - your talking be back from the edge. I'm on the verge of letting my 1911's go and taking off in a different direction but this may stop it in its tracks. I'll do some heavy thinking this weekend about my collection, what I carry, where, why, and how.


If you wanna let one or two go, I'll be more than happy to give one a good home! :thumbsup:

I read a prediction that in 10 years all the EDC pistols will follow the basic Glock style (XD, M&P, and so on...) and have red dot sights. I believe most will, but there will always be a place for the 1911 in some of our holsters.

GAFinch
07-23-2010, 21:35
How much grip comfort do these bobtailed guns sacrifice for range use?

Quack
07-23-2010, 21:57
How much grip comfort do these bobtailed guns sacrifice for range use?

i don't notice a difference between the bobtail and non-bobbed guns.

Tejasshooter
07-23-2010, 22:21
I only have one thing to say "If you carry...then get rid of the ambi safety"

rsxr22
07-23-2010, 22:39
i agree on the above post. If you are using your gun for carry an ambi safety is unnecessary. Without one, you have no problems, with one you run the risk of a malfunction happening when trying to disengage. While i have never seen or heard it happen besides to people on some forums, i still wouldnt risk it if i was going to carry

Keep the DW

Tejasshooter
07-23-2010, 22:52
When you truly carry every day...you realize the an ambi safety is honestly the opposite of safe. Counter tops, ect will push your smoke waggon off safe.

Quack
07-23-2010, 22:54
the OP might be a lefty, so he may need an ambi.

knedrgr
07-23-2010, 23:04
God forbid one would ever have to operate a 1911 with the support hand. :rolleyes:

And I too would keep the CBOB.

glock2740
07-23-2010, 23:34
Here's a Kimber that I would take over either mentioned above...:cool:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/PCII4.jpg

brzusa.1911
07-23-2010, 23:35
I am left hand as well, and while I have no problems operating the safety with my left index, I prefer the ambisafety hands down. All three of my 1911s have it. On my CBOB I installed an EB myself - $55 for the safety, $5 for a set of #2 files.

Hokie1911
07-24-2010, 14:03
Here's a Kimber that I would take over either mentioned above...:cool:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/PCII4.jpg

Ummmm a Chuck Rogers loved on Kimber wasn't one of the choices. Jerk. :tongueout:

Cobra64
07-24-2010, 14:16
the OP might be a lefty, so he may need an ambi.

Yup, like this on a custom Valor.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Valor/Right06.jpg



http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Valor/Bobtail01.jpg



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jmoln
07-25-2010, 19:53
How much grip comfort do these bobtailed guns sacrifice for range use?

None whatsoever. If you've ever held a bobtail grip its hard to go back to a standard frame. IMHO if there is anything wrong with the original 1911 design it is the squared off frame. The bobtail enhances grip and control.

As for the ambi safety, yes I am a lefty.

SDGlock23
07-26-2010, 06:42
I have several DW's, including a CBOB and I do have a Kimber Super Carry Custom. I will say that for a Kimber, the Super Carry series is very nice, and the nicest Kimber I've ever handled/owned. With that being said, I would get rid of the Super Carry before I would ever get rid of my CBOB, or any DW for that matter.

faawrenchbndr
07-26-2010, 07:20
Here's a Kimber that I would take over either mentioned above...:cool:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/PCII4.jpg

Show off,......:tongueout:

Hokie1911
07-26-2010, 07:37
Show off,......:tongueout:

Just wait until he gets his CDP and Ultra back. Then we have to sit through constant "Chuck Family Photos". Ugh. The horror. :tongueout:

faawrenchbndr
07-26-2010, 08:32
How right you are,......but, I never get tired of looking at a sweet 1911.

I may have a few plans for the SIS Ultra,......if I keep it.:whistling:

Hokie1911
07-26-2010, 08:37
How right you are,......but, I never get tired of looking at a sweet 1911.

I may have a few plans for the SIS Ultra,......if I keep it.:whistling:

Well, seeing pics of Joe's was the reason I sent mine to Chuck. :whistling:

I hear you on the SIS.....+$250 is so tempting. What can that turn into....hmmmmm.

fasteddie565
10-09-2010, 17:01
I traded some older kimbers for an Super Carry Ultra and Super Carry Custom and wics I had waited for the Pro. The 5" Super Carry Custom is a dream to shoot and has operated flawlessly with over 500rds of Blazer Al Ammo.

The Ultra is a piece of Dog Dirt. I traded a tricked out Ultra CDP II for it than ran flawlessly. Not my smartest move

The slide locks to the rear with ammo in the mag, at least every other mag. I taped my self to make sure I was not thumbing the slide lock.

Somethinig is definitely wrong with this "Custom Gun"

Keep the CBOB. While I hope the Pro runs more like the Custom than the Ultra, Maybe I will get a DW instead.

bac1023
10-09-2010, 17:51
I wish the Super Carry would be offered with a steel frame. :sigh:

airflyer
10-09-2010, 19:02
I love my super carry have 750 rounds been great, carry every day but finish kimpro black scratches easy . If you are OCD about finish on carry gun not the best choice but price is right for features in my opinion ,very accurate gun compared even to my other semi customs good luck with your decision

bac1023
10-09-2010, 19:04
I love my super carry have 750 rounds been great, carry every day but finish kimpro black scratches easy . If you are OCD about finish on carry gun not the best choice but price is right for features in my opinion ,very accurate gun compared even to my other semi customs good luck with your decision


You aren't considering the Super Carry a semi-custom are you? :dunno:

Anyway, glad it works well for you. I've had great luck with my Kimbers as well. :)

airflyer
10-09-2010, 19:28
No my les baers and rock river fall in that category but it is a nice production gun that has some nice features for the price point I think
Bob tail grip, series one safty, no plastic msh and nite sights comfortable gun for long days carry due to alloy frame mine is a carry pro comander size I don't like the smaller ultra due to track record of many ultra size carry 45s

bac1023
10-09-2010, 19:52
No my les baers and rock river fall in that category but it is a nice production gun that has some nice features for the price point I think


Oh, I agree.

I'm a big fan of Kimbers. I carry one daily, in fact, with the Pro CDP.

asiparks
10-09-2010, 20:14
I am left hand as well, and while I have no problems operating the safety with my left index, I prefer the ambisafety hands down. All three of my 1911s have it. On my CBOB I installed an EB myself - $55 for the safety, $5 for a set of #2 files.

^ this ^
I'm like a drunken monkey with tools, but I did mine ok: :whistling:
http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100355/IMG_0943/web.jpg

bac1023
10-09-2010, 20:21
Looks nice.

knedrgr
10-09-2010, 21:12
I'm like a drunken monkey with tools

:rofl:

cole
10-09-2010, 23:28
IMO, Kimbers are $700-$900 guns, and I'll buy gently used to get more gun. Over that price, and IMO there are better options. So, the DW no question at that price. However, the CDP Compact would be my ideal 1911 CCW.

BigLaw
10-10-2010, 06:20
I have the CBOB and a SCP. I carry the Kimber every day off duty. I've owned 6 different Kimbers and the SCP is the best of them. They seem to be fitted better and I like the more rounded bobtail. I will agree the DW is a more solid gun because its all steel and has better parts, but I carry the Kimber more. I don't like the ambi safety and will end up getting a single.

GOOFA
11-07-2010, 00:55
DW and Kimber shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence, period. I own two Kimber Ultras and when I carry, one or the other is always with me. I own two DW's and like both for different reasons. I just wanted to mention one item here about the new Super Pro Carry from Kimber. A great loking piece and I would have been a buyer at $1225 but I felt Kimber really dropped the ball with their so called "Super Carry Serations", a friggin joke, they are invisible to the hand and do absolutely nothing. Just imagine if I were a Kimber basher.:dunno:

glock2740
11-07-2010, 02:42
I only have one thing to say "If you carry...then get rid of the ambi safety"
Ditto that.

When you truly carry every day...you realize the an ambi safety is honestly the opposite of safe. Counter tops, ect will push your smoke waggon off safe.
Amen brother.

the OP might be a lefty, so he may need an ambi.

That's the ONLY reason to have an ambi. Period.

glock2740
11-07-2010, 02:47
I have the CBOB and a SCP. I carry the Kimber every day off duty. I've owned 6 different Kimbers and the SCP is the best of them. They seem to be fitted better and I like the more rounded bobtail. I will agree the DW is a more solid gun because its all steel and has better parts, but I carry the Kimber more. I don't like the ambi safety and will end up getting a single.
I'm just glad to hear that you got rid of that POS Colt Commander you had. What a hunk of junk that was. :rofl:BTW, I love that gun and am CC'ing it as I type. :thumbsup:

glock2740
11-07-2010, 02:52
Just wait until he gets his CDP and Ultra back. Then we have to sit through constant "Chuck Family Photos". Ugh. The horror. :tongueout:
These?:dunno:...


http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/6z.jpg


http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/4z.jpg


http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/2z.jpg


http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/1z.jpg

asiparks
11-09-2010, 00:51
I just picked up a very slightly used,( 50rnds), 5" Super Carry for a ****s and giggles price.

http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100347/DSCN0589/web.jpg

http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100347/DSCN0592/web.jpg

http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100347/DSCN0566/web.jpg

http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100347/DSCN0586/web.jpg

It thoroughly re-enforced my conviction that you should get a CBOB or VBOB.
The Kimber has lots of "features" but side by side, the quality of the Dan Wesson (and mines an older '06) shines through.

bac1023
11-09-2010, 04:22
Kimber needs to offer that gun with a steel frame though.