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38 Super Fan
07-26-2010, 18:33
I've been looking for another really nice 1911 and I was curious as to how good the STI brand is. I've heard very good things, so I thought I'd ask some guys who have shot them. I think I like their Trojan best, I see the prices aren't too bad, how do they compare with Les Baer, or some of the other top quality 1911s?

rsxr22
07-26-2010, 18:57
STI imo is up there with the best production 1911's out there. The Trojan is an amazing gun and very well built. Even there low line spartan is built exceptionally well. I feel that the best production 1911 out there is the Springer TRP and the STI Trojan comes in second.
They have good CS and just flat out work. The TRP and Trojan are built like rocks, i just like the extreme checkering on the TRP a little better. You would definitely be well served with a Trojan. Just like the condoms, they work 99.9% of the time!

RH45
07-26-2010, 19:02
I own an Ed Brown,Colt,Les Baer, Wilson, Smith & Wesson, Sig, Glock, Kimber, and 8 STIs.

I like the STIs better than the rest.

Texas Bulldog
07-26-2010, 19:03
My Trojan 6.0 9mm is the most accurate gun i own. It outshoots my dan wessons, Fusion, Springfields, kimbers, nighthawk, wilson and brown.

Some of those get awfully close but it blows my mind that a used STI Trojan that i spent $700 out shoots guns i paid 3x more for. the fit/finish isn't as amazing as my Brown, Wilson or Fusion but its still very nice.. Id rather have a more accurate dependable gun over a super tight show piece.

The only gun ive put on a stand that out shot my Trojan was a Les Baer with the 1.5 option.

I love those Baer's and will get one soon, but these STI's are just amazing... nwo if they would do one without the roll mark it would be perfect! hehehe

glock2740
07-26-2010, 19:06
I hope they are badass, because I recently bought a NIB Legacy off of gunbroker and it's waiting on me to get back to Arkansas to pick it up. My FFL did tell me that it was one of the nicest guns he had seen or handled in a long time. I told him to put it back in the box and put it in the safe and keep his hands off of it. :rofl:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/Legacyleft2.jpg

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/Legacyleft.jpg

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/STI_005.jpg

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/STI_002.jpg

txleapd
07-26-2010, 19:08
Every 1911 (and 2011) I own is an STI... So I'm biased. I also live in Georgetown, so I'm doubly biased.

Get yourself and STI, and you won't regret it.

Quack
07-26-2010, 19:17
crappy :animlol:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_2344.jpg

glock2740
07-26-2010, 19:18
I own an Ed Brown,Colt,Les Baer, Wilson, Smith & Wesson, Sig, Glock, Kimber, and 8 STIs.

I like the STIs better than the rest.

My Trojan 6.0 9mm is the most accurate gun i own. It outshoots my dan wessons, Fusion, Springfields, kimbers, nighthawk, wilson and brown.

Some of those get awfully close but it blows my mind that a used STI Trojan that i spent $700 out shoots guns i paid 3x more for. the fit/finish isn't as amazing as my Brown, Wilson or Fusion but its still very nice.. Id rather have a more accurate dependable gun over a super tight show piece.

The only gun ive put on a stand that out shot my Trojan was a Les Baer with the 1.5 option.

I love those Baer's and will get one soon, but these STI's are just amazing... nwo if they would do one without the roll mark it would be perfect! hehehe
Well, I have to say that those endorsements sound pretty good to me. :supergrin:

Quack
07-26-2010, 19:33
though it's a 9mm here is an article between the 9mm Trojan and a Springfield Custom Shop gun

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_174_29/ai_n8968397/

WellArmedSheep
07-26-2010, 19:44
I love my 9mm Trojan. It's an awesome gun for the money.

rsxr22
07-26-2010, 19:52
sounds like a unanimous decision for the Trojan!

Texas Bulldog
07-26-2010, 20:10
sounds like a unanimous decision for the Trojan!

The Trojan is an amazing deal out there.... I do love the font they used on that Legacy :cool:

bac1023
07-26-2010, 20:59
STI makes outstanding 1911s. I have a few.

Here's my Trojan and Legacy.


http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4463/0001686fc0.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5629/0001690ud9.jpg








http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_1755.jpg

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_1757.jpg

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/004-16.jpg

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/002-21.jpg

Trey83
07-26-2010, 21:45
I LOVE my Trojan and can't wait to get it back. I am one of the few that has had a problem, but I'm not that concerned with it. I will probably get another Trojan in 9mm longslide at some point.



http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq301/whitestang04/New/random%20stuff/DSC_1729-1.jpg

WellArmedSheep
07-26-2010, 21:48
Since we've started posting pics of our Trojans:

(Coming soon- Dawson Precision no gap ICE Magwell and basepads)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/scrcteach/Shooting/IMG_8352.jpg

Trey83
07-26-2010, 22:15
Does anyone have experience with the Sentinel Premier or any of STI custom shop guns? If so how do they rank against the likes of Brown and Baer?

Hoser
07-26-2010, 22:21
I have a bunch of their fat guns and a few single stacks.

Good stuff.

bac1023
07-27-2010, 04:19
Does anyone have experience with the Sentinel Premier or any of STI custom shop guns? If so how do they rank against the likes of Brown and Baer?

The Legacy ranks up there with with the Sentinel. It just doesn't have all of the its features. They're great 1911s.

glock2740
07-27-2010, 06:49
Does anyone have experience with the Sentinel Premier or any of STI custom shop guns? If so how do they rank against the likes of Brown and Baer?
The SP is a beauty. Especially when it's hardchromed.

glock2740
07-27-2010, 06:52
The Legacy ranks up there with with the Sentinel. It just doesn't have all of the its features. They're great 1911s.
Mine's gonna have those features, plus one:cool:(magwell, flush crown and hardchrome, minus the FCS):cool: I'm also going to put a fiber optic front sight on the Legacy and am thinking pretty hard about removing the ambi-safety as well.

38 Super Fan
07-27-2010, 09:40
I hope they are badass, because I recently bought a NIB Legacy off of gunbroker and it's waiting on me to get back to Arkansas to pick it up. My FFL did tell me that it was one of the nicest guns he had seen or handled in a long time. I told him to put it back in the box and put it in the safe and keep his hands off of it. :rofl:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/Legacyleft2.jpg

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/Legacyleft.jpg

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/STI_005.jpg

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/STI_002.jpg
Thats really nice Glock2740, thanks for sharing. I think I'll consider a legacy now, I like those slide markings WAY better than the Trojan's.

Quack
07-27-2010, 09:44
MThats really nice Glock2740, thanks for sharing. I think I'll consider a legacy now, I like those slide markings WAY better than the Trojan's.

Good luck, you're going to have to search for a Legacy since they've been out of production for about 3 years now.

38 Super Fan
07-27-2010, 09:55
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Good luck, you're going to have to search for a Legacy since they've been out of production for about 3 years now.
Thanks for the heads up...that explains why I haven't seen one.:supergrin:

OrangeDonkey
07-27-2010, 10:14
How much does the Legacy go for these days?

38 Super Fan
07-27-2010, 12:24
So I wouldn't regret getting rid of my Kimber CDP in order to obtain a Trojan?

glock2740
07-27-2010, 12:48
How much does the Legacy go for these days?
http://v2.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=178092435

That's how much that one went for. I didn't want to hassle with bidding on a gun that I've wanted since before they quit making, so I called and said I'll take it! :supergrin:

Hokie1911
07-27-2010, 12:54
http://v2.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=178092435

That's how much that one went for. I didn't want to hassle with bidding on a gun that I've wanted since before they quit making, so I called and said I'll take it! :supergrin:

Dude, that was a freaking score for $1,550. :thumbsup:

You're having a hell of a good summer. Legacy, your CDP and Ultra back from Chuck, and that GI awesomeness that is on the way.

glock2740
07-27-2010, 14:48
Dude, that was a freaking score for $1,550. :thumbsup:

You're having a hell of a good summer. Legacy, your CDP and Ultra back from Chuck, and that GI awesomeness that is on the way.
Hey, don't sell my summer short. You forgot the Wilson CQB. :tongueout:
Thanks Hokie. This summer has been a pretty good one to say the least.

Hokie1911
07-27-2010, 14:56
Hey, don't sell my summer short. You forgot the Wilson CQB. :tongueout:
Thanks Hokie. This summer has been a pretty good one to say the least.

I knew I was forgetting something....couldn't remember what it was. :whistling:

bac1023
07-27-2010, 17:41
The SP is a beauty. Especially when it's hardchromed.

Yeah, but I like the Legacy better. The SP's styling is more STI-like. The Legacy is actually the only STI with real classic looks, in my opinion.

Quality of the two is the same. They both use STI's best components. :)

glock2740
07-27-2010, 17:53
I've always thought that the Legacy was STI's best looking gun. The SP is as close a second as they make though. But the Legacy is alot cleaner looking.

bac1023
07-27-2010, 18:07
I've always thought that the Legacy was STI's best looking gun. The SP is as close a second as they make though. But the Legacy is alot cleaner looking.

Yeah, the SP is certainly my 2nd favorite. I just love the Legacy, because its really STI's only "clean" 1911, in my opinion. Its beautiful. :)

Hokie1911
07-27-2010, 18:14
Yeah, the SP is certainly my 2nd favorite. I just love the Legacy, because its really STI's only "clean" 1911, in my opinion. Its beautiful. :)

:agree:

bac1023
07-27-2010, 18:16
...and just think, they stopped building it. :steamed::crying:

Does that make any sense? :headscratch: :dunno:

I guess it wasn't selling, due to its price and the simple fact that it wasn't a traditional STI. Its different from all the others.

Hokie1911
07-27-2010, 18:19
...and just think, they stopped building it. :steamed::crying:

Does that make any sense? :headscratch: :dunno:

I guess it wasn't selling, due to its price and the simple fact that it wasn't a traditional STI. Its different from all the others.

Guess they decided to focus on making these instead. :whistling:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f245/amgguy/size-7php-2.jpg

Foxtrotx1
07-27-2010, 18:27
Sexually transmitted infections are usually not good.

38 Super Fan
07-27-2010, 18:34
Yeah, but I like the Legacy better. The SP's styling is more STI-like. The Legacy is actually the only STI with real classic looks, in my opinion.

Quality of the two is the same. They both use STI's best components. :)
You're right the Legacy is unusually classic looking compared to all the other STIs I've seen. Also, Bac I have a question that you could probably put in perspective for me. How does your Trojan and Legacy compare to your RRA Limited Match? I know thats an odd question but the only really nice 1911 I own is my Basic Limted RRA, so thats kinda what I know.

bac1023
07-27-2010, 20:10
You're right the Legacy is unusually classic looking compared to all the other STIs I've seen. Also, Bac I have a question that you could probably put in perspective for me. How does your Trojan and Legacy compare to your RRA Limited Match? I know thats an odd question but the only really nice 1911 I own is my Basic Limted RRA, so thats kinda what I know.

The RRA is better for sure, but STIs (even the Legacy) are production based guns. They're very nice for the money, but the RRA is a big step up.

In fact, I'd put the Limited Match up against anything, including $5000 custom guns.

Its that good. :cool:


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_1724s.jpg

glock2740
07-27-2010, 20:20
You're right the Legacy is unusually classic looking compared to all the other STIs I've seen. Also, Bac I have a question that you could probably put in perspective for me. How does your Trojan and Legacy compare to your RRA Limited Match? I know thats an odd question but the only really nice 1911 I own is my Basic Limted RRA, so thats kinda what I know.
Well, that isn't a bad nice 1911 to own for sure.

glock2740
07-27-2010, 20:22
The RRA is better for sure, but STIs (even the Legacy) are production based guns. They're very nice for the money, but the RRA is a big step up.

In fact, I'd put the Limited Match up against anything, including $5000 custom guns.

Its that good. :cool:


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_1724s.jpg
Swap you another Legacy for that...:whistling:

bac1023
07-27-2010, 20:30
Swap you another Legacy for that...:whistling:

LOL!

What's cool about the Limited Match nis that its as rare as the Legacy and neither gun is built anymore.

bac1023
07-27-2010, 20:33
Hey, don't sell my summer short. You forgot the Wilson CQB. :tongueout:
Thanks Hokie. This summer has been a pretty good one to say the least.

Joe, you had a hell of a 1911 summer and its not over yet. At the end of it, we'll have to compare summer 1911s. :supergrin:

Yours are certainly comparable to what I took in this summer. I'm still waiting for my Morris, which will top of an awesome run of 1911s for me this season.

James picked up a few himself. :cool:

glock2740
07-27-2010, 20:51
Joe, you had a hell of a 1911 summer and its not over yet. At the end of it, we'll have to compare summer 1911s. :supergrin:

Yours are certainly comparable to what I took in this summer. I'm still waiting for my Morris, which will top of an awesome run of 1911s for me this season.

James picked up a few himself. :cool:
Yes indeed, it's been a great 1911 summer for sure. I can't wait to see that Morris. I would like to top my run off with a stainless TRP. If Dave doesn't quit ordering cool stuff, I'll end up with another Wilson. :rofl:He's already got me wanting a cool CQB Compact that would be a twin of my new CQB. :whistling: But, he's kinda got his eye on it to, so maybe he'll keep it for himself. I told him that if he still had it in September, I might be really tempted. I know I can always find a stainless TRP, but man I love those things.

bac1023
07-27-2010, 20:53
Yes indeed, it's been a great 1911 summer for sure. I can't wait to see that Morris. I would like to top my run off with a stainless TRP. If Dave doesn't quit ordering cool stuff, I'll end up with another Wilson. :rofl:He's already got me wanting a cool CQB Compact that would be a twin of my new CQB. :whistling: But, he's kinda got his eye on it to, so maybe he'll keep it for himself. I told him that if he still had it in September, I might be really tempted. I know I can always find a stainless TRP, but man I love those things.

The stainless TRP is a great model. :cool:

38 Super Fan
07-27-2010, 21:24
The RRA is better for sure, but STIs (even the Legacy) are production based guns. They're very nice for the money, but the RRA is a big step up.

In fact, I'd put the Limited Match up against anything, including $5000 custom guns.

Its that good. :cool:


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_1724s.jpg
Thanks bac,:bowdown: that gives me some perspective. It sounds like STIs are great for the money, and I love that hard chrome Trojan.

crazymoose
07-28-2010, 02:30
I've never cared for the aesthetics of STI's pistols at all- lots of ball-cut slides, unattractive cocking serrations, huge lettering on the slides. Still, STI is quite possibly my favorite builder of 1911's. Why? Because functionally speaking, they are phenomenally well-made guns. Good barrels, excellent fire control parts, and barrel to slide and slide to frame fitting as tight as that you'll find on any 1911.
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bac1023
07-28-2010, 04:19
I've never cared for the aesthetics of STI's pistols at all- lots of ball-cut slides, unattractive cocking serrations, huge lettering on the slides. Still, STI is quite possibly my favorite builder of 1911's. Why? Because functionally speaking, they are phenomenally well-made guns. Good barrels, excellent fire control parts, and barrel to slide and slide to frame fitting as tight as that you'll find on any 1911.
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The Legacy has the more traditional looks, rather than STI looks.

glock2740
07-28-2010, 09:32
I've never cared for the aesthetics of STI's pistols at all- lots of ball-cut slides, unattractive cocking serrations, huge lettering on the slides.
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I agree with that statement about most STI's but the Legacy is, or at least was, the sole exception to the rule.

Hokie1911
07-28-2010, 09:42
I agree with that statement about most STI's but the Legacy is, or at least was, the sole exception to the rule.

Sad too, because hands down, it's the best looking pistol they've made.

Quack
07-28-2010, 09:43
i think the girly Legacy rollmark calls for some pink grips :rofl:

Hokie1911
07-28-2010, 09:48
i think the girly Legacy rollmark calls for some pink grips :rofl:

You and your pink grips again... :rofl:

glock2740
07-28-2010, 13:58
i think the girly Legacy rollmark calls for some pink grips :rofl:
And a flat trigger too? :whistling:

:rofl:

Quack
07-28-2010, 14:36
No, that would be a short trigger for the girlie hands.

crazymoose
07-28-2010, 15:14
The Legacy has the more traditional looks, rather than STI looks.

Which is probably why they canned it! :supergrin:
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bac1023
07-28-2010, 17:54
Sad too, because hands down, it's the best looking pistol they've made.

By far :supergrin:

bac1023
07-28-2010, 17:54
i think the girly Legacy rollmark calls for some pink grips :rofl:

:rofl:

Shooter32
07-29-2010, 15:28
Bac i love this that Legacy !!! But i think the world of my Trojan it is my new IDPA ESP gun and i could not ask for more !!! :wavey:

Bummer i was going to post the pics and they are to big ...:crying:

bac1023
07-29-2010, 17:39
Bac i love this that Legacy !!! But i think the world of my Trojan it is my new IDPA ESP gun and i could not ask for more !!! :wavey:

Bummer i was going to post the pics and they are to big ...:crying:

Thanks.

The Trojan doesn't have all of the Legacy's components, such as a forged frame, but I think it shoots just as well.

Pics are easy to shink, by the way. ;)

Glock1911
07-29-2010, 18:18
The only STI I've ever had was cured by penicillin.

Seriously, the only STI I've owned was an LS. It was not very impressive, other than it's small size for CCW. It was not a reliable firearm and didn't feed consistently. Terrible gun, but I blame that more on the size of the gun. Nobody's mini 1911 seems to work very well.

bac1023
07-29-2010, 18:21
The only STI I've ever had was cured by penicillin.

Seriously, the only STI I've owned was an LS. It was not very impressive, other than it's small size for CCW. It was not a reliable firearm and didn't feed consistently. Terrible gun, but I blame that more on the size of the gun. Nobody's mini 1911 seems to work very well.

The LS is not a mini 1911.

It uses a totally different frame.

98_1LE
07-29-2010, 20:58
I am very happy with my STI Escort 3" pistol. Accurate, light, reliable, fair priced, made in Texas and good looking.

Glock1911
07-30-2010, 15:48
The LS is not a mini 1911.

It uses a totally different frame.

Regardless of what it was, or wasn't, it wasn't very impressive.

38 Super Fan
07-30-2010, 15:50
How does an STI stack up against a Kimber? The prices are pretty similar.

Quack
07-30-2010, 15:53
STI's (IMO) are better than Kimber's.

DHart
07-31-2010, 06:02
I am very impressed with my Edge. Slide to frame feel is amazing, trigger pull, reliability and capacity are all superb. It's a little much gun for concealed carry, but as a home/RV defense gun, it's top shelf. 17 rounds of .40 in a 1911-design is quite nice.

The really nice thing about the Edge is the total weight and the full length dust cover makes shooting forty caliber feel like you're shooting a 9mm, with very fast return to follow up shots.

I installed a single sided thumb safety (don't like ambis) and a front tritium night sight. Rebuilt mags with Bevans followers & springs for higher capacity. Shooting this gun feels like you're shooting a gun built by Rolls Royce... luxurious!

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/STI%20Edge/Edge_1284.jpg

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/STI%20Edge/Edge_1289.jpg

glock2740
07-31-2010, 06:19
I am very impressed with my Edge. Slide to frame feel is amazing, trigger pull, reliability and capacity are all superb. It's a little much gun for concealed carry, but as a home/RV defense gun, it's top shelf. 17 rounds of .40 in a 1911-design is quite nice.

The really nice thing about the Edge is the total weight and the full length dust cover makes shooting forty caliber feel like you're shooting a 9mm, with very fast return to follow up shots.

I installed a single sided thumb safety (don't like ambis) and a front tritium night sight. Rebuilt mags with Bevans followers & springs for higher capacity. Shooting this gun feels like you're shooting a gun built by Rolls Royce... luxurious!

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/STI%20Edge/Edge_1284.jpg

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/STI%20Edge/Edge_1289.jpg
Very nice. :thumbsup:

MoBill
07-31-2010, 08:51
I am very happy with my STI Escort 3" pistol. Accurate, light, reliable, fair priced, made in Texas and good looking.

Me too.

http://www.solutionm.com/pics/escort.jpg

bac1023
07-31-2010, 19:30
How does an STI stack up against a Kimber? The prices are pretty similar.

STI's (IMO) are better than Kimber's.

They're very different. I'll give STI a slight edge, but I do like Kimbers quite a bit. The Kimber Super Match is very nice.

Johan Beer
07-31-2010, 19:37
I had an STI Trojan, it was a nice gun. In 2600+- rounds it had two hiccups. One was an obviously out of spec round that got stuck in the barrel , and the other was the last round on a crappy mag.

For the price range I would call it a "best buy" for sure.

bac1023
07-31-2010, 19:40
I had an STI Trojan, it was a nice gun. In 2600+- rounds it had two hiccups. One was an obviously out of spec round that got stuck in the barrel , and the other was the last round on a crappy mag.

For the price range I would call it a "best buy" for sure.

I think the Trojan is the best $1000-$1100 1911 on the market.

DHart
07-31-2010, 19:41
How does an STI stack up against a Kimber? The prices are pretty similar.

STI's customer service makes Kimber's look like no service at all. If you have running problems with a new Kimber they will tell you to shoot 500 rounds through it to try to see if that works out the problem. They call it a "break in". If a 1911 doesn't run pretty much flawlessly after the first couple of magazines, it wasn't put together properly in the first place and it's not your job to have to waste 500 rounds trying to see if you can somehow "work it out". And Kimber won't pay for those 500 rounds of ammo - you do! And if you do have reliability issues, working your way through those 500 rounds will seem like an endless nightmare. I've had enough dealings with Kimber's customer service back and forth and back and forth, with just two guns, to last me a lifetime. No more, thanks.

A customer service issue I had with my STI resulted in a call tag and a complete turnaround of the gun, back to me in 1 week running flawlessly. And they were exceptionally nice to work with.

STI's guns don't have the jimmy-cracker "Series II" FP safety mechanism.

I would choose an STI over a Kimber anyday. I've owned five Kimbers and now only own three older (pre-series II) Kimbers.

Not to say that there aren't some great running Kimbers out there, because there are. But when it comes to working with the customer, STI wins. And if you want a simple design without FP gizmos hacked into the 1911 design, Kimber only offers 1 model like that which I'm aware of (Warrior). Any Kimber that has a "II" at the end of the name have the FP gizmos. You can pull the FP guts out, but I'd prefer to not have them in there in the first place.

38 Super Fan
07-31-2010, 21:00
Lots of good info, thanks guys. I was amazed with the article that Quack posted a link to. 2" groups at 50 yards with a $1100 pistol? Wow! Theres a good chance I'm going with an STI Trojan as my next 1911.

Quack
07-31-2010, 21:16
Lots of good info, thanks guys. I was amazed with the article that Quack posted a link to. 2" groups at 50 yards with a $1100 pistol? Wow! Theres a good chance I'm going with an STI Trojan as my next 1911.

there are people on TOS that say their Trojan shoots just as well as their Baer with 1.5" guarantee.

DHart
07-31-2010, 21:39
STI is a much smaller outfit than Kimber. Kimber is a monstrosity just spitting out guns like candy, seemingly without a lot of attention to QC. Kimber does, on the other hand, pay a lot of attention to glitz, glam, bling, and marketing pazzazz. They know how to suck in the masses!

STI, on the other hand, is a MUCH smaller outfit with much more attention focused on the guns and build quality. STI builds a very high quality 1911/2011 indeed!

ROGER4314
07-31-2010, 23:06
I have an STI Lawman that is superb in every way! It cuts a ragged one hole group and since I've dealt with their customer service folks on a minor issue with the pistol (loose ejector), their customer centered attitude is absolutely the best! Great gun! Great folks!

Flash

bac1023
08-01-2010, 09:25
STI is a much smaller outfit than Kimber.


Very true. STI is especially small, but most 1911 companies are dwarfed my Kimber. I believe they are the largest by a good margin.

CU4X4N
08-01-2010, 17:44
I love my STI Spartan!

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww360/cu4x4n/Photos/Cache/NP3STISpartan-1.jpg

bac1023
08-01-2010, 20:41
I love my STI Spartan!

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww360/cu4x4n/Photos/Cache/NP3STISpartan-1.jpg

Where have you been 4x4? :dunno:

I haven't seen that NP3ed Spartan for a while now. ;)

glock2740
08-01-2010, 21:29
I love my STI Spartan!

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww360/cu4x4n/Photos/Cache/NP3STISpartan-1.jpg
Good looking gun. :thumbsup:

tx787
08-02-2010, 21:49
I live very near their HQ and have been thinking about getting one. Do they accept walk in service a la Glock if there are any issues?

BTW I have an entry level Kimber and it runs great.

CU4X4N
08-03-2010, 01:26
Where have you been 4x4? :dunno:

I haven't seen that NP3ed Spartan for a while now. ;)

I'm actually honored that you noticed I've been absent.

Unfortunately I've been doing contract work in Cali for the last year, so not much shooting for me.

And I've shifted hobbies to cars again so I haven't been focused on firearms as of late.

I'm still lurking and throwing my $.02 in every once and a while. (More so in GNG)

bac1023
08-03-2010, 04:06
I'm actually honored that you noticed I've been absent.

Unfortunately I've been doing contract work in Cali for the last year, so not much shooting for me.

And I've shifted hobbies to cars again so I haven't been focused on firearms as of late.

I'm still lurking and throwing my $.02 in every once and a while. (More so in GNG)

Glad all is well. :)