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HOGUEMEISTER
07-28-2010, 20:05
I currently shoot a 45 cal. and have been happy for years. What are your thoughts on the 40 cal.? Any comparison on speed, take down, etc?

Thanks for the info.

Hoguemeister :beer:

BadAndy
07-29-2010, 06:05
Only advantage I see is that .40 comes in a smaller package that is easier for people with smaller hands to control and higher capacity than comparably sized .45s.

Aside from that, seems that a lot of people (including myself) find the recoil of .45s more manageable than .40. To me, the .40 feels snappier and it's a bit slower getting back on target.

I'll stick with my 9s :)

ldrichard
07-29-2010, 07:39
I own both calibers in HK USPc pistols.

The .40 is definitely more snappy than the .45, and the .45 definitely has a larger grip circumference than the .40.

The .40 is more comfortable to hold, but the .45 is more comfortable to shoot. I take both to the range.

I carry a gun to protect my family, not to just hold it. So I carry the .45 since, at least for me, it is easier to manage.

DerekL
07-29-2010, 07:42
If grip size isn't a factor I love my G30 it's much more managable than a .40 in the same size. IMHO.

DonGlock26
07-29-2010, 10:17
The difference for me is double stack in 40 & single stack in 45.

woncrzymof0
07-29-2010, 10:43
I do not own a .45 yet. Main reason is the price difference. I cannot justify shooting .45 at the range all the time. Even if I reloaded it, it's expensive.

Will have one in the future though.

Glockdude1
07-29-2010, 10:52
I shoot both the .40 and the .45 equally well, but the .40 is my favorite caliber. You get the speed of a 9mm with the hitting power of a .45.

Win win for the .40.

:thumbsup:

rome2240sw
07-29-2010, 10:55
16 rounds of 40 compared to only 10 rounds of 45. Think i will take the 40 any day. Cheaper than 45 ammo, a lil snappy but its other pro's make up for that. A lighter faster traveling bullet, almost comparable expansion, price$$$, and its a tried and tested round. Get on the horn with your local PD and ask why they picked up the 40 over the 45.

engineer151515
07-29-2010, 11:56
<<< Have not been a big fan of the .40 because of the snappy recoil.

That said, I sure wouldn't turn one down in a fight.

Glockdude1
07-29-2010, 12:28
.40 Snappy??

I really feel many of you guys need a gym membership.

:nsb:

:tongueout:

DWARREN123
07-29-2010, 12:30
I really believe it has more to do with the shooter and firearm than the caliber but having said that I just really like the 40 S&W.

FullClip
07-29-2010, 14:01
The .40 S&W (aka 10MM short) came into being in 1990..just 20 years old...so it's only another passing fad.:tongueout:

It's one of the very few handgun rounds that I don't have. I figure for a full sized pistol, I'll stick with the .45 and 10MM, and if I want something smaller..then the 9MM can fill the bill.

Am surprised they haven't come out with a .42 1/2 yet to split the differance and create another "solution for a problem that doesn't exist".:supergrin:

greenlion
07-29-2010, 15:07
16 rounds of 40 compared to only 10 rounds of 45. Think i will take the 40 any day.

If we are talking GLOCKS here, that would be 15+1 compared to 13+1. Thats pretty darn close. 2 rounds.

greenlion
07-29-2010, 15:13
I've always thought an 11 millimeter round would be interesting. That would be .43 caliber, which is really close to the .44 special, which I've always really liked. And, I bet you could squeeze it into a G17 sized frame, if you can do the same with the GAP.

Glock1911
07-29-2010, 15:20
I've always thought an 11 millimeter round would be interesting. That would be .43 caliber, which is really close to the .44 special, which I've always really liked. And, I bet you could squeeze it into a G17 sized frame, if you can do the same with the GAP.

Maybe Gaston should have thought of that when he came up with the GAP.

greenlion
07-29-2010, 15:26
I have a Love/Hate relationship with the .40S&W. I admit, in some factory defensive loads, I don't like the snappiness of it, other are not too bad.

I think one problem stems from the fact that shooters want everything pushed to its upmost limit. If an inexperienced buyer walks by and sees one box that says "low recoil ammo" and another that says "hyper velocity-screw Einstein, I'm gonna go faster than light- super nova magnums" , they will buy the latter. What we end up with is a bunch of overpowered rounds that everyone complains about being too snappy, and no way to inject common sense back into the equation, because of the "bigger and faster is always better" buying public.

The .40 in its original form, a 180 gr bullet doing 950 fps, is not bad to shoot. Neither are medium velocity 165 gr rounds. My absolute favorite target load is a 165 gr .40 with a moderate charge of Hodgdon Clays. I like the recoil of that round MUCH more than any I've worked up for 9 or .45. It snaps back on target really fast and the sights track really well.

Unfortunately, manufacturers loading well balanced defensive ammo are hard to find, and even when they do introduce a low recoil line, it may not succeed in the buying market very long.

Dean22
07-29-2010, 16:28
If we are talking GLOCKS here, that would be 15+1 compared to 13+1. Thats pretty darn close. 2 rounds.

I think he is referring to needing a single stack because of the grip size. I could be wrong.
My opinion: ballistics are nearly the same, it's cheaper and I get more rounds for the same size glock. Simple answer for me, the .40 has my heart :cool:

panzer1
07-29-2010, 16:54
The .40 S&W (aka 10MM short) came into being in 1990..just 20 years old...so it's only another passing fad.:tongueout:

It's one of the very few handgun rounds that I don't have. I figure for a full sized pistol, I'll stick with the .45 and 10MM, and if I want something smaller..then the 9MM can fill the bill.

Am surprised they haven't come out with a .42 1/2 yet to split the differance and create another "solution for a problem that doesn't exist".:supergrin:As far as the 10mm gos can you still find full power 10mm rounds? I have been thinking of maybe getting something in 10mm but was not sure if you can get good ammo for it. I shoot the 45,40,9mm as will as the 357sig and like them all. What gun to you have in 10mm? I myself like a steel gun but don't know of any in 10mm.What do you think?

Eber_Rabb
07-29-2010, 17:11
I currently shoot a 45 cal. and have been happy for years. What are your thoughts on the 40 cal.? Any comparison on speed, take down, etc?

Thanks for the info.

Hoguemeister :beer:

Better to be happy. No idea whether a .40 S&W would make you happier. Some prefer the size and relative capacity for their needs when choosing a .40 or a 9mm. Some bigger gents seem less affected. Go to a range and rent a .40 - that's the best indicator.

9mmParabellum
07-29-2010, 17:14
Not a fan of the .40cal and would not stand in front of one either. I shoot a 9mm if I up graded it would be a .45acp

Remember the good old days 9mm or 45, now we have 357sig, 45gap, 10mm they will all kill you learn how to shoot very very well be able to hit what you are shooting at and under stress you will be fine.

MrMurphy
07-29-2010, 17:21
Carried a .45 for 10 years and a 9mm on duty for 3.

I wouldn't go out of my way to get a .40, as my other pistols are 9mm and .45, but it's not a bad round. I'd use one if I was issued it but if you're comfortable with a .45 stick with it. The .40s do tend to have more muzzle rise/snap.

dreis454
07-29-2010, 18:11
If we are talking GLOCKS here, that would be 15+1 compared to 13+1. Thats pretty darn close. 2 rounds.

I'll take the one that makes the bigger hole & load it with PDX1s:whistling:

rome2240sw
07-29-2010, 18:56
I think he is referring to needing a single stack because of the grip size. I could be wrong.
My opinion: ballistics are nearly the same, it's cheaper and I get more rounds for the same size glock. Simple answer for me, the .40 has my heart :cool:

yeah i was referring to the single stack because of grip size. MOST guys i know who carry a .45 including my father carry one with 10 rounds and one mag of ball ammo and a mag of JHPs.

The recoil of the .40 doesnt really bother me. I'm pretty accurate with it and ammo for the .40 is cheap as well as you can find .40sw anywhere in SC. My dad goes store to store when he needs to refill his ammo stash for his .45auto.

The .45 may make a bigger whole, but im down for lighter faster cheaper as well as more capacity in the magazine. If we were talking GLOCKS i would take a 21SF or RTF2 G23 over anything. But i love my G22 best SD gun ever. IMHO

greenlion
07-29-2010, 19:17
yeah i was referring to the single stack because of grip size. MOST guys i know who carry a .45 including my father carry one with 10 rounds and one mag of ball ammo and a mag of JHPs.


I'm still not following you here. The highest capacity single stack 1911 or SIG 220 magazine that fits flush for carry purposes is 8 rounds. Where are you getting 10 ??

rome2240sw
07-29-2010, 22:26
I'm still not following you here. The highest capacity single stack 1911 or SIG 220 magazine that fits flush for carry purposes is 8 rounds. Where are you getting 10 ??

My fault my friend, i was thinking about ruger firearms. but 8 9 or 10 its all less than 16 rounds of 40 in a glock.

g22od
07-29-2010, 22:42
The .40 S&W (aka 10MM short) came into being in 1990..just 20 years old...so it's only another passing fad.:tongueout:

It's one of the very few handgun rounds that I don't have. I figure for a full sized pistol, I'll stick with the .45 and 10MM, and if I want something smaller..then the 9MM can fill the bill.

Am surprised they haven't come out with a .42 1/2 yet to split the differance and create another "solution for a problem that doesn't exist".:supergrin:
:chatter:

TACC GLOCK
07-29-2010, 22:50
Better to be happy. No idea whether a .40 S&W would make you happier. Some prefer the size and relative capacity for their needs when choosing a .40 or a 9mm. Some bigger gents seem less affected. Go to a range and rent a .40 - that's the best indicator.

That's what I did, and found out that my 45 has no less and no more muzzle flip than the 40's I shot. Now I have 9, 40, and 45 in Glock and XD, the more I shoot the more I enjoy the 40.

Kolob12
07-29-2010, 23:04
I carry a 45 for personal protection and shoot racoons with my 40 S&W. Actually I've shot a few coons with the 45 also but the chickens don't care as long as the coons learn their lesson. Lessons learned - use the best bullet for the task at hand if shooting the 9mm, 40, or 45. Good shooting!

rome2240sw
07-29-2010, 23:06
here's a video that may help settle few disputes on the 9 vs 40 vs 45... real LE tests on speer gold dot, federal HST, and Federal tactical bonded.

http://www.kiesler.com/videodetail.aspx?id=1534 (http://www.kiesler.com/videodetail.aspx?id=1534) <!-- / message -->

FullClip
07-30-2010, 13:44
As far as the 10mm gos can you still find full power 10mm rounds? I have been thinking of maybe getting something in 10mm but was not sure if you can get good ammo for it. I shoot the 45,40,9mm as will as the 357sig and like them all. What gun to you have in 10mm? I myself like a steel gun but don't know of any in 10mm.What do you think?


I haven't bought 10MM factory loads in years...been reloading it for about 10 years since I got my Colt Delta Elite back in '89. Also have a G20 that I picked up a few years later. Think Kimber still offers the "Eclipse" model in 10MM and that should be a nice unit. The extra weight of the steel gun helps with the "snappyness" of the 10MM. By handloading, you can turn down the wick a little for plinking rounds. The 20 is nice, and the extra wide grip helps spread out the recoil, but I always do better with the Colt due to the trigger and that I pracitse a lot more with my 1911s that my Glocks.

fredj338
07-30-2010, 13:59
The .40 S&W (aka 10MM short) came into being in 1990..just 20 years old...so it's only another passing fad.:tongueout:

It's one of the very few handgun rounds that I don't have. I figure for a full sized pistol, I'll stick with the .45 and 10MM, and if I want something smaller..then the 9MM can fill the bill.

Am surprised they haven't come out with a .42 1/2 yet to split the differance and create another "solution for a problem that doesn't exist".:supergrin:

Wow, if the 40S&W is a "passing fad", what the heck is the 10mm?!:rofl:
I like the 40, prefer the 45 in any platform. The 40 is slightly cheaper to shoot, holds a few more rounds, depending on what state you live in. I shoot & rely on both to protect myself & family. I don't think you can ever go wrong w/ bigger bullets, bigger holes.:dunno:

SDGlock23
07-31-2010, 15:12
I like them both, and shoot both. It's a toss up really, you can't go wrong with either.

rome2240sw
07-31-2010, 15:19
I like them both, and shoot both. It's a toss up really, you can't go wrong with either.

:agree:

f150man
08-01-2010, 19:08
Only advantage I see is that .40 comes in a smaller package that is easier for people with smaller hands to control and higher capacity than comparably sized .45s.

Aside from that, seems that a lot of people (including myself) find the recoil of .45s more manageable than .40. To me, the .40 feels snappier and it's a bit slower getting back on target.

I'll stick with my 9s :)

+1 Well, except for the 9mm thing.

dreis454
08-02-2010, 13:29
Wow, if the 40S&W is a "passing fad", what the heck is the 10mm?!:rofl:

dead.

how much ammo have you seen for it at your local gun shop?

FullClip
08-02-2010, 13:36
dead.

how much ammo have you seen for it at your local gun shop?


Try looking in the "Mens" section of the store!!!:tongueout: