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jaisan
08-10-2010, 02:04
Hi Guys,
Am attaching below some of the pictures of the armscor prototype.
Essentially a 23 inch bull barrel bolt action with a 5 shot magazine. Bolt has been hardened and hand fitted to a thick (22 magnum) receiver with enlarged ejection ports (the thick receiver is needed so an not to compromise the integrity of the receiver with the large ejection ports so it will not warp). Trigger pull is a crisp three pounds - you have to lighten it at your own risk (factory liability issues) it has a mauser type bolt release, an 11mm scope rails, anschutz like stock, weighs as is 7.27 pounds or 3.3kilos, has one pillar action screw and is actually ready for bedding more or less.
will be testing the rifle and it looks like if I hone the trigger - it will do easy cloverleafs at fifty. Right now there are only four rifles all of which are reserved.
All production units will be done exactly the same way (hand fitting, bolt hardening, etc). Production should start after we have tested throughly the rifle and give it a go.
Phase two will be possibly adjustable triggers and hopefully flush magazines - all to be performance upgrade kits.
Will keep everyone informed -
Talked with Bob Sajot and Major Tuliao - there will be Long Range Rimfire Precision competitions on the following dates:
1. August 29 Armscor Range - 40- 50 rounds
2. Sept 16-19 Marcos Cup 40-50 rounds
3. Oct 1 Possible Armscor range
End of Report

jaisan
08-10-2010, 02:06
Forgot to mention - price should be out this week - perhaps 20 thou or below that. keeping my fingers crossed.:dunno:

Allegra
08-10-2010, 02:23
at that price , I'm getting one!

edtf
08-10-2010, 04:31
EXCITING!!!!! I hope 15-18k

Eye Cutter
08-10-2010, 04:59
i want one too if it's below 20k! 3 na kaming sure buyer!

bob, reserve 1 for me!

Allegra
08-10-2010, 05:19
Andito si Bob?

Eye Cutter
08-10-2010, 05:25
yup! lurker yun dito! hahaha!

mtho
08-10-2010, 05:31
nice to see you active johnny

jaisan
08-10-2010, 07:07
Thanks mtho - am currently doing the courses of fire for the rimfire matches...
Me thinks you will see me more and more... :) don't know if that is good or bad?:dunno:

mtho
08-10-2010, 13:00
i think that will be good, too much work is hazardous anyway

jojo_G19
08-10-2010, 19:23
question... is than 22magnum or 22LR??


jojo

isuzu
08-10-2010, 20:05
Looking at the sample target, my Henry H001 Lever Action could do that with Winchester Bulk Dynapoints at the same distance. :)

MERCMADE
08-10-2010, 20:56
beautiful, i want one too, sana sub 20k

ahtsay
08-10-2010, 21:17
what are the rules for the competition? Can we shoot a rifle with a suppressor? :d Anong distance ang mga targets?

mtho
08-10-2010, 21:46
can we use a ruger 10/22 or remington 597 for competition?

Eye Cutter
08-10-2010, 22:54
hala! you opened another can of worms for the BoGs!

brand new gaasssstosssss!!!!!

jaisan, pagawa ka na ng marami. sa bogs pa lang ubos yan!

Bob, if you're reading this, i want one yesterday! hahaha!

what are the recommended scopes for this? specs? around how much ang cost ng locally available scopes?

BrassKnuckle
08-11-2010, 00:08
What kind of barrel are they using on this rifle?

Allegra
08-11-2010, 00:09
o BOGs group buy para sigurado less than 16t ang price ( cough )
Buena mano sale

Wp.22
08-11-2010, 00:33
bakit halos lahat suppressed yung mga .22lr nila?

Eye Cutter
08-11-2010, 00:56
ano recommended scope???

Potskie, where'd you buy your harris bipod???

z_e_n
08-11-2010, 01:05
http://senbongbongmarcoscup2010.webs.com/22lrsidematch.htm

Game na! :supergrin:

ahtsay
08-11-2010, 01:25
bakit halos lahat suppressed yung mga .22lr nila?

Pare hinde marinig ni mrs. pag pumuputok ka sa garden :supergrin:

Interesting yung side match sa Laoag, you can even just use the house gun.

Zen tagal ko nang hinde nakita yung 22 mo ah, ready nba? :supergrin:

Eye Cutter
08-11-2010, 01:53
zen, pag kumuha ako ng armscor, ikaw mag customize ha?

Wp.22
08-11-2010, 03:14
ano recommended scope???

Potskie, where'd you buy your harris bipod???

Doc EC. yung sa akin Arris ( kapangpangan eh) bipod lang el cheapo china made. can't afford a harris bipod mahal pa sa baril ko yan.

jaisan
08-11-2010, 03:26
Ok guys, here goes:
1. Recommend scope variable zoom mildot 3-9 better 4-16 type
2. Bipod China only 750 - 800 Dboys works well just have to loctite one bolt
3. Will be holding LRRP 22lr 50 yards to 75 yard competition in Armscor Aug 29 -cleared na it with Bob.
4. PTT's got to your respective gun clubs - Armscor if member, etc. I got mine na. basta 22 lr ..
5. Competitions will be :
Aug 29 Armscor
Sept 16-19 Laoag

jaisan
08-11-2010, 03:40
Ok guys, here goes:
1. Recommend scope variable zoom mildot 3-9 better 4-16 type - have used both china scopes and expensive ones - they are ok for 50 to 150 -200
2. Bipod China only P750 - P800 Dboys works well just have to loctite one bolt
3. Will be holding LRRP 22lr 50 yards to 75 yard competition in Armscor Aug 29 -cleared na it with Bob.
4. PTT's go to your respective gun clubs - Armscor if member, etc. I got mine na. basta 22 lr ..
5. Competitions will be :
Aug 29 Armscor
Sept 16-19 Laoag
Oct 1 Armscor
We are going to make it 40 - 50 rounds per COF - if we finish early we will add another COF para masaya
For Armscor P500 fee inclusive of armscor bullets (250 for the bullets - i think that is 50 or 100 rounds)
am currently making course of fire - Fees go to Armscor, props, etc. - ako -labor of love -
For those of you who want to see the Armscor prototype - will make it available there if you want to try it out (bala ninyo please - baka awayin ako ng misis ko dahil sa gastos)- comments will be appreciated and documented para may feedback on improving the rifle...
We may make the Aug 29 shoot the test shoot for laoag - Basta masaya... will make it fun..
you can use most any rifle basta fixed yung mga adjustable cheekpieces and buttplates - no palm rest no butt hook - suppressors ok..
Barrel of Armscor prototype is a 23 inch bull barrel with two or three step crowning - done in-house - same barrel as Bob's rifle that is doing cloverleafs at fifty.
22lr only no magnums yet....
I hope I answered everyone..
will publish COF once approved by sila Bob and Major Tuliao..

Wp.22
08-11-2010, 03:40
Bro Jaisan, if i can get my PTT can you zero my rifle baka pwede sa 29 din kung di ka busy?

jaisan
08-11-2010, 03:58
Sure, basta maaga - will devote the first few hours to zeroing (probably up to ten) depending on number of people attending. No sweat.. will bring my tools.

edtf
08-11-2010, 07:15
what are the rules for the competition? Can we shoot a rifle with a suppressor? :d Anong distance ang mga targets?

I had the same question - answer was yes :embarassed:
Bro Jaisan had an earlier thread about this too

Allegra
08-11-2010, 07:33
bakit halos lahat suppressed yung mga .22lr nila?


I guess pare pareho lang ng reason why everyone's getting one
Assasination or minsan Sentry / k9 elimination

Eye Cutter
08-11-2010, 07:55
feeling mark wahlberg ba potskie?

Wp.22
08-11-2010, 08:23
feeling mark wahlberg ba potskie?

Hindi mas feel ko yung movie na shot through the heart

Allegra
08-11-2010, 08:31
pwede kaya isama sa specs na yung dulo ng bull barrel should fit into the mouth ng 1 liter mineral water bottle
btw, kasya na kaya sa 1 liter yung volume ng expanded gas para ma supress yung tunog ng 22
Masarap tong rifle na to heehee

i_am_infinity
08-11-2010, 09:30
nag lalabasan na ang mga rich people ng BOGs hehehe

Wp.22
08-11-2010, 18:21
nag lalabasan na ang mga rich people ng BOGs hehehe

If FAFA A is posting pang rich lang talaga.

paltik454
08-11-2010, 18:46
Sir Jaisan puede po ba na barrel lang ang bilihin? I have a 1827 FORTNER receiver that needs a barrel. It is basically a straight pull short action Biathlon rifle.:cool:

i_am_infinity
08-11-2010, 23:13
If FAFA A is posting pang rich lang talaga.

:rofl:

Wp.22
08-11-2010, 23:46
lagi na lang bumili yan si FAFA A pero walang camera to show proof sa mga binili like yung seiko na relo, hiking boots etc.

jaisan
08-12-2010, 03:24
Hi Paltik 454,
You can ask Bob if you can buy a barrel I dunno :dunno: but if you can't get one - i would not mind buying the receiver from you....:supergrin:pm me please - if you so decide.

On the price of the prototype - got this email from Bob of Armscor
" Have good news and better news. The good news is that the rifle will retail at PHP 20,000. The better news is that Armscor members price is PHP 18,000.
The sales office number to call is (02) 9414265. The person to look for is Mr. Russell Ramos. Orders will be taken on a first come, first served basis, and will require a 50% deposit. Waiting time is 30 days or thereabouts. "

Please note this is the prototype rifle which I still have to test this next weeks if the paper can be done. The protoytpes serial number are supposedly prefixed with the letters LRRP. Please note LRRP 00o1 is taken, mine is LRRP 0002 :supergrin:

On the August 29 shoot - will be completing the courses of fire by tomorrow have three COFs to choose from. Got a call also from Clark Eagle Range - they are able to accomodate up to 100 meters for a LRRP match. so the venues are increasing folks - just gotta get the PTT's and shoot.
thanks..

edtf
08-12-2010, 04:54
Hi Paltik 454,
You can ask Bob if you can buy a barrel I dunno :dunno: but if you can't get one - i would not mind buying the receiver from you....:supergrin:pm me please - if you so decide.

On the price of the prototype - got this email from Bob of Armscor
" Have good news and better news. The good news is that the rifle will retail at PHP 20,000. The better news is that Armscor members price is PHP 18,000.
The sales office number to call is (02) 9414265. The person to look for is Mr. Russell Ramos. Orders will be taken on a first come, first served basis, and will require a 50% deposit. Waiting time is 30 days or thereabouts. "

Please note this is the prototype rifle which I still have to test this next weeks if the paper can be done. The protoytpes serial number are supposedly prefixed with the letters LRRP. Please note LRRP 00o1 is taken, mine is LRRP 0002 :supergrin:

On the August 29 shoot - will be completing the courses of fire by tomorrow have three COFs to choose from. Got a call also from Clark Eagle Range - they are able to accomodate up to 100 meters for a LRRP match. so the venues are increasing folks - just gotta get the PTT's and shoot.
thanks..

Bro Jaisan baka puwede BOGS group buy nalang kaysa Member discount :supergrin:

Allegra
08-12-2010, 05:35
lagi na lang bumili yan si FAFA A pero walang camera to show proof sa mga binili like yung seiko na relo, hiking boots etc.


di ako nabili nun excuse me!
Sponsored athlete toits , bigla nalang pag gising ko nasa tabi ko na yang mga items na yan. Por kilo ang mga maskels na to

ahem

Allegra
08-12-2010, 06:49
If FAFA A is posting pang rich lang talaga.


si Robin at mariel na ba? kawawa naman si Zanjoe tsk tsk


on topic -

yup, sama ako pag may bogs group buy discount

edtf
08-12-2010, 16:42
Sir Jaisan puede po ba na barrel lang ang bilihin? I have a 1827 FORTNER receiver that needs a barrel. It is basically a straight pull short action Biathlon rifle.:cool:

Bro Paltik can you please keep us updated if we can buy barrel only. Thanks!

paltik454
08-12-2010, 20:25
Bro Paltik can you please keep us updated if we can buy barrel only. Thanks!

Yup I'll keep you guys posted coz I have several .22lr actions(receiver) that needs a barrel. My last chance to romance is a 10/22 aftermarket barrel, but dang!! That puppy is expensive:shocked:

ahtsay
08-13-2010, 22:16
Really tempting, but I recently just had my licenses renewed....magastos!:crying: I think I should get rid of one muna before I get one :upeyes

edtf
08-13-2010, 23:00
Really tempting, but I recently just had my licenses renewed....magastos!:crying: I think I should get rid of one muna before I get one :upeyes

I agree and looks like I too will have to let go of my Walther .22 :crying:

Mahirap mag justify sa mrs and sa sarili

edtf
08-23-2010, 23:35
Bro Jaisan, Baka maconvince ang armscor na BOGS group buy nalang yung discount instead of armscor member :) sayang rin the 2k :supergrin:

jaisan
08-24-2010, 00:07
Hi edtf, am not an employee of Armscor, but will rely to Bob Sajot. Baka next week pa yung rifle - naiipit sa paper work and yung biyahe sa Crame for ballistics....
Will try to ask for BOGs discount.....:supergrin:

edtf
08-24-2010, 00:13
Hi edtf, am not an employee of Armscor, but will rely to Bob Sajot. Baka next week pa yung rifle - naiipit sa paper work and yung biyahe sa Crame for ballistics....
Will try to ask for BOGs discount.....:supergrin:


Thanks Bro!!! is the shoot this weekend a go?

jaisan
08-24-2010, 00:27
Yup it is - if anyone wants the courses of fire plus targets - email me at jcg@esi.com.ph will be happy to send a set over...:supergrin:
You don't have to be ppsa to join - part of the fee is 100 rounds of bullets - but you can use your own bullets and use the armscor some other time. No rifle - you can borrow on the range....:wavey:

mtho
08-24-2010, 09:46
pwede ba yung remington 597 sumali dyan?

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/mtho_6275/DSC_0007-5.jpg

jaisan
08-24-2010, 22:26
As long as it is a 22 lr.. pwede yan...:supergrin:

mtho
08-24-2010, 22:42
its 22lr but its semiauto with a 10 round magazine

jaisan
08-24-2010, 22:57
Yup, it can be - just load five rounds - in the US they use the ruger 1022 and that also holds 10 rounds - no problem.

jaisan
08-25-2010, 01:47
Auuugh! Armscor prototype will not be ready for Aug 29 shoot...:crying:
Paper work and delivery to FED ballistics got in the way....:steamed:
Will be available the week after :dunno:
At least will have time to tune the rifle :cool:
Only Bob Sajots single bolt will be there - i will bring a ruger 10 22 target with KIDD trigger and one remington model 37 bolt....or maybe just the ruger for people to try ...:upeyes:

mtho
08-25-2010, 07:09
wow kidd trigger