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Chonny
08-11-2010, 17:16
I'm trying to find a good personal defense ammo for my S&W 60 2".

Right now I have Buffalo Bore 38 +p 158 gr and Hornady Critical Defense .357 125 gr. I also have a box of Remington Express 158 gr for practice ammo.

While I'm shooting some ammo anyone have recommendations?

Berto
08-11-2010, 17:40
The BB is good stuff. Snappy recoil, but delivers the goods.

cowboywannabe
08-11-2010, 17:45
for my .357 snubs its the full house remington 125gr. sjhp.

for my .38 snubs its the remington 158gr. lhp +p.

both prooven on the street, both quite affordable, both found on the shelf here.

1 old 0311
08-11-2010, 17:59
With the 60, at 21 ounces, you can get pretty hot with the ammo. Airweights at 15, and the titanium's at 13 will make you pay for it.

mikegun
08-11-2010, 18:30
What 38cal round do you carry in your Ruger lcr? and why...

cowboywannabe
08-11-2010, 18:32
What 380cal round do you carry in your Ruger lcp? and why...

me thinks youre lost.

mitchshrader
08-11-2010, 18:34
I've got a pair of model 36's, depending on whose counting, me or my daughter.. one nickel and one blued, both walnut roundbutt and 3" barrels..And 158 grain +P LSWCHP has been my favorite defensive ammo since forever. It is as good a balance as you're going to get between recoil and impact inside SAAMI specs. Hornady short barrel is likely next, Buffalo Bore I wouldn't shoot in old 38's, nor the 'FBI' loads either unless it was critical. I wouldn't practice much with full bore ammo cause they ain't makin' any more of them guns, and I want to keep shooting 'em. I wish I had half a dozen so I could afford to plum wear one out.

There's no point in improving on perfection. A 3" J frame @ 5 o'clock is one of the few ways to hide a minimally adequate self defense gun on a *real* skinny guy, and that soft lead bullet don't do diddley against auto glass, so shoot people appropriately, after proper identification and determination of intent, and not at random windshields...

And I'm too committed to swap over from revolvers now that I've started thishere home for retired smiff's, sort of a veterans home..:whistling:

but it is faintly possible a guy down on his luck that didn't care much could gimme a 3913 too cheap. If he tried. For cash. 24 hour service.

Chonny
08-11-2010, 20:10
Is the short barrel ammo worth trying, like Speer and BB short barrel tactical? I'm not that recoil sensitive although my buddies 360 is pretty annoying the 60 weighs almost double and has a better grip for my hand. Id like to try some .357 with lighter blast and report. I bought this Hornady Critical Defense but I havent tried it yet. Im worried about low light blast situation.

1canvas
08-11-2010, 20:12
i like the .357 135grn. Gold Dot Short Barrel out of my j frame. i ran some full power loads over the chrony and i don't think the velocity from full power mags out of a snub is worth the blast and recoil.

357sigRog
08-12-2010, 01:12
I like and carry the Buffalo Bore 158gr +P SWCLHP in my 38 snubbie too.

FatBoy
08-12-2010, 05:22
Speer GD 135+p short barrel load.

FB

fredj338
08-12-2010, 11:08
SOme old school rounds just get it done. The Win or RP 158grLSWCHP+P is one of those.

cmcinc
08-12-2010, 20:13
Speer Gold Dot 135 +p Short Barrel here.

den888
08-12-2010, 22:08
In my Colt Agent, I carry the Federal 158 gr +P LSWCHP load (FBI load, of the past).

Ak.Hiker
08-12-2010, 23:02
Either one of two loads. 1. Speer 135 grain Gold Dot +P. 2. Federal 158 grain LSWCHP +P.

Chonny
08-13-2010, 00:36
The Hornady Critical Defense was nice. I might make that my SD load. It was light on the blast and the bullet itself is good.

Berto
08-13-2010, 01:04
I have used the Critical Defense ammo, but I don't care for the lightweight bullet, low penetration and low POI compared to better loads.

Chonny
08-13-2010, 07:25
Better performance out of the .357 XTP 125 or 158 gr? Ive got a friend with a bunch of Hornady ammo and he just gives it to me.

I read that the Remington Express .38 +p LSWCHP was actually a good defense round and thats what I shoot when I go out and get my gun dirty.

Little Joe
08-13-2010, 13:55
357 or 38+p Gold Dot Short Barrel and R38S12 Remington 158gr LSWCHP.

Any of you guys looking for the Short Barrel 357 round? I've found some in stock. Nice price, too.

LJ

Glockbuster
08-13-2010, 17:11
i like the .357 135grn. Gold Dot Short Barrel out of my j frame. i ran some full power loads over the chrony and i don't think the velocity from full power mags out of a snub is worth the blast and recoil.

+1 , either that or some .38 spl +P with a big wide hollow point bullet (have some Winchester Supreme SXT)

Chonny
08-15-2010, 03:08
Ive read that the Remington Express .357 125 JHP and the 38 +p 158 are actually excellent rounds. That must be why I can never find it in stock.

Chonny
08-15-2010, 03:12
I have used the Critical Defense ammo, but I don't care for the lightweight bullet, low penetration and low POI compared to better loads.

Id like to chrony it. I wasnt having problems with it shooting low. I just dont know if its worth using. They rate it with an 8 inch barrel and it has pretty low blast for .357 its some type of down load. But I wonder if its even worse than some .38 stuff, like the Buffalo Bore ammo which is a bit stout but whatever.

mikegun
08-15-2010, 09:44
Corbon DPX in my Ruger LCR, a little loud and snappy, but fast and accurate...

Berto
08-15-2010, 12:03
Id like to chrony it. I wasnt having problems with it shooting low. I just dont know if its worth using. They rate it with an 8 inch barrel and it has pretty low blast for .357 its some type of down load. But I wonder if its even worse than some .38 stuff, like the Buffalo Bore ammo which is a bit stout but whatever.

The +P load .38sp supposedly gets low to mid 900fps in the 2" guns (110gr) based on the chrono numbers I've seen. The issue might be low penetration as the bullet is lightweight and expands quickly.
If you're an FBI minimum kinda guy like me, you're going to want deeper penetration that you get from the 135gr Gold Dot and FBI loads.
Again, this is the .38sp I'm talking about.

DEADEYEGUY
08-15-2010, 13:03
Well I used to carry the 158gr. LSWCHP in my 642. The old F.B.I. load. It is not fun to shoot through my 642. Then switched to the 135gr. Gold Dot. Supposed to be a great load. Again stout in my 642. I still have some of the old standard velocity Nyclads. I really liked those. mild recoil yet known to expand most of the time. But supposedly to shallow as far as penetration goes. Just got a couple of boxes of the Hornady Critical Defense non +P load. Going to give them a try. The stats are good on them. The +P expands a hair more. The Non +p expands less but adds about an inch to penetration. So we'll see.

Glockbuster
08-15-2010, 13:45
Ive read that the Remington Express .357 125 JHP and the 38 +p 158 are actually excellent rounds. That must be why I can never find it in stock.


Good luck firing the R357M1 out of a scandium 1 7/8" snubie, or any other factory full house load for that matter. And, no 110 gr. bullets please.

Actually, the scandium snubies are pretty much a 38 special +P guns, or the Short Barrel Gold Dots in .357 magnum. Other factory loads are way over my head.

I've learned that because of short barrels and too much kick, the .357 snubies give up quite a bit and are nowhere near a real .357 magnum. They still plenty good though, with the aforementioned ammo.

Chonny
08-16-2010, 20:10
Yeah I basically bought a bunch of Buffalo Bore including more .38 +p 158 gr LSWCHP, .38 +p 125 gr JHP, .357 125 gr JHP tactical short barrel, and also some heavy .357 125 gr JHP for shooting out of my 686.

The Cor Bon .38 110 gr JHP is one of my favorites when I can find it. Its the only 110 gr .38 I've ever shot with good result. The Hornady CD .38 110 gr doesnt work for me.

JK-linux
08-16-2010, 20:43
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Glockbuster
08-17-2010, 09:27
Yeah I basically bought a bunch of Buffalo Bore including more .38 +p 158 gr LSWCHP, .38 +p 125 gr JHP, .357 125 gr JHP tactical short barrel, and also some heavy .357 125 gr JHP for shooting out of my 686.

The Cor Bon .38 110 gr JHP is one of my favorites when I can find it. Its the only 110 gr .38 I've ever shot with good result. The Hornady CD .38 110 gr doesnt work for me.


Ah yes the 686 is a different animal. I like shooting the R357M1 or any other factory load in my model 66 2.5", but thatīs as far as I go for hot loads. My 340PD scandium loads are Winchester SXT 38 Spl +P. Iīve also found that a reload with the speed loader is much easier.

Chonny
08-18-2010, 01:10
The 686 4" is very pleasant to shoot even with hot ammo. The 60 2 1/8" can handle it, you definitely know you're shooting hot ammo out of a small barrel gun. Im eager to try the Buffalo Bore short barrel ammo.

I would say the 60 is fairly manageable with magnums especially compared to my buddies 360. After 5 shots with the 360 we wanna put it in the case and never look at it again. Hes trained himself to be very good with it but still doesnt care to shoot it.

Chonny
08-18-2010, 09:04
I heard the Winchester .38 +p 125 gr JHP was a good practice round. Gonna go to Wal-Mart and get some.

doublehorse
08-21-2010, 02:29
I use Doubletap in my SP101: 125gr .357 mag. Havent tried BB though.

Matthew Courtney
08-24-2010, 16:43
The +P 158 Grain LSWCHP that many prefer is priced to move at Georgia Arms. $22.50 per hundred. $220 per thousand.

bear10
08-24-2010, 17:06
I prefer a snubby that punches bigger holes. I carry my Bulldog Pug 44spl with W-W Silvertips