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Furyataurus
08-12-2010, 13:51
Let's get the "variants" out of the way first.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo157/Furyataurus/uspvariants.jpg

This goes for USP/C handguns with and without LEM as well as the HK45/C

The P30 Trigger Variants:

P30 (V0):
Innovative safety trigger with concealed cocking piece in the spurred hammer. Centrally located de-cocking button, with a constant enhanced double action only Law Enforcement Modification (LEM)* trigger pull of approximately 4.5 pounds (20 Newtons) without operation of the de-cocking latch, and defined let-off point.

P30 V1:
Innovative safety trigger with concealed cocking piece in the spurrless hammer, without de-cocking button. Constant LEM trigger pull of approximately 4.5 pounds (20 Newtons) and defined let-off point.


P30 V2:
Like P30 V1 but with LEM trigger pull of approximately 7.3 pounds (32.5N).


P30 V3:
Conventional single action/double action (SA/DA) trigger without cocking piece in the hammer with spur and centrally located decocking button.


P30 V4:
Like P30 V1, however LEM trigger pull approximately 6.2 pounds (27.5N).


P30 V6:
Conventional double action only (DAO) trigger without cocking piece in the spurrless hammer. Constant DAO trigger pull of approximately 8.8 pounds (39N).


Don't for get to add the safety lever for the S models.

The P2000 Trigger Variants:

P2000 V1:
 Innovative safety trigger with concealed cocking piece in the hammer, with a constant trigger pull (Combat Defense Action/LEM trigger of 20 Newtons) from the first shot to the last, without decocking.


P2000 V2:
 Like P2000 V1, however LEM/CDA trigger pull 7.3 pounds (32.5 Newtons).


P2000 V3: 
Conventional DA/SA trigger and hammer, with decocking.


P2000 V4:
 Like P2000 V1, however CDA/LEM trigger pull 6.18 pounds (27.5 Newtons).


P2000 V5: 
Double Action only (DAO), trigger pull approximately 7.87 pounds (35 Newtons).


Best accessory for an HK???

Magazines.

Yeah, I know they are expensive but you knew what you were getting yourself into. :supergrin:

Best night sights?

Trijicon of course.:supergrin:

Miscellaneous:

9mm/40/357sig magazines all have the same follower so if you have a 9mm USP and buy a 40 mag by mistake the mag will still hold 15 rounds of 9mm. Of course the hole counters in the mag won't line up right. The same works the other way. If you have a 40 cal USP and get 9mm mags you will still only be able to put 13 rounds of 40 in it.

But, I have been able to fit 15 rounds of 9mm in a 40 cal USPC magazine for all you 9mm USPC/P2000/SK owners out there as opposed to only 13 rounds in a standard 9mm USPC magazine.

USPC/P2000/SK mags are interchangeable except for 45's of course.

Best rail adapter for USP/C is GG&G's

Best light is Streamlight TLR-1 or Insight Tech's M2 for those who don't want a rail adapter.

Trigger

HK's are designed to be "duty"/"combat" handguns. If you want a "crisp" light trigger then get a high end 1911. If you can't pick up ANY handgun and fire it effectively for the first DA pull then you need more training/practice.

Please remember to use "quality" ammo when shooting HK's.

Stovepipes are not jams!!!!

Use your trigger finger or middle finger to release the magazine.

Almost forgot:

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo157/Furyataurus/holds.jpg

HK's use the dead on/cover up hold.

JBnTX
08-12-2010, 17:28
Everything one needs to know about the finest pistols on Earth.

Glocknut101
08-12-2010, 22:10
The dead on hold.. is that lining up the center of the front sight dot with the dot on the target/head/chest?

Swamprattler
08-13-2010, 04:33
Under P30 variants - P30 V3; what do you mean "trigger without cocking piece in the hammer with spur "?

H&K 4 LIFE
08-13-2010, 08:00
The dead on hold.. is that lining up the center of the front sight dot with the dot on the target/head/chest?

Yes. It means covering the intended target with the dot on the front sight. All HK pistols are factory zeroed using this sight picture at 25m.

Glocknut101
08-13-2010, 08:11
Yes. It means covering the intended target with the dot on the front sight. All HK pistols are factory zeroed using this sight picture at 25m.
Thanks, just making sure. Pretty much the same as a Glock? What I'm used to shooting till I got my .40 USPc.

P30
08-15-2010, 11:41
Yes. It means covering the intended target with the dot on the front sight. All HK pistols are factory zeroed using this sight picture at 25m.

I use the 6:00 hold (it's what I was taught) with my P30 at 25 meters, but I still tend to shoot a bit high.

rsxr22
08-15-2010, 18:51
good write up

mrt949
08-16-2010, 16:31
Great reply NOW what is comparable to a SW M&P .Is what I have at the present time FL & COMPACT IN 40 SW. I like the trigger in this pistol .But looking to buy a HK in the future.:supergrin:

peteG21
08-25-2010, 19:28
great post...tagged

azndragon684
09-05-2010, 22:05
thanks, learned alot this is my second H&K just got an USPc .40 :)

kilroy2721
09-06-2010, 20:00
I have a USP 45 full size and I just changed both of my sights. I got Novak sights, a fiber front and plain black rear. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but hope that it is at the center mass hold.

azndragon684
09-06-2010, 23:03
is there a way to see what kind of night site i have on my HK USPc .40? all it says is "TRU DOT" but i seen many with the same..

H&K 4 LIFE
09-07-2010, 07:36
is there a way to see what kind of night site i have on my HK USPc .40? all it says is "TRU DOT" but i seen many with the same..

HK factory night sights are Meprolight "Tru-Dot". :)

azndragon684
09-07-2010, 14:22
oh ok thanks

mrt949
08-25-2012, 15:03
good post

barth
08-25-2012, 15:51
I would add some informational links too.

http://www.hkpro.com/forum/images/aggressivewhirlwind/logo-sm.png
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/

http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/headerimages/overlay.png
http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/home.asp

SCHADENFREUDE
09-01-2012, 04:40
Thanks for this. A HK is on my short list.

barth
09-01-2012, 08:52
Thanks for this. A HK is on my short list.

I've got a HK P30 40 LEM V1 Light.
It's replaced my beloved Glock G27-357 as my EDC.

Highly recommend you check out the P30s.
Specifically in LEM configuration.
These guns are game changers.

dpadams6
09-01-2012, 17:13
Thanks for this. A HK is on my short list.

I shot sig sauer for 20 years. Recently tried and bought a hk p30 v3 40. I'm in love. I feel sorry for my sigs as they sit very lonely. The p30 is amazing.

A-Train
09-01-2012, 23:15
Nice post. Thanks for sharing. :supergrin:

NEOH212
09-02-2012, 00:01
Great post and great information!

Thanks!

:wavey:

Clutch Cargo
09-03-2012, 04:15
Does the dead on hold apply to the tactical models with tall sights and threaded barrels for use with a can?

BuckyP
09-03-2012, 05:26
Yes. It means covering the intended target with the dot on the front sight. All HK pistols are factory zeroed using this sight picture at 25m.


This is my biggest issue with my HKs. It makes anyone more used to a 6:00 hold shoot low. Unfortunately, there are not a log of options to correct this. :sigh:


Thanks, just making sure. Pretty much the same as a Glock? What I'm used to shooting till I got my .40 USPc.


I think GLOCK is a more of a "center mass hold" sight picture. Admittedly, all but one of my GLOCKs have aftermarket sights on them, so I have little time behind factory sights.

I use the 6:00 hold (it's what I was taught) with my P30 at 25 meters, but I still tend to shoot a bit high.

If you are using a 6:00 hold with an HK, you should be shooting low, not high. :dunno:

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IMO, the center mass hold is the better option to sight in a factory gun. It allows either of the other sight pictures to not as far off point of aim.