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freakshow10mm
08-12-2010, 23:14
This past winter I had a major meltdown with my Super 1050 I bought in November. Didn't load correct right out of the gate. .223 Remington was a f-ing joke.

Spent many hours trying to figure out the problem. Even Dillon reloading jedi masters couldn't fix it.

So I had it set up for 9mm since I had a fairly respectable dealer order for some ammo. Was going along pretty good (although the dealer canceled the order leaving me stuck in a bind). Few hiccups with the primer system. Sometimes a primer would get jacked in between the primer slide and the shell plate so I had to take off the system, clear it, then readjust and back in the saddle.

I've loaded plenty of 9mm on the press, over 40,000 rounds by the log book. No issues. No swage rod issues, no priming system issues, no indexing issues.

So I had a break while waiting for my next batch of 9mm bullets to arrive and I thought I'd give the ol' .223 another try. I saved a small batch of components in order to do some T&E with the press to figure the problem.

Ran out a small batch of 500 trouble free rounds. Same components, same lots, same settings, no problems.

I think the press just needed some breaking in. Be that as it may, I've still decided it isn't worth the trouble and won't be loading .223. I'm doing only pistol ammo now and only 9mm and .45 for mail order. Got the 1050 set up for 9mm only and it runs well. The 550 is dedicated to the .45 and the other odd stuff for the local dealers. When I get caught up with stuff and can buy a 1050, it will be for the .45 ACP surely.

So to others contemplating the purchase of the 1050:

Buy from Dillon direct and use their stretch pay program ($500/mo for 3 months, basically)
Give it time. Learn how and why it operates.
Learn the adjustments and how they affect others.
Go smooth. Go slow.
The swage rod feature is excellent, but you will have to determine the practicality of the $1,000 cost over the 650.


Knowing what I know now, I'd still do it all over again. I'd love to get a bullet feeder for it. My uncle has one and my last visit to try it out netted me 1,700 rounds an hour. I can live with that. :)
jmorris
08-13-2010, 08:19
I have a 1050 (with a bullet feeder) set up in 223 that runs like a top but the Achilles heal of the 1050 is the little plastic primer feed tip (the same one they use on the SD.

For pistol rounds I still like my 650’s with GSI feeders because you get to keep the powder check die.
freakshow10mm
08-13-2010, 08:29
I'm turned off by the GSI price. I've never used the PC die nor have any desire to try it. I'll probably go with the KISS feeder. I would like to use the RCBS but it won't work on dynamic toolheads like the 1050's.

I like eyeballing the powder before I set a bullet on it, but I'll have to figure a way to mount a small lighted mirror to shine on station 6 so I can see it before the bullet is set with the feeder.
unclebob
08-13-2010, 08:39
I have a 1050 (with a bullet feeder) set up in 223 that runs like a top but the Achilles heal of the 1050 is the little plastic primer feed tip (the same one they use on the SD.

For pistol rounds I still like my 650’s with GSI feeders because you get to keep the powder check die.


I do not know if it well work or not but try the 650 primer tube in the 1050.
A friend of mine tried the 650 in the 550 and he said that it worked.
Colorado4Wheel
08-13-2010, 11:30
I think you should get a Load Master next.
Hydraulicman
08-13-2010, 16:33
I'll just keep my 550 it's just about as reliable as a single stage.
shotgunred
08-13-2010, 18:16
I think you should get a Load Master next.

:uglylol: :wow: :brickwall::laughing:
Hoser
08-13-2010, 22:04
Over the past 10 days I have made over 5K 300 Whisper brass on my 1050.

All of mine have worked great since day one.
freakshow10mm
08-13-2010, 23:02
I think you should get a Load Master next.
I think you will get a flat rate box full of spent primers.

Over the past 10 days I have made over 5K 300 Whisper brass on my 1050.

All of mine have worked great since day one.
I wish my press did but I'm glad I stuck it out and ran with what worked. I'm looking to get another 1050 in .45 ACP but might spring for a 650 instead. Thinking real hard about selling my 550. I hate to as I got it for dirt cheap at the time. Might keep it for the revolver cartridges. I don't really *need* the 1050 for .45 but I'm so eloquently seduced by priming on the downstroke that I can't fathom priming any other way.
shotgunred
08-13-2010, 23:09
Wow didn't seem that long ago you were ready to swear dillion off all together.
Now you willing to buy another 1050. After all the bad publicity you have given them over this 1050 I would not be surprised it they told you no thanks we don't want to sell you another one.
freakshow10mm
08-13-2010, 23:19
I seriously doubt my posts have made people not buy a Dillon press. Dillon has no problem in the sales department.

If they wouldn't sell to me, I'd just buy from one of their dealers. And get a discount to boot.
Colorado4Wheel
08-14-2010, 08:36
I think you will get a flat rate box full of spent primers.


Seriously. I am glad you got it working. I know how frustrating it is to have a press not meet expectations. I can't imagine having spent $1500 and then have order to fill and having a press not work. Glad you go it sorted out.
VN350X10
08-14-2010, 22:08
Having had/used 3 different 1050's I can attest to the fact that they have a "personality" about them ! The oldest of the 3 was by far the smooooothest & easiest operating. The current one was kept because it was the "newest"...... bad move. Not a bad press, but more jerky in it's movements.
The old one had a single speed case feeder to give you an idea.
The middle one was rather an enigma....we just couldn't get it to run right loading 9mm, but it was fantastic for .38's & .357's. Never tried it for .45's or 40's.
I think I'd be scared to buy a NEW 1050....I think they need about 25K run thru them to break in properly !

uncle albert

maybe Dillon will offer a "factory break in" as an option some day !
freakshow10mm
08-14-2010, 22:23
Seriously. I am glad you got it working. I know how frustrating it is to have a press not meet expectations. I can't imagine having spent $1500 and then have order to fill and having a press not work. Glad you go it sorted out.
That's why I was so pissed. And I had customer orders riding on it's operation too which compounded the frustration and nearly cost me my entire business. Now I've got it set up perfectly for 9mm so I'm not going to poke the bear. That's THE 9mm press. Period. Only thing I'm going to change is the seating die will be the Redding competition die so I can use the micrometer feature to just dial in the adjustment based on bullet weight, since I load 115gr, 124gr, and 147gr ammo. Heavy emphasis on the 147gr subsonic ammo for the silencer crowd. I found a new niche for my business and so far it's helping me get out of the hole. Beating the competition by 37% in price also helps.
jmorris
08-15-2010, 05:44
I'm turned off by the GSI price.

A 650 with a GSI cost less and is faster than a 1050 without any feeder at all. I only do pistol with my 650's and small charges of fast powder 90% of the time I use the powder check for them. The 1050 is they way to go for crimped pockets for sure and I went with the KISS feeder on mine as the GSI for a 1050 is very expensive.
FiremanMike
08-15-2010, 06:27
I think you should get a Load Master next.

Lol, I was thinking someone took a load master post, did a find and replace every instance of loadmaster to 1050, and made a new post.. :)
Uncle Don
08-15-2010, 08:13
I think you should get a Load Master next.


Another example of how you start things, and then play the victim.
Colorado4Wheel
08-15-2010, 08:17
LOL, it was a joke. If you can't joke about something you are taking way to seriously.