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08-28-2010, 00:00,villarreal-guilty-road-rage-murder-082710.article,CST-NWS-finger27.article

Road rage incident leads to shooting back in 1981. Killer finally found and brought to justice. Killer used a 22 and hit the victim twice killing him.

Interesting article from the caliber angle. I would never carry a 22 for self defense - but it does go to show you how important shot placement is, regardless of the caliber you carry.

08-28-2010, 00:28
You should watch the Reagan attempt, a cheap .22 revolver was used, put 3 guys on the ground and one hauling ass to the hospital in maybe 2-3 seconds.

08-28-2010, 06:14
A recent episode of The First 48 dealt with a Louisville convenience store clerk shot once in the chest with a .22lr at close range. He died after a couple of days in the critical care unit of the hospital.

All firearms are deadly weapons.

08-28-2010, 06:41
People get killed with .22s all the time.

08-28-2010, 06:55
Killing power is not stopping power.

08-28-2010, 08:37
Shot placement and penetration are the King and Queen of terminal ballistics. Expansion is icing on the cake.

08-28-2010, 09:45
I had an interesting conversation aboout a week ago with a guy at the range. He's a retired LEO from D.C.. He said every single murder he investigated was either a .22 or 9mm (usually fmj). He knows what everyone should. Placement, placement, placement. With whatever gun.

08-30-2010, 10:54
I remember the police dash cam video where SC Trooper Mark Coates got into a roadside scuffle with a motorist who was armed with a dinky little NAA .22LR mini-revolver.

While they are fighting on the ground the bad guy shoots trooper Coates with his .22. The bullet is stopped by Coates' kevlar vest.

The officer gets away and fires and hits the bad guy 5 times in the chest with his .357 mag revolver.

As Coates calls for backup on his radio the bad guy fires one shot with his .22 "deringer" hitting trooper Coates in the armpit and killing him.

The bad guy survived.

08-30-2010, 11:12
Went to a shooting once. One kid was DRT(2 holes in his left side). The other died shortly after at the hospital. Both with a .22.

09-01-2010, 09:17
This thread brings to mind the following article:

09-01-2010, 09:49
I was scared for my life," Villarreal, speaking through a Spanish interpreter, told a DuPage County jury Thursday, exactly 29 years after the shooting.

29 years later and you still don't speak the lingo? I guess you never got no green card either, or paid taxes, or insurance and the other good stuff..:crying:

09-01-2010, 17:51
He killed a man. He ran back home and lived over twenty years in his home country as a fugitive. At a minimum he now needs to spend the rest of his life in prison.

09-04-2010, 11:26
How did he get caught?

09-04-2010, 11:27
Killing power is not stopping power.

No such thing as "stopping power", "knock down power".