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njl
01-06-2003, 22:36
I know this room's biased...but I'm starting to consider getting rid of my 40's (27 and 24) for a 26 and 21.

I shot a 3rd gen 21 recently and I think I was actually more comfortable with the larger frame. It felt like there was actually room for my thumbs to be side by side without the right one being forced into the slide stop. It felt more like I was holding onto it and less like it was getting lost in my hands.

I need to do some more comparing, but G21 recoil seemed softer than my G24. I bought the 24 primarily for shooting bowling pins or stubborn steel plates...and while it does a much better job at these than my 34, it still seems to be at a disadvantage (especially with pins) compared to those who shoot .45s.

The wife thinks I already have too many pistols, and I really don't want to keep 3 different centerfire pistol ammos on hand, which is why if I get the 21 I'll be pretty much forced to give something up (the 24) and with just the 27 left as my last .40 it seems like it'd make sense to get rid of it in favor of a 26 or 30...but I already have lots of holsters for the 26.

The only complication is, I know I'm going to want to be able to shoot the 21 with "iron sights" sometimes and a red dot sometimes (my 34 and 24 have Optimas). I wonder how well it'll take constant rear sight changes (and if I can find a reasonably priced G21 Optima mount anywhere with Tasco out of business) or if there's an easy to add/remove rail/trigger pin optics mount that I could remove and replace without losing zero?

BTW...the 21 I recently shot had sights that looked an awful lot like ML10226, which I thought were just for the 9/.40/.357 Glocks. Don't the 20/21/30/29 use a taller rear?

don't tread on me
01-07-2003, 09:36
Get the G-21, put some Heinies on it and don't look back! With the G-17 I also ride the slide stop with my thumb, but not with the G-21!

DannyR
01-07-2003, 09:51
200-gr LSWC bullets make nice, big round holes when fired from a G21.;)

Fireglock
01-07-2003, 10:49
First I would check on ammo cost since you don't reload. Second, why give up a 27 in 40 for a 9MM? Third if you're going to give up something to get a 21, I'd give up the 34 and keep the 24. If you're serious about a sighting system for a rail equipped 21, Bobby Carver will have his mount ready very soon. Take it and a C-more and go for it. Get a 8 moa or possible a 6 and you'll like it. My 21 hasn't arrived yet but I did get my reloading dies and conversion kit for the Dillon so now all I need is components and my 21. And last, what's wrong with having three centerfire calibers?

GJM89
01-07-2003, 12:28
What's wrong with having more then three????????

MtnBiker
01-07-2003, 16:52
I don't believe in keeping guns I don't shoot. I know that runs counter to a lot of thinking.

My Dad has purchased several guns over the years. Now that he is in his 70's he realizes no one wants a lot of his firearms and he no longer shoots many of them. So rather than just give them in his will to someone (probably me) who has no interest in most of those old guns; he has begun selling them.

Guess what. Now he has some more disposable cash. He still keeps the ones he shoots.

As for moving up from a 40 cal. Personally I like to shoot .45 and 10mm. I've never really had much use for 40 cal and even less for 9mm.

njl
01-07-2003, 22:16
Originally posted by Fireglock
First I would check on ammo cost since you don't reload. Second, why give up a 27 in 40 for a 9MM? Third if you're going to give up something to get a 21, I'd give up the 34 and keep the 24. If you're serious about a sighting system for a rail equipped 21, Bobby Carver will have his mount ready very soon. Take it and a C-more and go for it. Get a 8 moa or possible a 6 and you'll like it. My 21 hasn't arrived yet but I did get my reloading dies and conversion kit for the Dillon so now all I need is components and my 21. And last, what's wrong with having three centerfire calibers?

Ammo cost was one of the reasons I bought several 9mm's. The only .40 I shoot much now is the 24, which I bought pretty much specifically for shooting pins. Natchez sells .45 Blazer for about $1.00/box more than .40, and about 50% more than 9mm. I've actually just ordered some.

I'd already looked at the Carver mount. It looks as if it sits so close to the slide that to field strip, either the mount would have to be removed or partially disassembled, or you can't have a rear sight. All the pictures I've seen with it are rear sightless. Are my assumptions correct?

Like I said, the wife thinks 5 Glocks is already excessive, so 6 might get me in trouble. I like to keep a decent supply of ammo on hand for each one, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to store a couple thousand rounds of 9, .40, and .223..so adding a case of .45 to the pile is going make that problem worse too. I'm not getting rid of all my 9's, at least not while they're so relatively cheap to shoot, so may as well standardize on 9 and .45 rather than 9 and .40.

Fireglock
01-07-2003, 22:47
Your assumption that the stock sights will need to be removed to use the Carver mount is correct, at least for the competition model. The hunter model which will be available later will allow the retention of the stock sights. Do you plan to use the gun with optics and without?

njl
01-07-2003, 23:02
Originally posted by Fireglock
Your assumption that the stock sights will need to be removed to use the Carver mount is correct, at least for the competition model. The hunter model which will be available later will allow the retention of the stock sights. Do you plan to use the gun with optics and without?

Depends on how well I shoot it and if I decide to do much other than pins with it. For pin shooting, I'd likely want a dot. If I ever wanted to shoot AmCiv with it, I'd need notch & post.