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themighty9mm
09-04-2010, 00:09
Ok so awhile back I asked about reloading 223/5.56. Well I finally got my colt 6920. Bought 1k factory ammo. After I shoot that bit I will be wanting to reload it. I curently have a dillon 550 that I am using for 9mm and 38. On my old thread I found that for some of the prep work several people were using a single stage for resizing and depriming. I am wanting a single stage just for that. I will also be used for a few calibers that my fatherr in law shoots or I shoot very little of (270, 45acp, 243) I wont be loading large quanities at all, those are the same calibers I have a hard time justifying the cost of, new tool head/dies for on the 550. Its primary goal is to save a bit of time on prep. That and a new tou is always fun. At my work we use a rcbs for pressing gas checks in 38's. The handle on that thing has been pulled a couple million times litterally. I am leaning towards getting on of those. I know a bass pro near my house I can get a starter kit for 150. I'm sure I can find it cheaper online. Are there other presses of equal qaulity I should look into?

EL_NinO619
09-04-2010, 00:35
I have a LEE classic SS, and it works great. But RCBS and Hornady are good to (from what i hear) But i got the entire LEE 50th Anniversary kit for $90 from Natchez. Loading .223 i can crank out about 100 rounds a 1hr or 1 1/2 with trimming. But if you have the Money get a RCBS, Customer service from LEE and RCBS are top notch IMO.

AZBru88
09-04-2010, 02:43
themighty9mm something you might check around for is a use single stage. They come up cheap. I've found them at gun show, back shelve or under tables at the gun shops. We have "Backpages" online want ads out here, I see package deals there all the time! Best of luck everyone needs a single stage press.

dudel
09-04-2010, 02:55
For the calibers you mentioned, most any SS will work fine. If you were considering some large magnum rounds (or the dreaded .30 carbine!), I'd say move up to a stout press. Personally, I would tend to stay away from "C" style presses as they have more flex than an "O" or "H" style press. A Lee Classic will work fine as will one from RCBS, Hornady, Lyman or Forester.

Thinking ahead, you may find your use if for pocket swaging or lead swaging, a stronger press helps here. Any single stage can also be used for case trimming, sizing projectiles, removing brass bulge or with a Lee Lead tester. All things difficult to do on a progressive press. SSs are also very handy for working up test loads or reloading at the range.

All my rifle prep gets done on the SS. Works well for me.

Rico567
09-04-2010, 04:44
I just had a gob of .45 ACP that I needed to deprime, because I needed to put them through a liquid cleaning. I have the RCBS universal decap die, and have used it before but after some thought, I just ran them through my Dillon 650. It went very quickly.

Bello
09-04-2010, 06:53
ya i also have a lee classic "o" frame press does me justice and thats all i need but jack has given me the hornady itch.... sigh....

DoctaGlockta
09-04-2010, 08:20
I just bought a Lee classic cast to deprime resize 308. I reload 223 on my lnl but the ss is better for larger rifle calibers IMO. Good luck.

PCJim
09-04-2010, 08:25
Mighty, check your local Craigs list, EBay, etc for a used press. You don't need a high dollar press for the uses you have stated. You've the right idea, and a 550 to follow thru with the heavier work requirements.

If your .223 ammo has crimped primers, look at the Dillon Super Swage or a Hornady primer pocket reamer (chucked in a variable speed drill). I've tried a couple other methods and they just didn't come close to what either of these will do.

GioaJack
09-04-2010, 10:13
ya i also have a lee classic "o" frame press does me justice and thats all i need but jack has given me the hornady itch.... sigh....


I've had women accuse me of giving them an itch too... I get blamed for a lot of stuff. :whistling:


Jack

fredj338
09-04-2010, 11:17
Yeah, everyone can use a solid ss press, even C4W. There is no reaon to not reload the 223 on the 550B though. Case prep can be lessoned by using an X-die & OneShot lube. You don't need to clean primer pockets everytime, maybe every 3-4.

Bello
09-04-2010, 12:47
I've had women accuse me of giving them an itch too... I get blamed for a lot of stuff. :whistling:


Jack


Che Cazzo Capito?!? haha

IndyGunFreak
09-04-2010, 13:22
Another vote for the Lee Classic Cast.. it's cheap enough.. I think there's a kit for sale in the Misc. Gun Stuff forum now...

fredj338
09-04-2010, 14:17
Another vote for the Lee Classic Cast.. it's cheap enough.. I think there's a kit for sale in the Misc. Gun Stuff forum now...
Agree Jack. I still ahve a RCBS jr, but switched to a AmmoMAster for really big rifle rounds. Today, I probably would buy the Lee CC. Big enough, sturdy enough, cheap enough. Then I could freely bash other Lee products.:rofl:

IndyGunFreak
09-04-2010, 14:31
Agree Jack. I still ahve a RCBS jr, but switched to a AmmoMAster for really big rifle rounds. Today, I probably would buy the Lee CC. Big enough, sturdy enough, cheap enough. Then I could freely bash other Lee products.:rofl:

You're the second person thats called me Jack :rofl:

The last one was in a PM though, which I found hysterical..lol. Do folks only look at avatars nowdays?

unclebob
09-04-2010, 14:50
Do folks only look at avatars nowdays?

Yes:supergrin:

unclebob
09-04-2010, 14:54
I would also look at what has been brought up a few times already the Lee Classic Cast press. Take the Lee Die adaptor out and put the Hornady LNL adaptor in its place. A snap in changing dies in and out.

GioaJack
09-04-2010, 14:57
You're the second person thats called me Jack :rofl:

The last one was in a PM though, which I found hysterical..lol. Do folks only look at avatars nowdays?


Good God man, who wouldn't be distracted by the uncanny resemblance between me and Tom Selleck? You should thank your lucky stars you were not born with such a curse... I can't leave the house without a gun and large stick just to fend off the more than willing women!

I can only afford so much Viagra. :whistling:


Jack

Fox
09-04-2010, 14:58
Check the local gunshows for a good, used press. No need to pay top dollar for a new press.

EL_NinO619
09-04-2010, 17:22
My LEE came with the breech lock bushings. Takes about a sec to switch dies. And For $90 It also came with a scale (Before we start saying it is inaccurate, I tested it to XDRoX RCBS 505,Dead nuts). Powder thrower, safety prime and all that. Now there are far better, but for the value. Don't think so.
http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=LE&prodID=LEE90050&prodTitle=Lee%20Breech%20Lock%2050th%20Anniversary%20Kit

Bello
09-04-2010, 17:31
My LEE came with the breech lock bushings. Takes about a sec to switch dies. And For $90 It also came with a scale (Before we start saying it is inaccurate, I tested it to XDRoX RCBS 505,Dead nuts). Powder thrower, safety prime and all that. Now there are far better, but for the value. Don't think so.
http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=LE&prodID=LEE90050&prodTitle=Lee%20Breech%20Lock%2050th%20Anniversary%20Kit


you sure are all about that huh? u keep making me laugh

EL_NinO619
09-04-2010, 18:00
No i am not all about LEE, its just a good press for the money, I would rather have a LNL or a Dillion, but for a SS you can not beat it. Guaranteed.

themighty9mm
09-04-2010, 20:54
I think the basic idea proceses of the 223/556 or any rifle round for that matter. Is clean brass, lube, Resize/deprime if crimped then remove crimp. Then clean again, then throw through the 550 and load like normal. Other than the calibers mentioned, I may do small batches of X,Y, or Z for friends/family. So used most likely is the way to go. I hear alot of trash talk about lee products though. I do keep in mind it is the errornet, and roumors spread like wildfire weather they are true or not. As far as kits go, I'm not real sure I would use much out of the kit. The press obviously, and maybe the powder drop, scale I have covered. The powder drop is pretty cheap as is. I definatly want a press that can stand up to harsh calibers, as I may load 30 carbine for a friend, and like I said random other rounds. I'm still fairly new to reloading only have loaded about 4k total, and never a rifle round. I do however want all me equipment to be able to grow and adapt with me. So in this case bigger may be better. I'd be dissapointed if down the line I find the single stage I have isnt really capable of handling what I need it to, and have to buy over. Kinda why I started with the dillon for my pistol needs

themighty9mm
09-04-2010, 21:02
Yeah, everyone can use a solid ss press, even C4W. There is no reaon to not reload the 223 on the 550B though. Case prep can be lessoned by using an X-die & OneShot lube. You don't need to clean primer pockets everytime, maybe every 3-4.
What is a X die? I havnt heard of that before

El_Ron1
09-04-2010, 21:08
I drag my Rock Chucker out at least once every 5-10 years for a couple hours.

dudel
09-05-2010, 04:35
I think the basic idea proceses of the 223/556 or any rifle round for that matter. Is clean brass, lube, Resize/deprime if crimped then remove crimp.

The only thing I would add after resize/deprime is trim.

That takes the brass off the press unless you have a Dillon trimmer in a 1050. I suppose you could put a trim file die on if you had a station only; but all that brass is sure to gum of thw works of most/any progressive (plus it's a slower process than Christmas).

unclebob
09-05-2010, 06:31
The only thing I would add after resize/deprime is trim.

That takes the brass off the press unless you have a Dillon trimmer in a 1050. I suppose you could put a trim file die on if you had a station only; but all that brass is sure to gum of thw works of most/any progressive (plus it's a slower process than Christmas).

Sizing and case trimming in a 550, 650, or LNL works great. The only advantage the 1050 has is that it swages the primer pocket. The Dillon Swage 600 takes care of that.


I have not used it but everything that I have read about the Lee SS Cast press is great. A lot of people like it better than the Rock Chucker. And it is about half the price of the other make of press out there.

RustyFN
09-05-2010, 09:39
Agree I probably would buy the Lee CC. Big enough, sturdy enough, cheap enough. Then I could freely bash other Lee products.:rofl:

:rofl:

dudel
09-05-2010, 11:16
Sizing and case trimming in a 550, 650, or LNL works great. The only advantage the 1050 has is that it swages the primer pocket. The Dillon Swage 600 takes care of that.

I can certainly see using the Dillon trimmer on a 650 or LNL. On a 550b, I'm out of stations. (size/deprime, powder, seat, crimp). I could seat/crimp in one step; but I like the results and flexibility of a two step seat and crimp. Also, not sure how well it would mount on the 550b with the powder measure next t6o it. That toolhead can get a bit cramped.

Of course there's nothing that keeps you from getting another 550b tooheaq and just size and trim on it. I'm even considering that option.

dudel
09-05-2010, 11:20
I have not used it but everything that I have read about the Lee SS Cast press is great. A lot of people like it better than the Rock Chucker. And it is about half the price of the other make of press out there.

One advantage of the Lee SS Classic over the RockChucker is the larger frame opening. It certainly makes moving large rounds in and out easier. How well it holds up we'll have to see. There are 40 year old RockChuckers still running strong today.

I'd consider one; but then people would bash my gear and make me feel inferior. :supergrin:

Don
(you'll find no stronger supporter of Lee pots, moulds and FCCD)

unclebob
09-05-2010, 11:21
Of course there's nothing that keeps you from getting another 550b tooheaq and just size and trim on it. I'm even considering that option.

That is how you do it.

Then the easy way of removing the lube. Is put them in a bath of acetone.

unclebob
09-05-2010, 11:32
One advantage of the Lee SS Classic over the RockChucker is the larger frame opening. It certainly makes moving large rounds in and out easier. How well it holds up we'll have to see. There are 40 year old RockChuckers still running strong today.

I'd consider one; but then people would bash my gear and make me feel inferior. :supergrin:

Don
(you'll find no stronger supporter of Lee pots, moulds and FCCD)

I donít think there are too many people bashing the LCT and the Lee Cast SS press. The other pressís, yes.

mboylan
09-06-2010, 11:19
Get a Forster CO-AX and be done with it.