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Teecher45
09-04-2010, 23:25
Let's say you need to switch from buckshot to a slug quickly. The benelli has a magazine cutoff that will allow you to do it fairly fast. I have spent the last 15 years working on and with the 870 and prefer to stick with it. Let's say I'm walking around loaded with buck In the chamber and all of a sudden I need to put a slug in a ten ring at 100 yards. Anybody got a good suggestion on how to get it done quickly that I'm not thinkin bout or is this THE selling point for the Benelli? The slugs will be riding in the side saddle.

vafish
09-05-2010, 06:12
Had an NCOIC in the Army that I used to deer hunt with at Quantico about 25 years ago.

He carried his shotgun loaded with slugs, but would switch out and shoot squirrels on sight.

He simply pumped the action back ejecting the slug from the chamber, the next slug would come up and he would roll the shotgun to dump it out as well, then he would drop a #4 shot in, shoot the squirrel and load back up with the slugs.

Biggest problem with that plan when you are facing someone who might be shooting back is you just dumped 2 rounds from your shotgun.

I think the best bet is if you think there is a chance you are going to need slugs, load up with slugs from the beginning.

DustyJacket
09-05-2010, 06:42
Yhere is an easy way to remove rounds from the tubular magazine without cycling them throught the action, by pressing a bar inside the open put below the action.

Unfortunately, figuring out how to write it up without something to take photos of is beyond me.

The amove methind sounds good. Better yet, carry a side=by-side or and o/u shotgun.

Jon_R
09-05-2010, 06:51
With my 590 I just pull the forend back about ~80% of the way pull the one shell out put the new one in and close the bolt. There is a point where you can do this without getting a round from the magazine. Another option is to use your fingers on the underside of the shotgun you can pull a round out of the magazine without doing anything with the chamber. Then you put a slug in its place and pump your shotgun.

With practice I found the first method is faster for me. Which would be easier in the dark under stress I am not sure yet. For home defense given my house not sure what situation I would do the drill in. There in no shot inside my house where a slug would be so much better then buck that I would feel the need to do a slug select. I would just use whatever was in the tube.

MacG22
09-08-2010, 10:39
Don't fill you mag to full. Leave space for one shell. If you need the slug quick, load it into the tube as fast you can and then just cycle the one out of the chamber and load it in.

I've used this method to great affect in training situations.

For an example of real life...I generally keep buck for HD. But I was going out one night to get our trashcan back from a black bear. Before I was out of the house I had removed one fo the buck from the tube and loaded the slug next in line. Now the mag was full. If I wanted the slug first (not necessary, in this case) I could just have cycled it once, reloaded the ejected buck, and been topped off and ready to go. Took 3 seconds.

The tradeoff is that you keep your tube light by one round. Sure enough. But what I do to counter is keep one slug and one buck right next to my shotgun (easy where I keep it). Whenever I pick up the shotgun, I pick those up too and either put them in my pocket, load one in the tube, or etc.

David Armstrong
09-08-2010, 12:04
What Mac said. I've had great success teaching "select slug" from the -1 loading. Keeping the mag down one for storage gives that option as you grab it, then keeping that format allows easy selection. If staying -1 is problematic, the Farnam drill is the one I like. For the 870: Rack the action to eject the chambered round, roll the action so the shell on the lifter comes out, insert the selected round, run the slide forward.

Boeydafunk
09-08-2010, 12:45
If you keep your SG mag topped off, chamber empty when u pick it up u rack it. This leaves you down one for the select slug drill.
Assess the situation, realize u need a slug.
Insert slug into tube
Rack gun putting the slug into chamber
Fire. and rack
now your back to where you started, buckshot in the gun
reassess need for slug
if no, shoot or sling fire arm
If yes, slug goes in the mag tube and rack the shotgun
Slug in the chamber
Fire
And so on...
DaFunk

MTPD
09-10-2010, 14:40
I'm an ex-cop who has been involved in several shotgun shooting situations. In my opinion KISS is the way to go. Almost never are you going to have the time or the inclination to switch loads in the middle of a firefight. If you think uou might need slugs, I'd advise keeping your mag loaded with 000B or 00B and slugs, alternating buck & slugs every other round. If you need a slug, just shoot two fast shots and one of them is going to be a slug = KISS!