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ldrichard
09-11-2010, 11:03
http://www.secondamendmenttaskforce.com/New_Shop/Shop_Shirts/72_DPI_Shop/45ACP72.jpg

OkieGunNut
09-11-2010, 13:15
Yeah? Like that guy that shot his infant son with a shotgun and was then hit with 14 rounds of .45ACP by the cops and still lives? I'll stick with 2 or 3 rounds of my 125gr JHP 9mms at 1300fps. It might work better, might not; but, that's how I roll.
And if I wanted to I can carry a .40, 10mm, .45, 357sig auto, I just choose the 9mm.

glock031
09-11-2010, 14:07
Well i'm glad we have that debate settled. :supergrin:

CanyonMan
09-11-2010, 15:29
http://www.secondamendmenttaskforce.com/New_Shop/Shop_Shirts/72_DPI_Shop/45ACP72.jpg


I can only say one thing about this; Where do you get those T-Shirts ? :supergrin:

I am very serious. I will buy several for Christmas. Let me know if you can OP ! ;)

EDIT; Never mind I just found them. Duh !

PS> I'm not here to debate. Just want the Dang T-shirt ! ;) ha !


Thanks



CanyonMan

IndyGunFreak
09-11-2010, 15:31
Yeah? Like that guy that shot his infant son with a shotgun and was then hit with 14 rounds of .45ACP by the cops and still lives? I'll stick with 2 or 3 rounds of my 125gr JHP 9mms at 1300fps. It might work better, might not; but, that's how I roll.
And if I wanted to I can carry a .40, 10mm, .45, 357sig auto, I just choose the 9mm.

:agree:

While I'm not in the "speed kills" school of thought, there's plenty of cases of failure of all calibers and weight, most involving multiple hits. Locally, there was a case where a Deputy was shot 4x in the chest w/ a .45, and he lived almost a month before dying of an infection.

Sad reality is that in addition to training, most shootings will also require a lot of luck to survive, and what caliber/bullet you're shooting is gonna be pretty low on the list of problems you could have.

.45Super-Man
09-11-2010, 15:35
I disagree! That should be a Dan Wesson, not a MIMber.:supergrin:

MTS532
09-11-2010, 15:40
End of Discussion

:upeyes:

Only in America do you find such chest-beating.

Angry Fist
09-11-2010, 15:46
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd230/gbp98/Despair_-_10mm_auto.jpg

Jr.
09-11-2010, 16:20
Yeah? Like that guy that shot his infant son with a shotgun and was then hit with 14 rounds of .45ACP by the cops and still lives? I'll stick with 2 or 3 rounds of my 125gr JHP 9mms at 1300fps. It might work better, might not; but, that's how I roll.
And if I wanted to I can carry a .40, 10mm, .45, 357sig auto, I just choose the 9mm.


It was NYSP who responded so it would be 45 G.A.P. :tongueout:

Ajon412
09-11-2010, 18:02
Yeah? Like that guy that shot his infant son with a shotgun and was then hit with 14 rounds of .45ACP by the cops and still lives? I'll stick with 2 or 3 rounds of my 125gr JHP 9mms at 1300fps. It might work better, might not; but, that's how I roll.
And if I wanted to I can carry a .40, 10mm, .45, 357sig auto, I just choose the 9mm.

There was a recent police shooting in NYC (Bronx, Aug 2010) where a perp was shot 23 times with 9mm Speer 124 +P GDHP rounds and survived. Conversely, a Brooklyn copper a few years back shot an killed a perp with (1) round to the chest (same ammo) after the perp attacked the officer with chair. I tend to think shot placement has more to do with it than caliber. Just my .02....:dunno:

thegriz18
09-11-2010, 18:16
The body is big, bullets, even .45's are small in comparison. Lots of vital parts to hit, lots of space to miss. Personally I think the reason a lot of people either survive shootings or take a lot of rounds is to due to the anatomically incorrect targets that are used to train with. Nearly every silhouette target places the 10 ring in the stomach or belly of the target, not the vital triangle.

glocknbruce
09-11-2010, 18:38
man, glad i saw this thread....im trading in my 9's for 45's first thing monday ;)

Ajon412
09-11-2010, 18:56
The body is big, bullets, even .45's are small in comparison. Lots of vital parts to hit, lots of space to miss. Personally I think the reason a lot of people either survive shootings or take a lot of rounds is to due to the anatomically incorrect targets that are used to train with. Nearly every silhouette target places the 10 ring in the stomach or belly of the target, not the vital triangle.

:goodpost: +1......So true

racer88
09-11-2010, 19:21
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd230/gbp98/Despair_-_10mm_auto.jpg

LOL! Now THAT is funny!

striker6126
09-11-2010, 23:12
The body is big, bullets, even .45's are small in comparison. Lots of vital parts to hit, lots of space to miss. Personally I think the reason a lot of people either survive shootings or take a lot of rounds is to due to the anatomically incorrect targets that are used to train with. Nearly every silhouette target places the 10 ring in the stomach or belly of the target, not the vital triangle.

Good post

shotgunred
09-11-2010, 23:31
The air marshal bottle targets are the best one's i have seen.

thegriz18
09-12-2010, 00:20
The air marshal bottle targets are the best one's i have seen.

I think I know which ones you are talking about. You have a pic?

HAMMERHEAD
09-12-2010, 08:15
...but the T shirts said so!

MrVvrroomm
09-12-2010, 09:40
I think I know which ones you are talking about. You have a pic?
http://www.letargets.com/images/qit-03.jpg

Does Google work on your machine? :supergrin:

BrokenArrow
09-12-2010, 11:39
Dang! All I got is this old Ruger Speed Six in 38 Special!?

So that means all youse 45/10 maximeter guys will have no problem lettin' me shoot first, since it ain't gonna do nuthin' anyway? :)

thegriz18
09-12-2010, 11:50
http://www.letargets.com/images/qit-03.jpg

Does Google work on your machine? :supergrin:

There was a silhouette target that I used when I lived in TX that IMO, was the most realistic target I've ever used. You think I can find it outside of that shop? Nope. I've searched the internet for it with zero luck.