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thegriz18
09-12-2010, 01:01
I've found this locally for a good price. I am of the understanding that this is the old USBP load at 1200fps. I am also of the understanding that this load has some serious street results. I'm thinking about picking up a few boxes. Any one use or ever used this stuff? I know it uses the silvertip bullet, without the coating. I've seen some expansion pictures and it looks pretty good for an "old JHP". I'm guessing that it works fairly well?

Snowman92D
09-12-2010, 01:57
It's a bit hard on polymer guns if you shoot a lot of it, and uncommitted handgunners complain that it's hard to control...but it does a first-rate job at its stated purpose.

5532jwk
09-12-2010, 04:20
It is a good hollow point but does not contain the T-Series projectile that the RA40T and RA40TA rounds do.

thegriz18
09-12-2010, 11:55
The stories that I've heard about this round are very good. Winchester has it spec'd at 1205 fps. I think I might give this load a try. I might see if I can find some ballistic type material to shoot with it. I'm going to be interested in the results.

BrokenArrow
09-12-2010, 12:07
Performs the same as the 155/40 Silvertip at the same velocity from the same guns.

FBI 155 Silvertip G22 1199 fps

bare 12.1/.69
cloth 13.1/.71

DHS Fed/Rem 155/40 duty ammo avgd 9.9 inches of penetration at 1160 fps in bare gel tests done by ICE in 2004. The Winchester 155/40 Ranger came along later.

The full power 155/40s are hard on guns. The DHS spec (155 @ 1195 +/- 60 fps) ammo was very hard on the Glocks in their 2004 trials (the G22/23 did not pass the 10K endurance/reliability tests; the G27 did pass it's 5K test). The Genesis of the Gen4 Glock's steel dual spring recoil unit among other things.

thegriz18
09-12-2010, 12:13
Performs the same as the 155/40 Silvertip at the same velocity from the same guns.

FBI 155 Silvertip G22 1199 fps

bare 12.1/.69
cloth 13.1/.71

DHS Fed/Rem 155/40 duty ammo avgd 9.9 inches of penetration at 1160 fps in bare gel tests done by ICE in 2004. The Winchester spec 155/40 Ranger came along later.

The full power 155/40s are hard on guns. The DHS spec (155 @ 1195 +/- 60 fps) ammo was very hard on the Glocks in their 2004 trials (the G22/23 did not pass the 10K endurance/reliability tests; the G27 did). The Genesis of the Gen4 Glock's steel dual spring recoil unit among other things.
That is interesting information. Thanks. I think I might give this load a try.

Snowman92D
09-12-2010, 18:37
Griz...FWIW, I've never heard of a case where a 155-grain Silvertip .40 has ever under-penetrated in actual shootings. It does well out of handguns and is really wicked when fired from pistol-caliber carbines. Again...in anti-personnel shootings, not in gell-o tests.

thegriz18
09-15-2010, 23:25
Anyone have any pictures of these bad boys after they've been fired?

smoke
09-16-2010, 07:35
As others have said, it's just a generic .40/155 Silvertip. I've carried it and still do in some guns. I'd like to find some more myself, and everybody had it cheap at one time, but the supply seems to have dried-up.

ennis
12-18-2010, 23:49
I just bought a bunch of this ammo at a gun show. Does anyone have any verification about the problems of this load in Polymer guns? It is for my G27. I haven't shot any yet so I have no idea about how clean or dirty this ammo is.

Here is a youtube video of some tests of this ammo;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91RnFI0qNBI

Kalmah
12-19-2010, 13:46
I just bought a bunch of this ammo at a gun show. Does anyone have any verification about the problems of this load in Polymer guns? It is for my G27. I haven't shot any yet so I have no idea about how clean or dirty this ammo is.

Here is a youtube video of some tests of this ammo;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91RnFI0qNBI
Unless you bought ten thousand rounds and plan to do an endurance test with them, I don't think you have to worry about them being too hard on your Glock.

fastbolt
12-19-2010, 14:10
Don't be surprised if the "heyday" of the 155gr JHP .40 load is later discovered to have come & gone for LE/Gov usage. It's hard on guns and many shooters.

Don't be surprised if the 180gr load eventually becomes standard choice.

hotpig
12-19-2010, 18:41
Don't be surprised if the "heyday" of the 155gr JHP .40 load is later discovered to have come & gone for LE/Gov usage. It's hard on guns and many shooters.

Don't be surprised if the 180gr load eventually becomes standard choice.180 has been the bulk of my LE sales for many years.

fastbolt
12-20-2010, 04:08
180 has been the bulk of my LE sales for many years.

That doesn't surprise me at all.

What I really meant was that I suspect the segment of the fed LE customer base that favored the lighter loads for a while will come around to what the significant number of the rest of the LE users have adopted in the way of bullet weight in this caliber. ;)

BrokenArrow
12-20-2010, 12:02
It's already started. DOJ was/is 165/180, DHS was 135/155. Some DHS agencies have started using 180s...

fastbolt
12-20-2010, 13:41
Yeah, I'd heard some rumblings about that change to 180's. ;)