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Glock23shooter
09-14-2010, 19:56
Well not long ago i bought some Truglo night sights for my G22 i installed the front sight now i just need help doing the rear sight. i did it the stupid ghetto way by getting a small flat head and hammer punching it out. Damaged up the stock rear sight so i left it alone. My friend said to buy a tool puncher and do it that way.

Any sugestions???

TXNAV8R
09-14-2010, 19:59
I used to use brass punches but then I got some nylon drifts that work better and don't mark your stuff up.

Glock23shooter
09-14-2010, 20:12
i have brass rods like the long rod to clean riffle barrel's would that work and a hammer?

TXNAV8R
09-14-2010, 20:54
i have brass rods like the long rod to clean riffle barrel's would that work and a hammer?

Noooooooo....

Don't be "that guy" who uses the wrong tool for the job, especially when it comes to firearms. Either get some proper punches and drifts or take it to a gunsmith. They are not expensive, I think a 5 pack of nylon drifts cost me maybe $5.00. If you are unfamiliar with that stuff, get it done and watch how they do it. You are going to need some locktite as well neways.

Glock23shooter
09-14-2010, 21:03
I did the front sight already which was very easy, i ended up sanding down the piece that goes into the hole of the slide for proper fiting. I guess i'll get the drift's then but i was wondering if a puncher would work better?

TXNAV8R
09-14-2010, 21:06
I did the front sight already which was very easy, i ended up sanding down the piece that goes into the hole of the slide for proper fiting. I guess i'll get the drift's then but i was wondering if a puncher would work better?

What kind of sights are they? You used locktite up front, right? I've never had to sand on any sights for a Glock.

Not sure what a puncher is.

Glock23shooter
09-14-2010, 21:19
What kind of sights are they? You used locktite up front, right? I've never had to sand on any sights for a Glock.

Not sure what a puncher is.

Yes the first tiem i put too much lock tight and it ended up drying inside the threads so i couldnt get the screw all the way in. Cleaned the threads out and did it perfect. Now this time i use VERY little lock tight almost barely lol.

Edit: I sanded down the bottom part that way i did less hammering getting the front sight in then before. Fit nice and perfect now.

Engineer
09-14-2010, 21:34
The stock, plastic rear sights are garbage and will deform if you use a punch to drift them out (they'll deform as well if you use a sight pusher). When you install the rear night sight, it's best to use a sight pusher vs. a punch because you are not imparting an impulse of force as you would get from using a punch.

It is possible to whack a sight hard enough that you crack the vial and allow the tritium gas to escape. That being said, it is also very possible to use a punch to install night sights. The trick is making sure that there is just enough resistance between the night sight and the dovetail groove. If a particular sight is too large, then you'll end up wacking away too hard on it when you should be taking a file to the sight to fit it properly. That's where having some experience installing sights is helpful.

bentbiker
09-14-2010, 21:39
I did the front sight already which was very easy, i ended up sanding down the piece that goes into the hole of the slide for proper fiting. I guess i'll get the drift's then but i was wondering if a puncher would work better?
If, by "puncher" you mean "pusher", the answer is yes. You have to be crazy to bang on night sights containing glass vials of radioactive gas. I believe every manufacturer says to use a pusher. The right tool will protect your investment and last a lifetime -- all for as little as $65.

bentbiker
09-14-2010, 21:48
The stock, plastic rear sights are garbage and will deform if you use a punch to drift them out (they'll deform as well if you use a sight pusher).Not my experience using a pusher with sloped sides and staying low on the sight.

DLL9mm
09-15-2010, 03:57
Either buy a sight pusher, OR take it to a gunsmith who has one.

toddmog
09-15-2010, 10:05
Edit: I sanded down the bottom part that way i did less hammering getting the front sight in then before. Fit nice and perfect now.

What??? You don't need to hammer the front sight to get it in. You should be able to drop it in and tighten the nut inside the slide. Sounds like you need to take you Glock to a shop and let a gunsmith install them for you. It would be $10 well spent.

guns54
09-15-2010, 11:35
If your not sure,take it to a gun smith, Dont screw them up. This way,if any thing gos wrong,its on him to make it right.have a safe and nice night. good luck.

TXNAV8R
09-15-2010, 12:31
Yes the first tiem i put too much lock tight and it ended up drying inside the threads so i couldnt get the screw all the way in. Cleaned the threads out and did it perfect. Now this time i use VERY little lock tight almost barely lol.

Edit: I sanded down the bottom part that way i did less hammering getting the front sight in then before. Fit nice and perfect now.

You should not be hammering the front sight. It just drops in... I'd recommend that you stop messing with your gun and get the sights installed and the front sight checked out to make sure you did not screw anything up.

Glock23shooter
09-15-2010, 13:46
Thanks for some of the replies guys. Fist off, those who have these sights Know they will not fit right in the hole of the slide without doing a little work to them...i'm sure all night sight's aren't the same. As for gunsmith most stores charge over $50 and more to install them, why pay them if i know i can do it myself. only difference is they have the perfect tools for them....i did the front sight and came out pretty nice.

toddmog
09-15-2010, 14:16
Thanks for some of the replies guys. Fist off, those who have these sights Know they will not fit right in the hole of the slide without doing a little work to them...i'm sure all night sight's aren't the same.

You are right...I don't have any Truglo sights. While my experience is limited to only 8 Glocks, I have never had to do any fitting on a front sight when using Trijicon or Meprolight night sites.

As for gunsmith most stores charge over $50 and more to install them,

You should really look into a different shop if they want to charge you over $50 for a less than 10 minute job. Before I had tools, a shop only charged me $10 to take nite sites off of my G19 and put them on my G27 and put factory sites back on the G19. That was even in IL where the gun shops in my area were known for raping you.

why pay them if i know i can do it myself. only difference is they have the perfect tools for them....i did the front sight and came out pretty nice.

Because if they screw up the sites during install, it's on them. If you screw them up, it's on you. I cringe at the thought of banging on anything with a tritium vial in it. However, with all things internet related...YMMV

elde
09-15-2010, 17:43
Glock23:

Yes, some front sights do require fitting in order to drop into the slot on the top of the slide....however a hammer is not the proper tool to use to fit a front sight. A file is sometimes necessary to take just a tiny bit of metal off of the sight.

I'll bet there is a gun store in the Tampa area that charges a minimal amount to install a rear sight on a Glock - using a sight pusher. Believe me, you do not want to use a hammer on TruGlo tritium sights....you are just asking for a broken sight.

Send "tampashooters" (Glocktalk name) a PM. He's very active on this forum and will probably be able to direct you to a dealer that will take care of your issue.

Glock23shooter
09-15-2010, 21:17
ended up buying this at the hardware store today not sure if this is going to work? now need vise or buy some cheap wood lol

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2628/dscn1817r.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9646/dscn1815z.jpg

TXNAV8R
09-15-2010, 21:29
ended up buying this at the hardware store today not sure if this is going to work? now need vise or buy some cheap wood lol

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2628/dscn1817r.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9646/dscn1815z.jpg

:rofl:

You are just dead set on ****ing up a perfectly good pistol/sights, aren't you? I hate to sound like a dick but I am doing so for your own good.

Why did you even bother ask for advice when you were just going to ignore every attempt by these good folks to offer up their EXPERIENCE?

Giving you one more post with information till I just let you go on and do what you are going to do. It's real simple.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=513/Product/NYLON_FRONT_SIGHT_DRIFT_PUNCH

This is how I do it... A local gunsmith of mine, well known for his work, does not use pushers. He installs with these nylon punches. All it takes is patience, the nylon is soft enough that any damage done will be taken by the punch itself.

OR

a sight pusher (since you don't want to see how it is done properly)

DONT use those damn NAIL punches!

Engineer
09-15-2010, 21:30
ended up buying this at the hardware store today not sure if this is going to work? now need vise or buy some cheap wood lol

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2628/dscn1817r.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9646/dscn1815z.jpg

If those are the tools you purchased to do the job, then in all honesty, please pay a gunsmith to do the job properly.

Wash-ar15
09-15-2010, 21:34
Put the slide in a $4.95 flatrate box and send it to me with 5 bucks for return shipping and I can do it for you correctly. :wavey:

Shadyscott69
09-15-2010, 21:36
Try this...

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=2133/pid=512/sku/Basic_Nylon_Brass_Punch_Set?utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_source=googlebase&mc_id=10000&gdftrk=gdfV21820_a_7c187_a_7c745_a_7c080475000_d_080475001_d_449

Glock23shooter
09-15-2010, 21:54
:rofl:

You are just dead set on ****ing up a perfectly good pistol/sights, aren't you? I hate to sound like a dick but I am doing so for your own good.

Why did you even bother ask for advice when you were just going to ignore every attempt by these good folks to offer up their EXPERIENCE?

Giving you one more post with information till I just let you go on and do what you are going to do. It's real simple.

DONT use those damn NAIL punches!

i was just asking i didn't bother using them yet just bought some stuff and wait for my friend to get back to me sense he knows how to change out sights in general. It didn't hurt to ask tho.....but i guess it did :dunno:

Glock23shooter
09-15-2010, 21:57
Try this...

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=2133/pid=512/sku/Basic_Nylon_Brass_Punch_Set?utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_source=googlebase&mc_id=10000&gdftrk=gdfV21820_a_7c187_a_7c745_a_7c080475000_d_080475001_d_449

i'll just buy this then thanks....:wavey:

Wash don't worry i have a friend who does them but i just don't like bothering people and rather learn on my own.

Wash-ar15
09-15-2010, 22:12
i'll just buy this then thanks....:wavey:

Wash don't worry i have a friend who does them but i just don't like bothering people and rather learn on my own.

make sure he's got the straight sided one. the slant one won't work.

Glock23shooter
09-15-2010, 22:20
make sure he's got the straight sided one. the slant one won't work.

the online store or my friend?

TXNAV8R
09-15-2010, 22:22
i was just asking i didn't bother using them yet just bought some stuff and wait for my friend to get back to me sense he knows how to change out sights in general. It didn't hurt to ask tho.....but i guess it did :dunno:

I just don't want to see a fellow Glocker fubar his gun up.

:cool:

Glock23shooter
09-15-2010, 22:32
thanks for looking i will post up pics once i get the rear's done in a few days....i already ordered that nylon brass.

Taroman
09-15-2010, 22:57
Maybe already mentioned, but there's a guy on the forum selling a sight pusher he makes. Its the real deal. Just put a set of tritium Speed Sights on my G30. No fuss.

http://www.hverovhe.com/army_lg.png

bentbiker
09-16-2010, 12:12
Maybe already mentioned, but there's a guy on the forum selling a sight pusher he makes. Its the real deal.

Scott has sold out of his pushers and doesn't plan to make more at the $65 price.

Fire_Medic
09-16-2010, 13:38
Glock23Shooter, come down to Miami or mail me your slide with the sight and I won't charge you for the installation, if you ship you just need to cover your preferred method.
:wavey:

Glock23shooter
09-18-2010, 10:30
Glock23Shooter, come down to Miami or mail me your slide with the sight and I won't charge you for the installation, if you ship you just need to cover your preferred method.
:wavey:

Thanks alot for the offer man, but it's cool if anything i'll just have my friend do it just will have to drive way out to his house.

Well my tool just came in today pretty excited only thing is i don't know how to use it lol It came with a few pieces so if you guys can exlain to me on using them i will greatly appreciate it i will also head over to my other friends shop and use the vise tool they have there.:supergrin:

Glock23shooter
09-23-2010, 15:41
well ended up changing out the rear sights...

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1592/l92b1b4b17f8e4514b73d25.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/l92b1b4b17f8e4514b73d25.jpg/)
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7606/l815c2f5fc2a34ccd965d96.jpg (http://img831.imageshack.us/i/l815c2f5fc2a34ccd965d96.jpg/)

I'm happy with them and think they look real good. I also ended up buying this sight tool for no reason which i'm thinking about selling since i won't use it much....

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9983/la6d596514c3b414ca3d33d.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/la6d596514c3b414ca3d33d.jpg/)

bentbiker
09-23-2010, 18:35
I also ended up buying this sight tool for no reason which i'm thinking about selling since i won't use it much....

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9983/la6d596514c3b414ca3d33d.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/la6d596514c3b414ca3d33d.jpg/)
From whom did you buy the pusher? Looks like a prototype of the one sold here by BigMoneyGrip, and referenced in my earlier post.

Glock23shooter
09-23-2010, 18:58
some guy name jonathan from New york. I'm not sure if he's on here?

TXNAV8R
09-23-2010, 19:21
some guy name jonathan from New york. I'm not sure if he's on here?

How much was it?

Glock23shooter
09-23-2010, 19:41
i payed $70 for it. i will sell it for the same price, it came in today.

Glock23shooter
09-23-2010, 21:29
If anyone is interested in the sight pusher tool i have it up on this section...

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1267774

TACC GLOCK
09-23-2010, 21:40
It is worth the money to have soemone who knows what they are doing install them for you.

I am having a set put on both my G20 and G37 this week.