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Civilian sheep Dog
09-14-2010, 20:46
well It's about that time I add a shotgun to my guns collection. Can anyone suggest a good shotgun?:dunno: Right now Im looking at the Mossberg 500 persuader,Mossberg 590,Remington 870. This is mainly for home Defense but I would like to take it out to the range and have fun as well. If anyone can add their suggestions pro's + Con's to any of the shotguns I would greatly appreciated Pictures to come once I make my purchase! Thanks A lot!

sambeaux2249
09-14-2010, 21:09
well It's about that time I add a shotgun to my guns collection. Can anyone suggest a good shotgun?:dunno: Right now Im looking at the Mossberg 500 persuader,Mossberg 590,Remington 870. This is mainly for home Defense but I would like to take it out to the range and have fun as well. If anyone can add their suggestions pro's + Con's to any of the shotguns I would greatly appreciated Pictures to come once I make my purchase! Thanks A lot!

Sounds like you got most of the best ones covered. You might add a Benelli Nova to your list. Go take a look at each one, handle them, see which controls seem the most comfortable to you, see what accessories you like... Pick from there. You can't go wrong with any of the above choices.

The 870 has the most aftermarket options, is a good solid shotgun without mods, and is reasonably priced.

The mossberg has almost as many aftermarket goodies, is a good solid shotgun without goodies, and is cheaper than the remington.

The Benelli has very few aftermarket goodies, but doesn't really need many. It's also a good solid choice and reasonably priced.

Good luck. Hope this helps.

Sam

bear62
09-14-2010, 21:16
There are shotguns with more bells and whistles....... BUT I really like myMossberg 500 Persuader.... It's been part of my home defense plan seems like forever.....

Good luck with your choice.......

dc2integra
09-14-2010, 21:20
The mossberg 500 or the rem 870 are both great guns.I like the mossberg because it has better internals than the 870 IMO like for example it has a dual firing pin as the rem 870 doesnt.You cant go wrong with either .

Z71bill
09-14-2010, 22:30
The mossberg 500 or the rem 870 are both great guns.I like the mossberg because it has better internals than the 870 IMO like for example it has a dual firing pin as the rem 870 doesnt.You cant go wrong with either .

I have never owned a Mossberg - but wonder how the heck they use a dual firing pin.

I have read about dual extractors before - you sure that is not what you mean?

mixflip
09-15-2010, 01:39
Woo Hoo its about time another one of these threads came around again!!!

There is no perfect shotgun for everybody sadly. It all boils down to features. What features are deal breaker must have items? If you dont know what features you like then its time to do some homework and more importantly go to a range and rent a few shotguns and see what I am talking about.

What features???

steel vs aluminum receiver?
Blued vs parkerized?
single vs double extractor?
combo gun option? (28 vent rib that can be swapped out with an 18" security barrel.)
dedicated mag tube? (no mag extension, just one solid dedicated 20" mag tube for a 20" barrel? No interface for the spring to get hung up on.)
spring loaded shell elevator vs retractable shell elevator?
chamber capable of shooting 3" magnums?
Choke vs no choke capable?
safety button on the tang, in front of the trigger or behind the trigger?
Slide release in front of the trigger guard or behind the trigger guard?
bead sight vs ghost ring sights?
Are you left handed or right handed?

The features between the top shotguns choices keep going. You should know the pros & cons of both Remington & Mossberg before you buy. I have owned both so I figured out what I wanted and what works for me a while ago.

My favorite pump action is my Benelli SNT which incorporates features from both Remington & Mossberg and a few options they dont have at all.

vafish
09-15-2010, 06:21
Remington 870, Mossberg 500 or 590, Benelli Nova, or Winchester 1200/1300 all are good serviceable pump action shotguns.


Take a look at all of them and see which features you like such as placement of the safety and slide release.

Zell
09-15-2010, 12:45
Remington 870 Express.

MedicOni
09-15-2010, 12:51
I've got a Mossberg 500. I love it, especially since the safety is very lefty friendly.

Nutt51
09-15-2010, 17:11
Here's a good one. I have 2 870's, one 870P and one express.
www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_64/products_id/95077 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_64/products_id/95077)

Check out the site www.aiptactical.com and read about 870's and
HD shotguns. Good information.

Aceman
09-15-2010, 19:38
At the end of the day, regarding an 870 or a 500, I say flip a coin. They really are both excellent guns, and proven performers. You can learn to use either just fine. One man's beef with a 500 is another's favorite feature of the 500, and the same with 870's.

Each gun has pro's and cons - but they only matter to someone who has shot both enough and shoots both for it to matter. What ever you get you'll learn to love. One simply isn't any better than the other, and the history of each has proven that. So if you haven't shot either, don't worry about what people say. Go hold a few for yourself.

But the main issues are going to end up as safety and release buttons. Give each a feel and decide for yourself.

As for Benelli - it's the HK of shotguns. I always think of the 590 as the mega indestructable version of the regular 500.

A Mossberg Maverick and an 870 express, vs a 500 and an 870, vs a Police 870 and a 590 are kind of how I like to look at the tiers. Not exactly right, but pretty close.

Either way - all three sets, six guns, work pretty darn much the same way and are very good weapons, with just slight changes in quality from low to high end.

mixflip
09-15-2010, 21:09
As for Benelli - it's the HK of shotguns.

Well said, thats why I have a benelli SuperNova. I owned both remington & Mossberg.

To the OP...are you a TNP'er?

dc2integra
09-15-2010, 21:32
sorry meant to say dual extractor

mixflip
09-15-2010, 22:42
Lol, we know but it was still pretty funny.

Restless28
09-16-2010, 15:25
I like the Defender.

G23c
09-16-2010, 18:02
another one for the Mossberg. good solid shotgun.

Noblinger
09-16-2010, 21:30
Remington 870

CTfam
09-18-2010, 17:59
If I was starting from scratch I would pick up a Mossberg 500A. This model to be exact.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_871/products_id/46276

A stock that fits you is probably the most important improvement. I just chopped an inch off the factory stock.

A night sight is nice to have...

http://www.opticsplanet.net/meprolight-shotgun-beads.html

I prefer this safety to the stock one.

http://www.brownells.com/1/1/22141-mossberg-500-590-oversized-safety-mossberg-oversized-safety-vang-comp-systems.html

This clamp.

http://www.amazon.com/LaserLyte-Shotgun-Tri-Rail-Mount/dp/B000VUWSAY/ref=pd_sbs_sg_1

This light.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/streamlight-tlr1-weapon-mounted-flashlight.html

This ammo.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=202716


DONE! No pistol grips, No ammo carriers, No lazers, No bayonets. You will have a light weight, fast handling, reliable pump.

ET.
09-23-2010, 22:03
I bought an 870 express. No regrets here...


...except now I wish I'd bought a police model with wood furniture... Or maybe a marine model would be nice. I like the chromed metal look.

bullw
11-03-2010, 17:17
I've owned 870P, 590A1, but currently own a Benelli SNT which I love. The balance is great and it points real natural. That said I'm not into all the extras which if you are, you might want to go with any mentioned above.

FireForged
11-10-2010, 20:19
I vote for the Mossy 500 Persuader or the Winchester 1300.

jolly roger
11-15-2010, 20:56
Mossberg 590A1 is my personal choice. Like the safety location better than the Remington.

glockenturm
11-16-2010, 07:43
Remington 870 with Blackhawk/Knoxx Specops Recoil Reducing stock. No marks or soreness after shooting.

My shotgun collected dust until I installed the stock. There is no "this is gonna suck" in the back off my mind anymore.

I recommend going to shoot one before you buy. A smaller gauge is not bad if someone is hesitant to use the 12 Gauge.

Bearlaker
11-16-2010, 08:31
I really like the Mossy 500A combo. I keep the 18 1/2" bbl on the gun for home defense, and the 28" bbl installs in seconds if I decide to go hunting.

pmwglock19
11-18-2010, 19:07
I have shot in 3 gun competition the 870, 500 and the saiga. I bought the Mossberg 500 persuader because of the safety and the way the gun pointed. My son was going to get the saiga, but changed his mind after shooting my shotgun in competition. He is going to buy the 590.

Buoyboy
11-19-2010, 07:53
I have shot in 3 gun competition the 870, 500 and the saiga. I bought the Mossberg 500 persuader because of the safety and the way the gun pointed. My son was going to get the saiga, but changed his mind after shooting my shotgun in competition. He is going to buy the 590.

I shot a 3 gun match with my pal. I had a 590A1 and he had an 870. One course of fire required 35 rounds. The 590A1 has a thicker barrel wall. By my last reload my barrel was warm but I could hold it. His was hot and when he turned the shotgun over into his hand to reload it, he burned it pretty good.

Just a piece of information.

I really like my 20" 590A1. Ghost rings line up just perfect for me. Replaced the regular stock with a Knoxx Compstock which helps when I'm running 100 rounds of 12 guage in a practice session.