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cowboy1964
09-16-2010, 20:05
Gotta figure out what I'm going to use in my PM9. I think +P/+P+ might be largely wasted in a 3" barrel. So I guess I'm leading toward 124gr or maybe 147gr. I'd just go Gold Dot Short Barrel if it were the same price as the regular stuff.

PapaWood
09-17-2010, 00:24
I would recommend something 124 gr +P if you aren't into buying the Gold Dot short barrel which is probably the best for your sized gun. The extra velocity from the round helps keeps the bullet moving fast out of even a shorter barrel. Another good choice if you don't mind 115 gr would be the Hornaday Critical Defense line which is also designed specifically for sub handguns.

A lot of people argue that 147 gr is a poor choice for a 3" gun due to it already being a slower round that is traveling even slower due to the barrel length. There are of course other arguments which contradict this but my personal preference leans to something faster.

I personally favor Winchester PDX1 124 gr +P in my G26 and PDX1 147 gr out of my P229.

Ajon412
09-17-2010, 08:56
Speer 124 +P GDHP......This is my carry load for my 3953TSW...

hotpig
09-17-2010, 09:01
Ranger 147gr RA9T.

fredj338
09-17-2010, 09:30
Gotta figure out what I'm going to use in my PM9. I think +P/+P+ might be largely wasted in a 3" barrel. So I guess I'm leading toward 124gr or maybe 147gr. I'd just go Gold Dot Short Barrel if it were the same price as the regular stuff.

IMO, short bbls is exactly why you would want to use +P or +P+ ammo. Bullets like to expand within certain vel range. Take 50fps off, the bullet is not likely to work the way it was designed. I woudl go 124gr+P. I currently carry the BH 124grXTP+P. It runs 1220fps in the short bbl. I would say that was not wasted.:dunno:

hotpig
09-17-2010, 09:37
Stick with modern jhp loads. They are not as velocity dependent as old ammo designs.

JBP55
09-17-2010, 12:38
124/127/147 Gold Dot, Ranger T, HST will all work fine +P or not.

ldrichard
09-17-2010, 12:57
http://www.dakotaammo.net/Self-Defense-DPXreg/9mm-Luger-95gr-Self-Defense-DPX/DPX0980-20/200/Product

Corbon - specifically made for short barrel pistols.

jlavallee
09-17-2010, 13:31
I use Federal HST 147 grain in my 9mm guns either full size or sub compact. These rounds have expanded just fine on denim, phone book and water jug tests I've done.

Kalmah
09-17-2010, 16:02
I currently have 147gr HST +P loaded in my PM9. I can't really say I notice any difference in recoil with the +P's than with standard pressure loads.

I really like the HST's, but my supply is a bit limited because they were hard to find for a while. So when I came across a good deal on 147gr Ranger T's (RA9T), I bought a lot of those.

When my HST's finally run out, I think I have enough Rangers to last me forever.

carbofan21
09-17-2010, 16:56
147 federal hst, or 147 winchester ranger talon

Brigrat
09-17-2010, 17:26
Federal 135+p LE Only in in theory, but you can find some if you look for it. It is the federal LE contract 9mm; I have a case or so that I would sell at a per box rate, PM me if interested.

bogey3737
09-17-2010, 18:51
124 +P Gold Dots

packinaglock
09-17-2010, 19:15
I use Ranger T 124g +p in my pm9, I don't think it's rated for +p+. I do use the Ranger T 127g +p+ in my Glocks though.

MURRAY
09-17-2010, 19:49
Ranger 147gr RA9T.

Thats what I use in all my 9mm

Boxerglocker
09-18-2010, 12:14
I like 124 +P HST JHP in my EMP9... very accurate and modest recoil. I save the 147g GDHP for my G19 longer barreled guns gun feels sluggish with that stuff. Never chronoed it out of my EMP9 but I could imagine not fast enough for full expansion as Fred said above.

I just got a Kel Tec PF-9 gonna use either Double Tap 115g +P or Corbon 115g JHP +P JHP's in that one.

9mmParabellum
09-19-2010, 14:49
I use a Speer GD 124gr +P+ 9mm I am getting 1289fps

thegriz18
09-19-2010, 15:01
I use a Speer GD 124gr +P+ 9mm I am getting 1289fps

I didn't think Speer made a +P+ 124 load. Do you mean 115 grain?

ABNAK
09-20-2010, 06:49
I had a Kel-Tec PF9 (3.1" barrel) and chrono'd some 124gr +P HST's. They averaged 1132fps. Not too shabby for such a short barrel and still within the "window" for expansion.

Alaskapopo
09-20-2010, 15:34
Gotta figure out what I'm going to use in my PM9. I think +P/+P+ might be largely wasted in a 3" barrel. So I guess I'm leading toward 124gr or maybe 147gr. I'd just go Gold Dot Short Barrel if it were the same price as the regular stuff.

I like the +p 147 grain HST. The HST bullet expands well even at slower velocities.
Pat

Jav21
09-20-2010, 20:55
...A lot of people argue that 147 gr is a poor choice for a 3" gun due to it already being a slower round that is traveling even slower due to the barrel length. There are of course other arguments which contradict this but my personal preference leans to something faster.

The heavier/slower bullets lose a lower percentage of velocity out of shorter barrels than lighter/faster rounds.

I have never seen any data on the optimal velocity range of any HP bullet so...

Here is a list of defense ammo velocity out of a PM9
http://www.kahr.com/PA-1B/review_ch0809.html

so go find the velocity for each of these rounds in the barrel lengths of 4" which this ammo was designed for and see which round velocity is closest.

I take no responsibility for this being a good idea or not.

9mmParabellum
09-21-2010, 17:54
I didn't think Speer made a +P+ 124 load. Do you mean 115 grain?

My 124gr +P+ GD is loaded by www.Buffaloboreammo.com (http://www.Buffaloboreammo.com)

ronin.45
09-28-2010, 21:23
Pow'r ball. light and fast with guaranteed expansion.

cowboy1964
09-28-2010, 23:33
The heavier/slower bullets lose a lower percentage of velocity out of shorter barrels than lighter/faster rounds.

I have never seen any data on the optimal velocity range of any HP bullet so...

Here is a list of defense ammo velocity out of a PM9
http://www.kahr.com/PA-1B/review_ch0809.html


Wow, the 124+P Gold Dot was only 1090fps. That's about 120 fps less than I would expect from say a Glock 19. I would expect the regular pressure 124 Gold Dot to come in around 1090.

I refer to this page quite often. It shows a little higher velocities from 3" barrels.
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/9mmluger.html

I don't think using +P hurts anything and it might give a touch more velocity.

JimBianchi
09-29-2010, 00:12
My Kahr MK9 lives on a steady diet of HST 147.

Feeds perfectly, very accurate, soft recoil.

Jdog
09-29-2010, 00:40
since hst is kinda rare around these parts, I just use regular 124gr gold dots in my little 3" PM9. (Can someone show me a test comparing & showing favorable results with the "short barrel" flavor of rounds?) until then I'll use the standard ones

Patrick Murphy
10-05-2010, 18:12
Corbon DPX.

jdavionic
10-05-2010, 18:18
Hornady CD