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Wp.22
09-29-2010, 04:20
Since gunban naman may time para sa isang serious project. Im going to replaced the stock of my marlin 22lr. Boring kasi yung sa akin so im thinking of having a new stock made. The new stock will be made of hardwood i did some research kanina pwede daw mahogany or kamagong as stock even camachile pwede.

I want a stock with thumb hole. I will post some pics pag uwi ko mabagal internet dito sa office.

Tomorrow morning i will do a scavenger hunt for some mahogany and kamagong planks here in the factory sana may natira pa.:supergrin:

sandman_sy
09-29-2010, 06:53
This gunban has some serious side effect on me.. parang palaging "bili" ang nasa isip ko..

DELICADO!!! hahahahah

XDM or new Standard Pistol??? hhmm....

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:mLty3VzNoLAXGM:http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn139/silverfj40/IMG_0525.jpg&t=1

i_am_infinity
09-29-2010, 07:22
This gunban has some serious side effect on me.. parang palaging "bili" ang nasa isip ko..

DELICADO!!! hahahahah

XDM or new Standard Pistol??? hhmm....

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:mLty3VzNoLAXGM:http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn139/silverfj40/IMG_0525.jpg&t=1

do you SVI dyan sa inyo?

Eye Cutter
09-29-2010, 07:57
pot, mas maganda kung polymer/fiberglass para magaan. unless i-lighten mo stock with lots of holes.

check mo boyd's stocks for designs

Wp.22
09-29-2010, 08:17
pot, mas maganda kung polymer/fiberglass para magaan. unless i-lighten mo stock with lots of holes.

check mo boyd's stocks for designs

doc, na check ko na yung nga ang isa sa pagkukunan ko ng design oks lang medyo mabigat masel man naman ako

Eye Cutter
09-29-2010, 08:29
para kang si gundog, pababa ng pababa yung tama kasi ngawit na! hahaha!

Putok-Glock
09-29-2010, 17:57
During every gun ban period, I work on the software most and least, almost none, on the hardware.

Eye Cutter
09-29-2010, 18:20
pot, eto gusto namin pagaya ni gundog na stock!

http://www.rimfiretechnologies.com/v/vspfiles/photos/categories/42.jpg

Wp.22
09-29-2010, 18:48
i know that this are laminated stocks but i love the style/design. Still thinking which one to copy.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/VQ1.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/tundrastock.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/SilhouetteRHSide10inch.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/boydstacticool.jpg

Wp.22
09-29-2010, 18:50
looking for planks
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC2669.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC2667.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC2666-1.jpg

this are light colored hardwoods im looking for the darker one hopefully there are more in the other storage areas.

Wp.22
09-29-2010, 18:55
Mag usap kami this coming monday nung gagawa kung kaya nya may tools naman like electronic katam, router, drill press etc.

ahtsay
09-29-2010, 19:52
During every gun ban period, I work on the software most and least, almost none, on the hardware.

How do you work on your software? :supergrin: Me, I try to read at night instead of watching TV. This is just my theory but I think there are mental benefits to reading as opposed to watching tv. I also work on snapping my focus from whatever random items I see in the office, para ma exercise ko din mata ko. I also stopped dry-firing, reformat ko muna hard drive before I start dry-firing again!

BTW, I'm dieting na. Sobra mo akong kinanchawan sa Laoag eh, na-gu-guilty na tuloy ako. Every time I eat in a restaurant, I suddenly fear someone might be watching me eat :rofl: Chaka I hurt my knee, which I'm sure is related to my weight :upeyes: Next time you see me, kasing payat ko na si Zen! Yung hita ko kasing payat na ng katawan ni Zen hehehe!! (medyo ginaya ko style ng mga post ni Pogi, sorry!)

mtho
09-29-2010, 20:11
ahtsay, yan ang wag mong gagayahin. baka masiraan ka ng bait

pogi
09-29-2010, 20:31
...wawa naman si Zen na pamangkin ni Mark. Walang kaalam-alam binabanatan.

sandman_sy
09-29-2010, 21:27
do you SVI dyan sa inyo?

hehehe.. isip-ration lang :) ganda ng grip.. saw this actual.. DAMIT... :P wish i didn't see it.. parang yun ang match na nag.light ng candle sa utak ko :P

Eye Cutter
09-30-2010, 01:12
pot, hanap mo kami nila gundog and boss mike ng kahoy! pagaya natin yung para sa CZ!

Wp.22
09-30-2010, 02:08
pot, hanap mo kami nila gundog and boss mike ng kahoy! pagaya natin yung para sa CZ!

no problem doc as long as may makita ako bigyan ko kayo. still looking for kamagong type ko yung black eh

TheSCINTILLAN
09-30-2010, 03:11
Sir, meron akong blank Boyd's Ross Thumbhole Stock in Royal Jacaranda. Baka interesado kayo. 09177019902. Uninletted sya so pwedeng gamitin sa kahit anong model ng baril.

Putok-Glock
09-30-2010, 07:49
How do you work on your software? :supergrin: Me, I try to read at night instead of watching TV. This is just my theory but I think there are mental benefits to reading as opposed to watching tv. I also work on snapping my focus from whatever random items I see in the office, para ma exercise ko din mata ko. I also stopped dry-firing, reformat ko muna hard drive before I start dry-firing again!

BTW, I'm dieting na. Sobra mo akong kinanchawan sa Laoag eh, na-gu-guilty na tuloy ako. Every time I eat in a restaurant, I suddenly fear someone might be watching me eat :rofl: Chaka I hurt my knee, which I'm sure is related to my weight :upeyes: Next time you see me, kasing payat ko na si Zen! Yung hita ko kasing payat na ng katawan ni Zen hehehe!! (medyo ginaya ko style ng mga post ni Pogi, sorry!)

Hi bro,
Sorry if my comments in Laoag made you feel uncomfortable, it was not meant to be so. I said it w/ a feeling of paghanga, every bite you took was w/ great enthusiasm and enjoyment, but your pacing was without any form of rushing, and as I watched you from afar I couldnt help but be envious w/ that and could almost taste your food, sarap na sarap :wavey:

About the software, every long break from live fire is an opportunity for me to study my past perf and improve on it. Also if there were bad habits I wanted to change, its always easier for me to do away from the range. Your term "reformat" is dead on... agree on your theory about reading vs watching but on a different tone. Most of the time I like reading a book more than watch that same book on film. By reading, I could digest it at my own pace, and at my own perception..mebe am weird? ...Serioso na eto, ha!:upeyes:

Eye Cutter
09-30-2010, 08:05
Sir, meron akong blank Boyd's Ross Thumbhole Stock in Royal Jacaranda. Baka interesado kayo. 09177019902. Uninletted sya so pwedeng gamitin sa kahit anong model ng baril.

can you post a photo? maybe gundog will be interested

ahtsay
09-30-2010, 19:55
Hi bro,
Sorry if my comments in Laoag made you feel uncomfortable, it was not meant to be so. I said it w/ a feeling of paghanga, every bite you took was w/ great enthusiasm and enjoyment, but your pacing was without any form of rushing, and as I watched you from afar I couldnt help but be envious w/ that and could almost taste your food, sarap na sarap :wavey:

About the software, every long break from live fire is an opportunity for me to study my past perf and improve on it. Also if there were bad habits I wanted to change, its always easier for me to do away from the range. Your term "reformat" is dead on... agree on your theory about reading vs watching but on a different tone. Most of the time I like reading a book more than watch that same book on film. By reading, I could digest it at my own pace, and at my own perception..mebe am weird? ...Serioso na eto, ha!:upeyes:

Humahanga ka sa akin sa kainan, ako naman humahanga sa bilis mo mag shoot with a Glock! :rofl:
As for reading, I think that's what the books are there for. For you to imagine in your head what you are reading, which in turn forces your brain to function. Therefore different people will come out with different experiences in reading the same book. In watching tv, your brain can have less activity while still giving you the same amount of "entertainment". :supergrin:

Wp.22
10-01-2010, 07:28
prospect wood number 1. In order for me to use this i need to cut in two and wood glue it so that the wood worker will have more working space.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC2682.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC2680.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC2683.jpg

Eye Cutter
10-01-2010, 07:39
pot, penge rin ako, ha!?!

palagyan mo mga dowels para maganda kapit ng glue!

Putok-Glock
10-01-2010, 17:10
Humahanga ka sa akin sa kainan, ako naman humahanga sa bilis mo mag shoot with a Glock! :rofl:


simbilis din magmiss! nauna ka sa akin sa umpisa but at the end of the match mas madami miss ko kesa sayo:embarassed:

I started my dry fire regimen yesterday and I planned to do it daily during the ban period unless my work and health prevent me from it. Btw, Im shifting to 2011/1911 platform. I was frustrated by my glock jamming 3x in that stage where we open a door tapos may 2 running target sa dulo. remember that? yung stage ni Norman D, where I tried in vain to make a missed shot into a 1 hole issue? shame on me! after hitting the activator the glock jammed, recovered then jammed, recovered then jammed again! ayun naka tago na 2 running targets! so, pahinga muna sya:steamed:My sti and para have reliability probs din but I will work on them after the ban. No use working on them now, cannot test fire them anyway.

Putok-Glock
10-01-2010, 17:43
prospect wood number 1. In order for me to use this i need to cut in two and wood glue it so that the wood worker will have more working space.



bro, thats a beauty!

I can see you know what you are on to, but just to make sure...when you cut and glue it, make the grain patterns and colors perfectly symmetrical on all sides inside and outside para kahit saan tabas ng worker symmetrical pa din grains on both sides.

also, check that the wood species is not prone to warping due to moisture and temperature changes. In my observation, ung may magagandang grain patterns and colors yun din ang masyadong magalaw, kahit kiln-dried na. Even if you seal the finished work from the outside. And we know what that does to clearances on the action-to-stock fit. Its bad to say the least. Its one reason why they make laminated wood stocks.

pardon my unsolicited advise, I just want your proj to be 101% succesful....:wavey: but take it w/ agrain of salt, im an amateur

batangueno
10-01-2010, 17:50
Pot, yung Rogunz daw sa may Taguig puede magpagawa ng custom stock, bring your own wood.

Wp.22
10-01-2010, 18:34
Pot, yung Rogunz daw sa may Taguig puede magpagawa ng custom stock, bring your own wood.

Thanks paul, sige i'll ask sa kanila kung pwede. i want to finish this project na minamal cash out meaning libre lahat from wood to pag gawa hehehehe.

Im prepping the wood scheduled na siya for cutting and next week kung pumasok na yung wood worker ( nag ka pigsa eh) start na rin yung pag gawa.

As per Doc EC dapat daw may dowel so papatorno pa ako para may magamit ako dowel pins.

Wp.22
10-01-2010, 18:37
bro, thats a beauty!

I can see you know what you are on to, but just to make sure...when you cut and glue it, make the grain patterns and colors perfectly symmetrical on all sides inside and outside para kahit saan tabas ng worker symmetrical pa din grains on both sides.

also, check that the wood species is not prone to warping due to moisture and temperature changes. In my observation, ung may magagandang grain patterns and colors yun din ang masyadong magalaw, kahit kiln-dried na. Even if you seal the finished work from the outside. And we know what that does to clearances on the action-to-stock fit. Its bad to say the least. Its one reason why they make laminated wood stocks.

pardon my unsolicited advise, I just want your proj to be 101% succesful....:wavey: but take it w/ agrain of salt, im an amateur

Thanks PG. i will leave it to the expert im just gathering the materials. Once the stock is finished i'll make sure it is floated and bedded.

Eye Cutter
10-02-2010, 00:25
pot: pa-torno mo na sa design na pinost ko ha?

Wp.22
10-02-2010, 02:23
pot: pa-torno mo na sa design na pinost ko ha?

anong design ang papatorno ko dowels lang

Eye Cutter
10-02-2010, 10:18
eto, pa torno mo na sa rough shape ng stock, tapos yung woodworker ninyo ang mag finish

http://www.rimfiretechnologies.com/v/vspfiles/photos/categories/42.jpg

Putok-Glock
10-02-2010, 19:38
Thanks PG. i will leave it to the expert im just gathering the materials. Once the stock is finished i'll make sure it is floated and bedded.

Bro, supplier ka ba ng mga exotic wood? Is there a chance na may mga kapatid pa yung wood plank sa proj mo? Napakaganda nung material mo and I wonder what specie is that. It re-kindled a long time dream of mine thats similar to your proj now. But it remained a dream til now due to difficulty in supply for a good material.

Wp.22
10-02-2010, 20:47
Bro, supplier ka ba ng mga exotic wood? Is there a chance na may mga kapatid pa yung wood plank sa proj mo? Napakaganda nung material mo and I wonder what specie is that. It re-kindled a long time dream of mine thats similar to your proj now. But it remained a dream til now due to difficulty in supply for a good material.

PG, no sir hindi kami supplier na accumulate lang yan over the years of collecting ng uncle ko. The picture above is a kamagong if not mistaken. Don't worry sir PG pag sumobra at pwede pa
magamit i will share naman.

Wp.22
10-02-2010, 20:50
Actually im looking for place whete i can have my plank cut. The bansaw and table saw in the factory is not working anymore

Wp.22
10-05-2010, 02:46
was able to find a shop that could cut the hardwood ( kamagong ). I had it cut in two pieces according to our driver the shop had difficulty cutting it hehehe. Upon closer inspections there a lots of cracks in one of the planks parang hindi magagamit depende pa sa sasabihin ng gagagwa or else kamagong grips galore for 1911 ang magagawa. Will take a photo later.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC2692.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC2691.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC2693.jpg

Wp.22
10-11-2010, 04:05
Today went to tomas mapua to buy end mill bit and core box bit or this project. I was able to get an end mill bit but not a core box bit. The core box will be use in making a canal for the barrel.

I went to all the stores there no stock for the size i wanted. I remember that we have a suking hardware near our olf office where we use to get our supplies before. Gave them a visit ibtold thrm i need a core box bit they a made a couple of call they found one but i need to come back since they will getbit from their supplier pa. After two hours i went back and the core box bit is waiting for me.

Will take photo later. Im excited start milling tomorrow wish me luck.

Eye Cutter
10-11-2010, 04:27
good luck sa pag mill pot! hahaha!

penge ng kamagong, papagawa ako grip for my para ord pistol

Wp.22
10-11-2010, 04:43
Dapat kinuha mo yung mga slats kahapon good for ilan gripds din yun

Eye Cutter
10-11-2010, 05:12
pagawa mo ako ng baton!

darwin25
10-18-2010, 18:24
uy ayos to ah. Naghahanap nga ako ng gumagawa ng stock e. Gusto ko ng wood stock for my SKS. I got my rifle with 3 different composite stocks but the original wood stock is gone. I would happily trade my 3 composite stocks for 1 original wood stock but no luck.

adenine
10-18-2010, 21:04
Bro, supplier ka ba ng mga exotic wood? Is there a chance na may mga kapatid pa yung wood plank sa proj mo? Napakaganda nung material mo and I wonder what specie is that. It re-kindled a long time dream of mine thats similar to your proj now. But it remained a dream til now due to difficulty in supply for a good material.

Bro PG, ask ko lang, do you know someone in our area na makakagawa ng rifle stock? Gusto ko din sana pagaya yung type ni Bro Eyecutter and Wp22 with a little bit of modification to my specs. I know a friend (Mang Tony) somewhere in Daraga, a long time friend doin some airgun mods. Kaso hanggang classic design lang sya, he never experiemented on new ideas. Sayang ang galing ang malinis sana sya mag finish ng kahoy. He is actually a furniture maker by profession.

Wp.22
10-18-2010, 23:00
update on the project.

Without me knowing our machinist/smith already started inletting and drilling the boyds stock with the use of our semi functioning end mill machine he was able to inlet the blank boyd's stock. The bits he used are core box bit 274x1/4 shank and end mill bit 1/2.

All along he was waiting for me and my instructions kaso tinira na pala nya. sadly he will on sick lleave because of sore eyes and glucoma removal procedure he told me that he will be out for two weeks. pak.

he still needs to make a hole for the magazine and slot for the bolt handle. All in all i was very happy ans satisfied.

some pictures

original stock and boyds
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC3079.jpg

receiver and barrel channel
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC3065.jpg

Trigger
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC3071.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC3070.jpg

Wp.22
10-18-2010, 23:01
how do i seal the wood what will i need?

Eye Cutter
10-18-2010, 23:36
wow! ganda potskie! sayang gunban pero it's almost over anyway! onga, how do you seal laminated wood? wax? lacquer?

papuntahin mo na lang sa akin para ma check-up ko eyes niya! patira mo na yung kamagong baton ko

Wp.22
11-09-2010, 21:20
for pillar bedding JB weld fresh from the airport
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/Photoon2010-11-10at1114.jpg

paltik454
11-09-2010, 22:43
how do i seal the wood what will i need?

Sir you can use SANDING SEALER and just brush it on the wood then sand it. Next step will be applying clear coat of your choice, I've been using polyurethane clear coat.:cool:

Eye Cutter
11-09-2010, 23:38
pot, pwede rin gamitin yung regular nabibili na epoxy pang bed

Wp.22
11-10-2010, 01:23
pot, pwede rin gamitin yung regular nabibili na epoxy pang bed

oo nga nanghihinayang nga ako kung ito ang gagamitin ko eh

darwin25
11-10-2010, 01:27
stock duplicator na lang kelangan mo Pot pwede mo na pagkakitaan yan.

darwin25
11-10-2010, 01:53
heto pot mukhang very easy to use

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUr5IFXNT0A

Eye Cutter
11-10-2010, 02:10
pot, pwede mo gamitin yung pang drawing!

Eye Cutter
11-10-2010, 02:18
$6975 wow! ang mahal!

http://wood-carver.com/unispecs.html

Wp.22
11-10-2010, 02:24
my rifle is 95% finish just saw it earlier. pwede ko na uwi mamayang 12:01 hehehehe. Will buy tru-oil sa hann during gunshow later ko na lang expoxy muhang di na kailangan eh.

Eye Cutter
11-10-2010, 02:32
pot, dami pala videos how to finish your rifle stock

http://www.youtube.com/user/MidwayUSA

Wp.22
11-10-2010, 02:59
panay nga nood ko nyan pati sa site ng boyds marami

mtho
11-10-2010, 05:54
squiresbingham at armscor me tinda ata pang finish ng wood

Wp.22
11-10-2010, 07:47
Liha to the max ako tonight

mtho
11-10-2010, 10:46
pa dremmel mo ke mco

darwin25
11-10-2010, 11:12
$6975 wow! ang mahal!

http://wood-carver.com/unispecs.html

Siguradong meron similar nyan na amachine na gawang china

Wp.22
11-11-2010, 20:11
tadahhhhhhhhh later na yung hi-res pic camphone muna
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/d790f166-1.jpg

will go megamall later to buy tru-oil

mtho
11-11-2010, 21:02
ganda

Wp.22
11-11-2010, 21:13
ganda

thanks mark the spark, buti na lang walng accessories yan rifle na kundi na BI na ako.

Eye Cutter
11-11-2010, 22:57
since megamall ka na, punta ka na st. francis square, buy ka na ng d'boys 'arris bipod

Wp.22
11-11-2010, 23:27
since megamall ka na, punta ka na st. francis square, buy ka na ng d'boys 'arris bipod

meron na ako 'arris bipod doc. papalagyan ko na lang ng swivel stud.

Wp.22
11-12-2010, 21:20
tru-oil for the stock later pwede na rin boysen hehehehe
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/Photoon2010-11-13at11142.jpg

Wp.22
11-17-2010, 09:12
I tried applying tru oil i even watch the video of randy boyd using the same material kaso palpak yata or di naintindahan yung instructions dadalhin ko na lang sa marunong mag varnish para sila na ang mag apply ng tru-oil

mtho
11-17-2010, 09:18
di ba ginagamitan lang ng basahan yan?

Wp.22
11-17-2010, 16:07
Pwde basahan kaso may step na wet sanding plus lumabas yung mga
mini imperfections ng stock

wingz
11-18-2010, 02:09
Pwde basahan kaso may step na wet sanding plus lumabas yung mga
mini imperfections ng stock


Lalabas talaga yung imperfections ng stock sir dahil glossy siguro yung oil na ginamit. If possible dun sa true oil you can have it coated twice with clear sanding sealer pag natuyo na. Then sanding paper work follows using #240 or #320 depending on your surface kung magaspang pa. Just be careful not to overdo the sanding to avoid damage sa base paint mo. Tapos 3rd coating ng clear sanding sealer and after matuyo; use #400 sanding paper for the final sanding. Clean the stock to remove the sealer dust. For the final coating you can use a semi-gloss clear finish para di masyadong makita yung mga naiwang imperfections ng stock na di nagamot ng sanding sealer.

Wp.22
11-18-2010, 02:27
Lalabas talaga yung imperfections ng stock sir dahil glossy siguro yung oil na ginamit. If possible dun sa true oil you can have it coated twice with clear sanding sealer pag natuyo na. Then sanding paper work follows using #240 or #320 depending on your surface kung magaspang pa. Just be careful not to overdo the sanding to avoid damage sa base paint mo. Tapos 3rd coating ng clear sanding sealer and after matuyo; use #400 sanding paper for the final sanding. Clean the stock to remove the sealer dust. For the final coating you can use a semi-gloss clear finish para di masyadong makita yung mga naiwang imperfections ng stock na di nagamot ng sanding sealer.

parang bigla ako napagod hehehe

wingz
11-18-2010, 07:54
It's not that hard sir. ang basic principle nito is that: retain your base color (true oil) or commonly known as stain using a lot of sanding sealer to seal off the wood surface. Ang property kasi ng sealer makunat yan pag natuyo kaya mas sealed yung surface ng wood stock mo if you applied it thrice: once after the staining; twice after sanding ng first coating then final sanding for topcoat finish. Ang topcoat purpose naman which is usually glossy is to repel the dirt and moist. Downside nga lang talagang makikita ung imperfections ng material pag meron, kaya maganda rin kung semi-gloss lang ang gagamitin na topcoat para magkaron ng semi-matte look. Sana lang naliha ng maganda yung bare stock mo bago na-applyan ng stain or base color. Para paglapat ng sanding sealer halos spot on na yung pagkakalapat ng coating minus the imperfections.

Wp.22
11-18-2010, 23:22
here is my rifle kita sa may bandang grip and thumbhole yung puti
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC3915.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC3906.jpg

wingz
11-19-2010, 16:39
here is my rifle kita sa may bandang grip and thumbhole yung puti
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/greenvtec/_DSC3915.jpg


Ganda ng natural wood lines! Ano yung puti sir?

Wp.22
11-19-2010, 18:09
Ganda ng natural wood lines! Ano yung puti sir?

i think varnish pa yun

wingz
11-20-2010, 02:51
i think varnish pa yun
Naku sir varnish whitening pala yan, either may reaction sa exterior yung varnish na ginamit or manipis yung pagkaka paint on the grip part. Medyo matrabaho remedy nyan, AFAIK you have to remove the varnish.

Wp.22
11-24-2010, 19:05
now its shinny after applying another coat of tru-oil. later will do another light sanding then will apply another coat of tru-oil and i will check if okay na to apply sanding sealer or another coat of tru-oil again.

Eye Cutter
11-24-2010, 23:17
try mo carnauba wax!

Wp.22
11-24-2010, 23:51
try mo carnauba wax!
bigyan mo ako ng konti bago bibili

Wp.22
11-24-2010, 23:53
i tried removing the trigger spring pak halfway pa lang ako sa pag alis ng screw di ko na tinuloy kinabahan ako baka di ko maibalik hehehe

Eye Cutter
11-25-2010, 00:00
si boss mike pina trigger job na niya kay churchil yung marlin rifle niya. di ko pa na try.

wala na ako carnauba wax. buy ka mother's or turtle wax

Wp.22
11-25-2010, 04:24
Pag okay yung kay boss mike pagawa ko din akin

Wp.22
11-25-2010, 04:25
Wala pa rin ako ptt dumaan ako sa armscor mcs