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Boxerglocker
10-10-2010, 23:35
Well took a day off to spend with my kids... had a great time but now home for the last few hours and been kinda bored. So much so that I did a Jack and decided to spend some OT $$$ I made yesterday on goodies for the XL650! :supergrin:

Redding Competion seating die... on the way, from Dillon along with a couple of odds and ends also ordered the powder drop Micrometer dial and powder reservior baffle from UniqueTek.

I have a couple of perma-coils to clamp down the toolhead and the installation tools to do so coming from a local fellow reloader that offered them to me in answer to another thread. I'll head down to the local specialty hardware supply place down the road tomorrow morning to get the 5-40 NC thread cap head allen screws for it as well.

Hmmm... RCBS lock out die is out of stock at Midway on Backorder, guess that fillling of the extra hole in the toolhead will have to wait. :whistling: unless...

shotgunred
10-11-2010, 05:02
It was such a nice day yesterday I was kicking myself for working overtime. Quite a difference. I know you guys in the inversion zone get more rain. Oh well Another day of overtime will pay for that 650 I want.

I am interested in seeing if clamping your tool head down is going to make much difference. Did you find a source for the bearings localy? That sounds like a nice upgrade.

ron59
10-11-2010, 05:27
I am interested in seeing if clamping your tool head down is going to make much difference. Did you find a source for the bearings localy? That sounds like a nice upgrade.

I have one of UniqueTek's "clamp down heads" (pre-drilled). It seems to make the OAL be slightly more consistent, that's about it.

Boxerglocker
10-11-2010, 06:42
I am interested in seeing if clamping your tool head down is going to make much difference. Did you find a source for the bearings localy? That sounds like a nice upgrade.

The tool head clamping just makes total sense to me. There isn't that much play in most cases but the mod just makes damm sense, especially when you see the tool head wiggle as your using it.
I ordered the bearing/washers for the shellplate at McMaster Carr. That upgrade like I said in my previous thread is definately a must do, makes a world of difference.


I have one of UniqueTek's "clamp down heads" (pre-drilled). It seems to make the OAL be slightly more consistent, that's about it.

Honestly, I was tempted to go that route. I can imagine they are well made but being a aircraft technician for 20 years and breaking down the fit and function of the mod. I just couldn't justifiy spending $40 all up, on mod that would cost me essentially maybe 99 cents to do. :dunno:

GioaJack
10-11-2010, 08:27
And people complain 'cause the LNL needs a shim under the powder measure... or just a simple rubber band. :whistling:


Jack

EL_NinO619
10-11-2010, 09:55
The more i know, the more i want a LNL...

PCJim
10-11-2010, 10:34
What's all this talk I keep seeing about people wanting a LNL?

Are you guys all having such a hard time with your reloading presses that you're now seeking out Little Nice Ladies? :cool:

Boxerglocker
10-11-2010, 12:43
The more i know, the more i want a LNL...

Why you don't think the LNL can use some enhancement? Do some reading over at a few of the other forums and you'll find plenty a problem and fix for pretty much any of the presses. The mods I am doing simply are for my convenience.... having micrometer bullet seater and powder dial make setting the OAL and charge weights a snap if using using different bullets/powders.

The bearing mod is a enhancement that even the LNL can benefit from both machines have shellplates that run without any true low friction bearing surface bearing, just makes sense to this aircraft technician of 20 years plus with a backround in engineering and tooling design that the mod would and does improve the machine. As far as the toolhead clamp down mod we are taking 0.002 variance here. I haven't measure the LNL bushings with a feeeler gauge as I have with the 650. However, I would put money of the fact that the production process for the LNL quick change bushing gives at least that much varience as well, however as I see it it's design would prevent the end user from taking that up in anyway.

What I am doing is no different that what I and other guys that buy a motorcyle do... enhancements for performance. I already stated in my first impressions post that the 650 worked well right out of the box.

Besides... it was raining... I was bored. :upeyes:

NDGlock
10-11-2010, 12:50
at least you weren't sleepless in seattle.....

Boxerglocker
10-11-2010, 12:52
And people complain 'cause the LNL needs a shim under the powder measure... or just a simple rubber band. :whistling:


Jack

Coming from a guy that bought a 1050 for the hell of it and stole the primer warning off his SDB to put on his LNL :whistling:



JK Jack:rofl:

Bello
10-11-2010, 14:15
box take some pics of your set up id like a shot or two of it!

Boxerglocker
10-11-2010, 15:48
box take some pics of your set up id like a shot or two of it!

I'll take some after all the enhancements are done and post. Should have it all dialed in my the end of the week.

shotgunred
10-11-2010, 16:04
And people complain 'cause the LNL needs a shim under the powder measure... or just a simple rubber band. :whistling:


Jack

Some people want a precision machine to be a precision machine. And some people are happy with rubber bands.:tongueout:

WiskyT
10-11-2010, 16:11
MY Lee1000 has zero mods, I'm wondering how much I can manage to load without a machine shop in my garage when I get my 650 mounted.

shotgunred
10-11-2010, 16:14
Your dad probably had it adjusted perfectly. You probably just need to pull the handle.

GioaJack
10-11-2010, 16:16
BG:

I have read the description of your intended modifications with interest, in fact I have so much interest I've read them 5 or 6 times. Sadly I don't understand a damn thing you're talking about and can only thank my lucky stars that there are people like you who can keep our world of technology moving forward. If technological advancement had been left up to me we'd still be living in caves although a I have no doubt that I some how would have been able to invent Viagra.

Your modifications sound intriguing and I have the utmost confidence that they will improve the operation of your 650 but if I may make one suggestion to help you enjoy the enhanced design... if the parts weigh more than several ounces, have your butler carry them up the stairs! You'll be glad you did... trust me. :whistling:


Jack

Boxerglocker
10-11-2010, 16:19
MY Lee1000 has zero mods, I'm wondering how much I can manage to load without a machine shop in my garage when I get my 650 mounted.


You don't need a machine shop... or need not make any mods to run a 650. It runs just fine. I already posted that I could load 100 rounds in under 6minutes with the 650 unmodified... can the Lee1000?

The enhancements I choose to do are my choice, for my convenience, for even smoother operation... cause like I stated before. I'm a little anal about my toys and my tools.

WiskyT
10-11-2010, 16:19
Your dad probably had it adjusted perfectly. You probably just need to pull the handle.

Yeah, thanks, I was just taking a gratuitous swipe at people who stare at things long enough they end up modifying them:poke:

Boxerglocker
10-11-2010, 16:25
BG:

I have read the description of your intended modifications with interest, in fact I have so much interest I've read them 5 or 6 times. Sadly I don't understand a damn thing you're talking about and can only thank my lucky stars that there are people like you who can keep our world of technology moving forward. If technological advancement had been left up to me we'd still be living in caves although a I have no doubt that I some how would have been able to invent Viagra.

Your modifications sound intriguing and I have the utmost confidence that they will improve the operation of your 650 but if I may make one suggestion to help you enjoy the enhanced design... if the parts weigh more than several ounces, have your butler carry them up the stairs! You'll be glad you did... trust me. :whistling:

Jack

:rofl: You kill me Jack...

EL_NinO619
10-11-2010, 16:45
I hear you Boxer, The 650 is a BAD A*$ machine. I am the same way. I want to always improve what i have. Beside i have heard once " What good would a man be if he does not improve the world he lives in."

n2extrm
10-11-2010, 19:30
And people complain 'cause the LNL needs a shim under the powder measure... or just a simple rubber band. :whistling:


Jack

Jack

No one is complaining, we just can't fathom why anyone would waste the price of a rubber band on such a press.

With the Dillon it makes sense to do upgrades. Like installing a new cam shaft in a 69 camaro, or carbon fiber rotors on a Ferrari. Money well spent on a fine machine.



:couch:

GioaJack
10-11-2010, 20:20
Jack

No one is complaining, we just can't fathom why anyone would waste the price of a rubber band on such a press.

With the Dillon it makes sense to do upgrades. Like installing a new cam shaft in a 69 camaro, or carbon fiber rotors on a Ferrari. Money well spent on a fine machine.



:couch:


Or alimony... no better investment. (Well, a hit man... or three, but that would be just plain wrong.)


Jack

Bello
10-13-2010, 15:25
Jack

No one is complaining, we just can't fathom why anyone would waste the price of a rubber band on such a press.

With the Dillon it makes sense to do upgrades. Like installing a new cam shaft in a 69 camaro, or carbon fiber rotors on a Ferrari. Money well spent on a fine machine.



:couch:

carbon fiber rotors on a ferrari is that metaphysically possible?