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Esox357
10-12-2010, 08:47
Which powder for shooting target loads out of a 1911. I'm not looking for max velocity something that will be accurate and fill the case? I plan on doing some varmint hunting with it as well. Want to stick to the 200 and 230 grain bullets. Thanks.

Boxerglocker
10-12-2010, 08:50
For what your asking WST without a doubt :wiggle:

4.8g with a Bear Creek RNHB moly coated bullet at 1.250 OAL is my standard .45ACP load.

tjpet
10-12-2010, 08:51
WST, you'll love it.

Jon_R
10-12-2010, 08:51
I use win 231 or HP-38 (Same Powder) for all my semi-auto rounds for normal velocity. 9/40/45. I am not sure if it is best but very versatile.

nitesite10mm
10-12-2010, 09:02
WST
Accurate #5
Unique

XDRoX
10-12-2010, 09:05
WST. You'll love it.

fredj338
10-12-2010, 09:39
I have to go WST, TJpet & I started the trend here.:cool: Burns clean, extreme accuracy, 1.5x the volumn / charge as TG, what's not to like?

Three-Five-Seven
10-12-2010, 09:48
I gotta get me some of that WST

dsmw5142
10-12-2010, 10:10
Solo 1000

American Select

WST

TACC GLOCK
10-12-2010, 10:13
I use HS-6 and have not had a problem yet.

wrx04
10-12-2010, 10:40
Whoops.... looks like WST is the general consensus. I just picked up 1lb of unique, so that is gonna have to work for my first batch of reloads. I will try WST next time.


Still waiting for my press though, hopefully it shows up this week.

nitesite10mm
10-12-2010, 11:06
Unique and 230-gr is a great combination. Expect to be very pleased. I have shot a bunch of it. It's not called Unique for nothin'....

Esox357
10-12-2010, 11:18
Thanks guys. WST wins this one. I will give it a shot!

Hound_dogs_01
10-12-2010, 11:21
I shoot 5.0grs of W231 with a 200gr SWCL.

Alex

Boxerglocker
10-12-2010, 11:40
Solo 1000

American Select

WST

I've read in the 1911 reloading forums that Solo 1000 is the new "in" powder for .45 ACP

I've used it for 9mm lead in 124g FMJ with good results and 147g LFP with ehh so, so outcome... only had a pound to try out though. May have to try it again and get another pound and evaluate it once again for both my 9mm and .45ACP standard loads. Would be nice to get a 8# jug of something I was truly happy with for both those loads.... save a little cash. Plus I like the peppery smell when it burns :supergrin:


Whoops.... looks like WST is the general consensus. I just picked up 1lb of unique, so that is gonna have to work for my first batch of reloads. I will try WST next time.


Unique is a tried and true favorite for .45ACP, you'll have good results with it too. Fred just started a fad with WST :supergrin:

cowboy1964
10-12-2010, 12:15
Which would also be good for 9mm? I was leaning toward Bullseye based on Lyman 49th and Modern Reloading.

fredj338
10-12-2010, 13:02
I use HS-6 and have not had a problem yet.

Works fine for full power laods, but does not burn completely at lower pressure levels, same for Unique. Run both above midrange levels & they do fine.

fredj338
10-12-2010, 13:04
Which would also be good for 9mm? I was leaning toward Bullseye based on Lyman 49th and Modern Reloading.
IMO, BE is only worthy as a low vel target powder in the 9mm, works ok in the 45acp, but WST just runs better. Buy a # & try it.:dunno:

Zombie Steve
10-12-2010, 14:57
Whoops.... looks like WST is the general consensus. I just picked up 1lb of unique, so that is gonna have to work for my first batch of reloads. I will try WST next time.


Still waiting for my press though, hopefully it shows up this week.

You'll be fine, and you can load them to full speed if you'd like.

sailor
10-12-2010, 15:17
Just to be different, I like Clays.

FLSlim
10-12-2010, 15:24
Makes me want to try WST, but I've been quite happy with Unique and BE for punching paper.

XDRoX
10-12-2010, 15:29
Makes me want to try WST, but I've been quite happy with Unique and BE for punching paper.

BE works great and is accurate. The only problem with it is it burns hot and dirty compared to WST. And my biggest complaint is it doesn't fill the case like WST. The more I read about bad accidents due to reloading the more happy I am that I use WST. I use it in 45, 9mm, and 38spl.

fredj338
10-12-2010, 15:54
Just to be different, I like Clays.
Be very careful w/ Clays in high pressure rounds like the 9mm & 40. It gets really spikey near the top end. Fine for bunnyfart loads, but even getting close to factory vel makes Clays a bit scarey.:wow:

Esox357
10-12-2010, 15:54
I like that unique can be used in everything but have heard it is "dirty". Thanks again guys for the replies I need to pick out some bullets, thinking rainer 230 grains and maybe a 200 grain hp type bullet for varmints and hunting? Any suggestions?

tango44
10-12-2010, 15:59
Win 231 for me!

BK63
10-12-2010, 17:59
Dang I have been a Unique man for the past 20 years but I guess I gotta try me some of that WST :supergrin:

shootingbuff
10-12-2010, 18:05
I have to go WST, TJpet & I started the trend here.:cool: Burns clean, extreme accuracy, 1.5x the volumn / charge as TG, what's not to like?

Yep F338 suggested WST when I was thinking Clays for the 45ACP and since I have been loading WST in the 40 and had it on hand I gave it a try. Works very well. I have shot Clays as well and it is a bit softer it seems, but nothing that is going to make a difference. I will keep my Clays for lt. SG loads and WST for 40 and 45ACP.

sb

fredj338
10-12-2010, 18:26
I like that unique can be used in everything but have heard it is "dirty". Thanks again guys for the replies I need to pick out some bullets, thinking rainer 230 grains and maybe a 200 grain hp type bullet for varmints and hunting? Any suggestions?

Unique runs fine as long as you keep the pressure up. It is not for light target loads. If you want to spank some varmints, there are several good 185gr bullets; 185gr Sierra is exc, so is the Nosler. Run them @ 1100fps, pretty much ruins anything smaller than 50# day. Not that many choices in 200gr.

dsmw5142
10-12-2010, 19:27
I've read in the 1911 reloading forums that Solo 1000 is the new "in" powder for .45 ACP

I've used it for 9mm lead in 124g FMJ with good results and 147g LFP with ehh so, so outcome... only had a pound to try out though. May have to try it again and get another pound and evaluate it once again for both my 9mm and .45ACP standard loads. Would be nice to get a 8# jug of something I was truly happy with for both those loads.... save a little cash. Plus I like the peppery smell when it burns :supergrin:

I love Solo 1000 for most of my needs.

4.3gr with 230gr BBI moly makes 169-170PF out of my G21sf stock barrel.

4.6gr with 180gr BBI moly makes a nice 172-174pf out of my G35 KKM barrel.

3.5gr with 147gr BBI moly makes 134-135pf out of my G34 stock barrel.

It works great with jacketed too. I just loaded up 600 Zero 180gr JHP's with 5.0gr for the monster match halloween weekend :supergrin:

tjpet
10-12-2010, 19:42
For the guys that like 231/HP-38 you owe it to yourselves to try WST. Same general characteristics but lighter charge weights, much cleaner burning, and slightly better accuracy.

As to varmint bullets I've killed plenty of jackrabbits, rockchucks, and more then a few coyotes with my standard .45ACP load of 5.0grns. WST/200grn. LSWC/900+fps, 5" barrel. Not dramatic, explosive, chunks-into-the-next-county kills but neat one-step flop over cash-outs.

Bob2223
10-12-2010, 19:54
I'm a big fan of WST for 45's , took Fred's advise and tried it and it's all I've used in 45's since.
Very accurate with 200 gn LSWC in my 1911.
Smells good too,,

Bob

ursoboostd
10-12-2010, 20:06
My go to load for 45 right now is below. I'm pretty happy with it. Have 1k of them loaded up now. -Wade-

230gr Xtreme plated ball
6.0gr of Unique
1.26" OAL
840fps

DoctaGlockta
10-13-2010, 06:08
Unique. It is all I've ever used. If it ain't broke.

mdlott
10-13-2010, 07:36
5.5 Grains of Unique/230 RN Copper plated tends to result in some FTE and stovepipes in my 30SF. Is this what some would call a "light" load? Should I move up to 6 grains? 3 different manual list a variety of charges/velocities ranging from 5.2 to well over 6 grains. Any advice here?
OAL is 1.240 and using Lee FCD to crimp to .470.

DoctaGlockta
10-13-2010, 08:37
5.5 Grains of Unique/230 RN Copper plated tends to result in some FTE and stovepipes in my 30SF. Is this what some would call a "light" load? Should I move up to 6 grains? 3 different manual list a variety of charges/velocities ranging from 5.2 to well over 6 grains. Any advice here?
OAL is 1.240 and using Lee FCD to crimp to .470.

I run around 6.0 - 6.2 grains with that bullet and that Gun.

fredj338
10-13-2010, 09:43
5.5 Grains of Unique/230 RN Copper plated tends to result in some FTE and stovepipes in my 30SF. Is this what some would call a "light" load? Should I move up to 6 grains? 3 different manual list a variety of charges/velocities ranging from 5.2 to well over 6 grains. Any advice here?
OAL is 1.240 and using Lee FCD to crimp to .470.
That is a very light load, less than 750fps. Bump itto at least 5.8gr, will get you around 800fps in the short bbl. Keep in mind the smaller guns don't run well on light loads.

Rico567
10-13-2010, 10:47
I like that unique can be used in everything but have heard it is "dirty". Thanks again guys for the replies I need to pick out some bullets, thinking rainer 230 grains and maybe a 200 grain hp type bullet for varmints and hunting? Any suggestions?

If you want to avoid the "dirty," try Hodgdon's Universal. Close in burning rate to Unique without the dirt. I use Titegroup in .45 ACP. It's dirty, but, as a friend once remarked, "You clean your guns, don't you?"

grenadier
10-13-2010, 10:51
Faster burning powders are the key here.

The .45 ACP cartridge, being a low pressure entity, tends to do better with faster powders at the milder end, and medium speed powders at the higher end.

I primarily use two powders these days for the .45 ACP:

Vihtavuori N320 - Ultraclean burning, virtually no muzzle flash, exceptionally consistent, meters great, and works perfectly in the lower end loads. I use 5.0 grains to propel a 230 grain FMJ round nose.

Alliant Power Pistol - Better for +P / upper end loads, or else you end up with unburnt powder.