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Ol' Dirty
10-18-2010, 22:23
I just sent a jam-tastic Kimber down the road and need a new 1911. I'm in the market for an American pistol without the stupid front cocking serrations. So what can you fine gents tell me about the Smith 1911s? The performanc center is out of my league, just looking into the base models.

Esox357
10-18-2010, 22:35
I just got mine and love the way it looks and feel. I'm new to the 1911 world but this thing is fitted perfectly. It is tight as can be. The reviews I have read online were good about this pistol and that S&W did it right. I have yet to shoot mine so I can't comment yet on how it functions. I will report back in a week or two. Esox357.

tx787
10-18-2010, 22:44
Check out the 1911 subforum on GT, but the consensus is that they are great, they benefit from S&W's CS if there is an issue. Only downside is 1911 purists would frown upon the external extractor, but that's how S&W semiautos have been made for eons. I will be seriously considering the S&W1911PD with rail, Kimber TLE, and Springfield TRP as my xmas gift to myself.

Ol' Dirty
10-18-2010, 22:53
I'm one of the oddballs. I like things old and original but the external extractor and schwartz safety don't bother me. After the Kimber I'm looking for reliability #1.

rvrctyrngr
10-19-2010, 05:55
My Smith PD has over 2K through it with zero issues. My favorite carry gun...It does have the FCS, though...which I happen to like on a carry gun.

bac1023
10-19-2010, 06:30
I like my SW1911 quite a bit. :)

Tactical black
10-19-2010, 07:51
It does seem that every S&W 1911 owner I know is really happy which is more then I can say about Kimber.

GVFlyer
10-19-2010, 08:36
Smith & Wesson has a long history in the manufacture of 1911s, they were making them for everyone else before they started making 1911s for themselves.

PlasticGuy
10-19-2010, 11:26
Smith & Wesson has a long history in the manufacture of 1911s, they were making them for everyone else before they started making 1911s for themselves.
Not exactly. They were manufacturing some parts for other companies, but that's all.

GearGuru
10-19-2010, 11:33
I carry a 1911PD nearly every day on the job. Flawless after 4K rounds. Only 2 FTF and that was with 45+P when I needed to replace my recoil spring.

For the $$$, this one has been a rock solid gun.

bac1023
10-19-2010, 12:07
Smith & Wesson has a long history in the manufacture of 1911s, they were making them for everyone else before they started making 1911s for themselves.

:dunno:

I know they were doing frames and parts. I don't believe they built any complete guns, but I could be wrong.

Boots45acp
10-19-2010, 12:39
My SW1911 108282 has been VERY Reliable and VERY Accurate.

Very pleased with mine.

GVFlyer
10-19-2010, 13:29
:dunno:

I know they were doing frames and parts. I don't believe they built any complete guns, but I could be wrong.

You're exactly right, sorry if I seemed to imply that they were making complete guns for resale under another label.

COLDSTEEL165
10-19-2010, 21:57
I bought a S& W 1911 2 months ago NIB for $830.00 & I just recieved my Alessi bodyguard rig for it also, I haven't shot it as of yet but planning to put the 5oo rds through it anytime soon, I did buy a couple of Virgil Tripp's Cobra Mag's for it also. The only change that I made on the gun was that I installed a set of Pachmyer rubber combat grip's with the finger grooves, on it.

dragonmalice
10-23-2010, 17:19
I gotta go with the crowd on this one - I bought the S&W because of all the positive reviews, and mine has lived up to them so far. Perfect function with everything I've fed it.

AWMP
10-23-2010, 18:26
I have a 1911PD that has been perfect, never a problem one. Light, carries well and shoots even better. The only thing that compares is my M&P 45 mid size with Apex inside. The customer service of the company speaks loads for the company.

.45Super-Man
10-23-2010, 18:37
Easily in the top 2-3 at their price level. In terms of reliability, they take a back seat to no one.

MajorD
10-24-2010, 15:41
Correct me if wrong but I thought all the S&W's had front serrations?
never wrong to consider Colt as well.

Texas Bulldog
10-24-2010, 15:55
It does seem that every S&W 1911 owner I know is really happy which is more then I can say about Kimber.
YUP

I can say that too....

MD357
10-24-2010, 16:26
Correct me if wrong but I thought all the S&W's had front serrations?
never wrong to consider Colt as well.

This.

When I think of American and no FCS, I think of a Colt. Colt uses better small parts than S&W anyways.

Cobra64
10-24-2010, 17:16
Colt uses better small parts than S&W anyways.

You think so? The following are photos of a brand new Colt WWI 1918 Reproduction.

The ejector snapped after 37 rounds of Blazer ball ammo. The machining is pathetic. The barrel bushing is .005" oversized resulting in 5" groups bench rested at 15 yards.

A female high school shop class drop-out could do a better job than this:


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Colt%201911%20WWI%201918/P1040089.jpg



<img src="http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Colt%201911%20WWI%201918/P1040088.jpg">



<img src="http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Colt%201911%20WWI%201918/P1040085.jpg">



http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Colt%201911%20WWI%201918/P1040091.jpg



http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Colt%201911%20WWI%201918/P1040092.jpg



If someone gave me a new current production Colt, I wouldn't even take it out of the box.


My Smith & Wesson 108284 has been flawless with 1,500 rounds down the pipe.

rvrctyrngr
10-24-2010, 17:23
Correct me if wrong but I thought all the S&W's had front serrations?
never wrong to consider Colt as well.

Nah. There are numerous SW 1911s w/out FCSs.

Smith and Wesson 1911s (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_757754_-1_757752_757751_image)

.45Super-Man
10-24-2010, 17:52
The earliest Dan Wessons had Essex frames. Shortly afterwards, S&W became their vendor and they did an excellent job! This was prior to Smith producing their own, so they had experience for several years prior to assuming their own production. My Pointman(see avatar)is a good example not only of DW's earlier work, but of S&W's as well. You should see what these things bring in on gunbroker, provided you can even find one!

ultraspec
10-24-2010, 20:14
My 1911PD commander size has been flawless out of the box.

ultraspec
10-24-2010, 20:15
Watch those mags they are using though, just found a crack in the feedlip of the mag. These being act mags with s&w stamp

.45Super-Man
10-24-2010, 23:54
Watch those mags they are using though, just found a crack in the feedlip of the mag. These being act mags with s&w stamp

Agreed! ACT mags are extremely flimsy.

Russ424
10-25-2010, 04:34
I have no experience with S&W 1911's but I have a couple of there revolvers. I had to use there customer service once for what was my fault! They fixed my gun for free and paid shipping both ways. My friend had a simular experience with there customer service. S&W has the best customer service bar none!!!!!

ComeAndGetThem
10-25-2010, 06:41
I also had HUGE issues with 2 different Kimbers. Neither one ever fired a complete magazine without a malfunction of some type. My S&W 1911PD has been 100% since opening the box.

FM12
10-25-2010, 08:26
I'm on my second 108284, love it, outstanding weapons!

RED64CJ5
10-25-2010, 09:07
I only wish I had bought a second SW1911 when they first came out. At $550, it was the best bargain for a new pistol I'd bought. I really felt like I was getting something of quality for my money. I still think they are reasonably priced, but out of my league.

I'm very pleased with my SW1911 and I would likely part with all my Glocks before I had to get rid of it.

PlasticGuy
10-25-2010, 09:18
Watch those mags they are using though, just found a crack in the feedlip of the mag. These being act mags with s&w stamp
I can verify this. I have an SW1911 with the Officers sized frame and 4.25" barrel. It's a wonderful carry gun, but I can't get through 3 rounds between malfunctions with the factory mags. It runs like a sewing machine with my Wilson mags though. Go figure. Another nice pistol with crappy mags. Very common in the 1911 market, in my experience.

Hogpauls
10-25-2010, 09:37
I've had my S&W 1911 for a few years with a couple thousands rounds and not one hiccup. I wouldn't hesitate buying another. I love how accurate it is, makes me look good at the range. I still have the original ACT mags with no cracking, then again they aren't left loaded. The only thing I do dislike is the silly warning on the slide.

The S&W website shows a few models w/o front cocking serrations but the 1911PD shows they do have them.

Ol' Dirty
10-25-2010, 22:20
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z200/Dirtbag_019/108285.jpg

Thanks, fellas. This is what I had in mind for a basic 1911 that still had a beavertail and decent trigger. Add a set of Heinies and get rid of the lawyer language with a healthy dose of KG gunkote and this will be a winner.

FM12
10-27-2010, 09:02
I'm on my second 108284 model. Had to sell the fisr to make a truck payment or some such thing. Both are/have been 100% reliable and Gold Cup accurate. I love em!! Work with any cheap magazine any ammo too (so far) even my stubby 185 grain Zero HP reloads.