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RWBlue
10-19-2010, 15:57
Show me your grip on your 1911.
Not "the grip".
You holding the gun.
I am interested in the thumb side when using extended slide release and safety levers.

Quack
10-19-2010, 16:34
i don't use an extended slide release...

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1055318068_egt3r-L.jpg

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1055319044_9j5ax-L.jpg

some more info for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48
http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_training/combatg_100306/index.html

bac1023
10-19-2010, 16:46
Which one is you Quack?

I grip my 1911 the exact same way, trying to keep my thumbs pointed at the target.

Quack
10-19-2010, 16:53
the one with the 1911 :rofl:

in the first pic, i'm in the blue rain jacket, and knedrgr is in the green jacket.

despite haven't a lower round count, the 1911 won against Glocks in both "lumberjack" matches :supergrin:

vs. knedrgr
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/LMI%20Fighting%20Pistol%201/DSC_1710.jpg

vs our friend Evan (ran out of ammo after 3 full mags for his G22)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/LMI%20Fighting%20Pistol%201/DSC_1808.jpg

Hokie1911
10-19-2010, 17:03
I don't worry about where my thumb is pointing...just my BANGSTICK.

http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/thug_sideways_pistol_aim.jpg

Quack
10-19-2010, 17:09
and if the OP is a lefty, this is what it would look like:

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1055362122_U4w3i-L.jpg

polizei1
10-19-2010, 17:30
Only thing I can say is that Quack's grip looks very good. How the Marine Corps has taught me is the same way Quack is gripping, except instead of both thumbs being "online" with one-another, put the left thumb over the right thumb. Both thumbs point to the target.

Try that Quack...you might not like it, but in my experience and apparently the Marine Corps', it gives a tighter fit to the pistol. I believe this also forces someone to not limb-wrist.

bac1023
10-19-2010, 17:41
I don't worry about where my thumb is pointing...just my BANGSTICK.

http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/thug_sideways_pistol_aim.jpg

:rofl::rofl:

bac1023
10-19-2010, 17:42
the one with the 1911 :rofl:




:rofl::rofl:

ron59
10-19-2010, 18:16
Not to hijack the thread... but what is a LUMBERJACK match? Is the idea to "chop down" the target stands? Because that looks like what you did there.

Quack
10-19-2010, 18:31
yep, shoot the leg out of one of the target stands.
It's what our trainer does at the end of his classes.

Hokie1911
10-19-2010, 18:34
the one with the 1911 :rofl:

in the first pic, i'm in the blue rain jacket, and knedrgr is in the green jacket.

despite haven't a lower round count, the 1911 won against Glocks in both "lumberjack" matches :supergrin:

vs. knedrgr
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/LMI%20Fighting%20Pistol%201/DSC_1710.jpg



The target dude in the green t-shirt looks like Ron Jeremy. :rofl:

RWBlue
10-19-2010, 18:46
Thumb is on top of the safety right?

Quack
10-19-2010, 18:50
Thumb is on top of the safety right?

yep...on top of the thumb safety

RWBlue
10-19-2010, 18:51
Thanks, a so called "professional" was showing me something wrong.

Quack
10-19-2010, 19:04
Thanks, a so called "professional" was showing me something wrong.

i'm not a professional, nor claim to be.

here's a friends wife on her first trip to the range. i worked with her and she shot better than her husband. she kept locking her elbows, but she shot the G24 really well.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/DSC_1942.gif

knedrgr
10-19-2010, 19:27
How things have changed since that class...

I have the same grip as Quack. Both thumbs forward. Primary hand on top of the thumb safety, while the support hand is on the frame.

Sling shot FTW, I don't use the slide release.

Quack
10-19-2010, 19:30
How things have changed since that class...

I have the same grip as Quack. Both thumbs forward. Primary hand on top of the thumb safety, while the support hand is on the frame.

Sling shot FTW, I don't use the slide release.

we should get the group together for another class.

Quack
10-19-2010, 19:34
Here's a pic of knedrgr when he was shooting my TRP back in 2006 and before he owned any guns. he changed his grip and his shooting greatly improved.

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/Friends/Misc/Cuongrange1/69169987_zXRiS-O.jpg

knedrgr
10-19-2010, 19:35
we should get the group together for another class.

I'm gamed for that. It would be nice to see that certificate from the first class... :upeyes:

The_Drizzle
10-21-2010, 17:34
Some may not agree with me but I think all the talk about "how to grip a gun properly" is overrated. Not to say there is not a right and a wrong way, but if you can hit what you are aiming at, then I would say it is the right way for you.

Most would say I put too much finger on the trigger of my 1911. I put the front of my long trigger in the joint of my first knuckle, but it works for me.

Find a grip that works for you and use it. Tom Knapp shoots his shotgun upside down and backwards and hits target.

samuse
10-21-2010, 18:05
I hate shooting with my thumb on top of the safety. It feels lopsided to me.

It's just a pistol, you don't need to choke it to death or have a white knuckle death grip on it.

knedrgr
10-21-2010, 18:11
Tom Knapp shoots his shotgun upside down and backwards and hits target.

You're talking about apples to oranges comparison here.
1) pro vs. hobby shooter
2) long-gun vs pistol.
3) multi pellets vs single bullet.

GVFlyer
10-21-2010, 18:41
Only thing I can say is that Quack's grip looks very good. How the Marine Corps has taught me is the same way Quack is gripping, except instead of both thumbs being "online" with one-another, put the left thumb over the right thumb. Both thumbs point to the target.

Try that Quack...you might not like it, but in my experience and apparently the Marine Corps', it gives a tighter fit to the pistol. I believe this also forces someone to not limb-wrist.

That is the same grip that the Army taught me at the Marksmanship Training Academy at Grafenwoehr, Germany.

polizei1
10-21-2010, 19:09
That is the same grip that the Army taught me at the Marksmanship Training Academy at Grafenwoehr, Germany.

Well I'm sure there is a reason for that. :cool: It seems to work quite well.

rsxr22
10-21-2010, 19:51
we should get the group together for another class.

What class did you guys attend Don?

The_Drizzle
10-21-2010, 19:54
You're talking about apples to oranges comparison here.
1) pro vs. hobby shooter
2) long-gun vs pistol.
3) multi pellets vs single bullet.

Well, yes. All I meant was that good shooting can be accomplished with any kind of grip. I think it is more important to grip the gun however it is comfortable to you, and then practice.

Quack
10-21-2010, 20:02
the last class we did was the LMI Fighting Pistol 1 class, with some friends that were getting their CHL training. the FP1 class was part of his CHL class. They did ~6hours of class room stuff on saturday, then 8 hours (i think we did close to 10 hours) of shooting on sunday. it was outdoors in the cold (high 40's/low 50's) and it was raining, but was fun.

http://lmiinc.com/Tactical_Pistol1.html

rsxr22
10-21-2010, 20:16
the last class we did was the LMI Fighting Pistol 1 class, with some friends that were getting their CHL training. the FP1 class was part of his CHL class. They did ~6hours of class room stuff on saturday, then 8 hours (i think we did close to 10 hours) of shooting on sunday. it was outdoors in the cold (high 40's/low 50's) and it was raining, but was fun.

http://lmiinc.com/Tactical_Pistol1.html

If you get something in the works soon, let me know. If its not a problem, id definitely join in on the fun and could probably bring another 3-4 guys with as much training as I. His instruction is MUCH cheaper than many schools i had been looking into.

Quack
10-21-2010, 20:22
sure...he's at the gunshows every now and then. i was thinking about taking his cold weather or low light pistol class. one thing i did learn is that Slide Glide lite did not work well in the temps (upper 40's/low 50's) that we took our last class in.

you get your stuff in yet?