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wrx04
10-27-2010, 18:59
Considering how knowledgeable most of you guys are, i assume most of you can shoot the lights out. What do your typical groupings look like? Say indoor range, 7 yards, slow fire....single hole/1" spread/more?

Right now, if i FOCUS, i end up with about a 2.5" spread with eight rounds. I tend to get impatient though, and shoot a little quicker....usually end up with a 4" hole in the target with maybe 3 or 4 fliers after 100 rounds. Just trying what a good goal is while i practice.

knedrgr
10-27-2010, 19:12
first time with my DW CCO. 50 rounds at 7 yards. A few fliers.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/fourstardrift/Guns%20stuff/DSC_0028-1.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/fourstardrift/Guns%20stuff/DSC_0027-1.jpg

1006
10-27-2010, 19:22
Here is my best effort at 25 yards with a 2 handed grip-- with my S&W model 64.

Six shots--2 on the X

Hokie1911
10-27-2010, 19:24
I am nowhere near the shot of the fine gents I shoot with (Quack & Knedrgr), but this is my best target so far...

30 rounds @ 7 yards. Federal 9mm from a Kimber ProCarry2. First shot was high right...the rest a little better.

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/409b061b.jpg

wrx04
10-27-2010, 19:26
I will take a camera and calipers to the range tomorrow to see what mine actually looks like. Ive been shooting my reloads lately (and i'm a rookie at it), so maybe i'll shoot some WWB just so its consistent. Thanks for posting your pics guys

ambluemax
10-27-2010, 19:41
Honestly I could care less. I'm a sharpshooter level IDPA competitor who is usually in the hunt to win CDP and top 10 overall in our club matches. That's how I measure my skill level. A 4" group scores the same as an oblong hole, after that the only thing that matters is how quickly you solve the problem.

wrx04
10-27-2010, 19:48
Honestly I could care less. I'm a sharpshooter level IDPA competitor who is usually in the hunt to win CDP and top 10 overall in our club matches. That's how I measure my skill level. A 4" group scores the same as an oblong hole, after that the only thing that matters is how quickly you solve the problem.

I like that. And you are right, it doesnt even matter. I am assuming though, the good IDPA shooters could make a pretty tight group if they took their time.

I am planning to start shooting IDPA after i get a couple months of more practice. I tried some rapid fire at the range today and managed to keep all the rounds in the "A" zone, guess thats all that matters in competition, or real life for that matter.

Aiden
10-27-2010, 19:55
I haven't shot my .45 slide in awhile since I'm waiting on a batch of Wilson followers, but I did shoot a couple hundred .22lr two days ago in a quick range trip between studying for tests. Sorry for not shooting the manly caliber.:crying:All shots two-handed standing.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj138/aidensana/gun%20range/IMG_1844-1.jpg

Lots of fliers, I'm still new to shooting so I tend to shoot just to shoot when I'm by myself. 7yards, 10 shots at each 2inch square. Started at the bottom and worked my way up. Winchester bulk
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj138/aidensana/gun%20range/IMG_0271.jpg

20 rounds of Aguila Interceptor gave me my best 7yard groupings of the day. 2inch squares
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj138/aidensana/gun%20range/IMG_0272.jpg

My 15 yard bullseye target, 10 shots of Winchester bulk
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj138/aidensana/gun%20range/IMG_0274.jpg

I concentrated really hard on this one (didn't rush and worked for a steady trigger pull every time), last target of the day, and had compensated for shooting low and to the right. First shot was dead center. 25 yards with Federal bulk. 30 rounds on standard bullseye target. Best shooting I've done in awhile

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj138/aidensana/gun%20range/IMG_0273.jpg

Hokie1911
10-27-2010, 19:56
Well I am not a competition shooter and I also could honestly care less how tight my groups are. If I am under a high stress adrenaline infused SD situation and I should happen to fire my weapon, if I can keep my rounds to a 6" group in BG's chest, they will be effective and I may walk away with my life. :supergrin:

Glockdude1
10-27-2010, 19:57
My G27 will shoot a one shot group at 100yds. I can cover it with a nickel.

:cool:

Aiden
10-27-2010, 20:05
I'm just hoping the patience and trigger work put into shooting a tight group will translate to "A" zone hits when I start shooting USPSA.

wrx04
10-27-2010, 20:15
Well I am not a competition shooter and I also could honestly care less how tight my groups are. If I am under a high stress adrenaline infused SD situation and I should happen to fire my weapon, if I can keep my rounds to a 6" group in BG's chest, they will be effective and I may walk away with my life. :supergrin:

Without a question, thats all you need in a self defense situation. Hell, i was probably good enough to do that after only a few weeks (maybe days) after i started shooting.

The thing is, if i'm gonna make this my hobby, i wanna be able to show off a little:cool:

ctfireman
10-27-2010, 20:21
If i bare down & focus i can keep em at about 2" at 7 yards. Though i generally practice more for defensive shooting on silhouettes.

Hokie1911
10-27-2010, 20:44
Without a question, thats all you need in a self defense situation. Hell, i was probably good enough to do that after only a few weeks (maybe days) after i started shooting.

The thing is, if i'm gonna make this my hobby, i wanna be able to show off a little:cool:

Dude, if you want to show off...you merely need the proper tools.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/59/59346.jpg

wrx04
10-27-2010, 20:50
Dude, if you want to show off...you merely need the proper tools.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/59/59346.jpg

That thing is AWESOME!!:rofl::rofl:

Seriously, thats my next gun. Seriously.

Hokie1911
10-27-2010, 21:00
That thing is AWESOME!!:rofl::rofl:

Seriously, thats my next gun. Seriously.

Quack knows where you can find one...and Cerebrus knows where you can get pink grips for it. :whistling:

Quack
10-27-2010, 21:34
all shot hand held...

~10yards
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_9711.jpg

Kobra Carry @ 15yards
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_2422.jpg

2nd or 3rd magazine through Remington R1 @ 7yards
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Mobile%20Uploads/a91df0fc.jpg

first time shooting the Reminton at 15yards. 1st 4 shots were high as i was trying to see where the POA/POI was.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Mobile%20Uploads/4d130d34.jpg

15yards
http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1004558544_ujf6N-L.jpg

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1004558811_yFif6-L.jpg

GioaJack
10-27-2010, 21:43
Considering how knowledgeable most of you guys are, i assume most of you can shoot the lights out. What do your typical groupings look like? Say indoor range, 7 yards, slow fire....single hole/1" spread/more?

Right now, if i FOCUS, i end up with about a 2.5" spread with eight rounds. I tend to get impatient though, and shoot a little quicker....usually end up with a 4" hole in the target with maybe 3 or 4 fliers after 100 rounds. Just trying what a good goal is while i practice.


Hey rookie, we know where you've been hiding out... loaders have spies everywhere. :supergrin:

Before the advent of IPSC style shooting there were really only two pistol disciplines; NRA bullseye and PPC. Most older shooters typically started out with three gun NRA shooting, rimfire, .38 and .45, shot offhand at 25 and 50 yards. While certainly not as exciting as some of the more modern types of shooting and competition it provided for an excellent foundation in all forms of shooting sports.

Very few really get into bullseye style shooting anymore but given the opportunity do not pass it up... although different than what you may be used to it is every bit as challenging.

This is an example of one of my 'losing' targets shot at a NRA match. 25 yards offhand with a 6 inch model 19. (I used to shoot with some very, very good shots who made my groups look like shotgun patterns.)
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss114/GioaJack/IMG_4322.jpg?1288236471

Now get back over to reloading and learn how to stuff that 1911 of yours. :whistling:


Jack

brisk21
10-27-2010, 21:55
My G27 will shoot a one shot group at 100yds. I can cover it with a nickel.


Bob Munden!!! Is that you? HAHAHAHAHAH:rofl:
:cool:

Dude, if you want to show off...you merely need the proper tools.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/59/59346.jpg

I can't believe someone at Taurus saw this and said, "yeah, lets put it on the market!". This pistol would go good for someone who tries to dress REALLY fancy with the cheapest clothes they can find.

wrx04
10-27-2010, 22:33
Hey rookie, we know where you've been hiding out... loaders have spies everywhere. :supergrin:

Before the advent of IPSC style shooting there were really only two pistol disciplines; NRA bullseye and PPC. Most older shooters typically started out with three gun NRA shooting, rimfire, .38 and .45, shot offhand at 25 and 50 yards. While certainly not as exciting as some of the more modern types of shooting and competition it provided for an excellent foundation in all forms of shooting sports.

Very few really get into bullseye style shooting anymore but given the opportunity do not pass it up... although different than what you may be used to it is every bit as challenging.

This is an example of one of my 'losing' targets shot at a NRA match. 25 yards offhand with a 6 inch model 19. (I used to shoot with some very, very good shots who made my groups look like shotgun patterns.)
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss114/GioaJack/IMG_4322.jpg?1288236471

Now get back over to reloading and learn how to stuff that 1911 of yours. :whistling:


Jack

Very impressive buddy:thumbsup:

FM12
10-27-2010, 22:34
Seven yards? Why the long range shooting? At 7 yards, I can usually keep em on a paper plate. Usually. If its a BIG paper plate, LOL

ArmoryDoc
10-27-2010, 23:06
Kimber Pro Crimson Carry II - 14 rounds at 25 yards. Don't know the exact spread for certain.

http://www.kscch.com/1425yd.jpg

carguy2244
10-27-2010, 23:17
I usually shoot at 25/50/75 feet, mostly with my Glock 19. At 25 feet, most of the shots are in the 10 ring, 50 feet, 8 ring, 75 feet, 6 ring. I imagine different sights (I have TFOs) might allow a better sight picture for precision shooting.
Maybe a Les Baer would help too.

Herb Twoleaf
10-28-2010, 02:54
Sorry, no 1911 target pics, but in light of the Model 19 target above, here's my S&W 36 @ 15yd:

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh82/stagar15/molon%20labe/001-3.jpg

Yep. I took the one shot, packed up, and went home. :rofl:

Rinspeed
10-28-2010, 04:24
Seven yards? Why the long range shooting?





:rofl:

BFIBri
10-28-2010, 08:18
Not my with my 1911 but with my CZ SP-01.


http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/BFIBri/CZSP-01.jpg

ron59
10-28-2010, 08:55
Honestly I could care less. I'm a sharpshooter level IDPA competitor who is usually in the hunt to win CDP and top 10 overall in our club matches. That's how I measure my skill level. A 4" group scores the same as an oblong hole, after that the only thing that matters is how quickly you solve the problem.

I"m amused.

Do you ever want to make MASTER in IDPA? This attitude won't get you there. Read Enos' book. Read Burkett's book. They (and any other expert) will stress the need for accuracy, and I'm not talking "reasonable" accuracy, but DEAD EYE accuracy. If you can't shoot a ragged hole at 7 yards, and TIGHT groups at 25... you probably will never make Master. And honestly, the bar for IDPA Master just isn't that high. Most USPSA A/B shooters could probably make IDPA Master fairly easily. In fact, GSSF doesn't even RECOGNIZE IDPA Master as "Master". It's in the rules.

Enos says he starts EVERY practice session working on slow, dead-eye, accuracy (he doesn't use the phrase dead-eye, I'm using it to emphasize that your goal should be one ragged hole at ANY competition distance). If you're not doing the same thing... you will not rise to any serious level of expertise.

I made IDPA SSP after owning a gun for 5 months, not a big deal really (bought my G17 January of 2009 and classified with it June 5th of 2009). Never shot pistols much prior to that. Now, to be honest, I'm STILL SSP, but that's because I haven't shot a classifier in 16 months. I suspect I might could make Expert level by now, I'm curious but they don't hold many classifiers around here. Yes, for SSP you're fine. But if you want to be a master shooter, you will need some pretty damn fine accuracy.

If you're not spending some time working on tight group shooting... you're not improving as much as you could be.

Oh, to show one example of my shooting, here is a post from back in June:
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1232487
Not a ragged hole in this instance at all... but not a wide group either. This is the target I typically use for my "tight group practice" and I've had a few where it was a ragged hole, but then I'd throw one out of the black an inch and I wouldn't post a pic of that. It doesn't help that I always shoot TWENTY shots at one target, and while I can usually keep 18 of them inside the black, I'll usually throw at least one a bit.

ambluemax
10-28-2010, 08:55
I like that. And you are right, it doesnt even matter. I am assuming though, the good IDPA shooters could make a pretty tight group if they took their time.

I am planning to start shooting IDPA after i get a couple months of more practice. I tried some rapid fire at the range today and managed to keep all the rounds in the "A" zone, guess thats all that matters in competition, or real life for that matter.

Very true, the upper level guys are good shots (I'm probably better than I give myself credit for too, I just haven't tried in awhile). You can't miss fast enough to win past the marksman level. Its just with limited ammo and practice time- I put my efforts towards what I see as more practical shooting skills like draw and -0 hit, mag change and -0 hit, table pick up and zero hit....ect.

ron59
10-28-2010, 09:55
Very true, the upper level guys are good shots (I'm probably better than I give myself credit for too, I just haven't tried in awhile). You can't miss fast enough to win past the marksman level. Its just with limited ammo and practice time- I put my efforts towards what I see as more practical shooting skills like draw and -0 hit, mag change and -0 hit, table pick up and zero hit....ect.

This is pretty much how I practiced all last year. I know I'm pretty "decent", sounds like you are too. So i wasn't *criticizing* you for that mentality, it took me awhile to realize that "okay" accuracy will only get you so far, it's something that should be practiced as well as speed.

Here's is where I've seen the need to improve my accuracy... I love to shoot GSSF, I've already shot 6 this year with the 7th next month. There's one particular course of fire with targets at 25 yards (5 To Glock). Those are where I struggle the most to avoid points down. Even when I shoot *slow*, I have a problem keeping every shot within the 8" target. When I start to shoot fast (competitive instinct kicking in), it's even tougher.

So... after reading some books, and just seeing first hand where my weakness lies, I now spend the first part of each practice session working on accuracy. Even if it just one or two magazines worth, you could probably do it too.

Good luck.

ambluemax
10-28-2010, 10:42
I wasn't taking any comments personally. I just think a lot of shooters get too tunnel visioned on fine accuracy. Pistols are principly brunt force tools IMO. Fine work and tight groups are for rifle shooting IMO. Too many people put all their eggs in the accuracy basket instead of working on all the other dynamic skills of handgun proficency too (draws, reloads, clearance, movement, ect). A good dynamic pistol shooter is a much greater threat than a stricktly accurate pistol shooter IMO.

That said, the 20yd shots in the IDPA classifier are the only thing keeping me from being Expert and are currently the subject of a lot of my recent practice time. I need to figure out how to quickly get long -0's...

HAIL CAESAR
10-28-2010, 12:07
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/hailcaesar_photos/target-0045.jpg

4-8 round mags with one in the pipe starting. (If I remember correctly.)

Leaned up against a tractor tire to brace myself. I think the caliper is dialed in a 3.27'ish at 25 yards.

ron59
10-28-2010, 12:33
I wasn't taking any comments personally. I just thin a lot of shooters get too tunnel visioned on fine accuracy. Pistols are principly brunt force tools IMO. Fine work and tight groups are for rifle shooting IMO. Too many people put all their eggs in the accuracy basket instead of working on all the other dynamic skill of handgun proficency too (draws, reloads, clearance, movement, ect). A good dynamic pistol shooter is a much greater threat than a stricktly accurate pistol shooter IMO.

That said, the 20yd shots in the IDPA classifier are the only thing keeping me from being Expert and are currently the subject of a lot of my recent practice time. I need to figure out how to quickly get long -0's...

I certainly would never state that an action shooter (such as IDPA/USPSA/GSSF) should ONLY work on slow fire accuracy... just that it is something that should not be totally ignored. It is simply *one* of the components of action shooting... going along with the draws/reloads/doubletaps/etc. that you mention. Ignore any of those areas, and heated competition will expose it for the weakness that it is.

And yes... those long distance shots are the ones that will pinpoint any weaknesses in accuracy we have. :supergrin:

Last winter I couldn't even shoot a tight group FROM A REST at 7 yards. Now I'm getting pretty decent ones offhand at 7 yards, and have started working on group-shooting at 13 yards. I don't spend an entire session doing that, it is too exhausting. I simply start off with that, then switch to working on double-taps, transitions, etc.

Spiffums
10-28-2010, 12:52
I like that. And you are right, it doesnt even matter. I am assuming though, the good IDPA shooters could make a pretty tight group if they took their time.

I am planning to start shooting IDPA after i get a couple months of more practice. I tried some rapid fire at the range today and managed to keep all the rounds in the "A" zone, guess thats all that matters in competition, or real life for that matter.

They probably could, but when you train for speed AND accuracy it is hard to slow down.

okie
10-28-2010, 13:27
Springfield Armory loaded model at 7 yards, using S&B ammo:thumbsup:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/okie1911/00.jpg

BlayGlock
10-28-2010, 14:34
http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv239/BlayGlock/NHC/NighthawkPredator005.jpg

Recent group with my Nightahwk. 3X5 inch index card.

What I have been working on recently is shooting these cards at speed. I want to draw from concealment, and fire 2 rounds in 2.75 seconds scoring two hits at 7-10 yards no less than 85% of the time. Once my no-miss margin goes up past 95% I will move back to 15 yards and give myself an extra second or so. Yesterday I tested myself and did this 5 out of 5 times with no misses but my times averaged around the 3.15 sec mark. I am taking Todd Greene's aim fast hit fast class next April in Bryan, TX and I am pumped.

Hokie1911
10-28-2010, 15:18
Springfield Armory loaded model at 7 yards, using S&B ammo:thumbsup:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/okie1911/00.jpg

Nice one-shot grouping Okie. :tongueout:












J/K. Nice shooting sir. :thumbsup:

majette
10-28-2010, 15:38
here is a group i shot with a recently acquired walther p88 at 7 yds. first shot was DA, next four SA.

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9590/p887yd.jpg

here is a group i shot in an idpa match. three shots at speed about 10 yds away:

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/5920/mcoptarg.jpg

the force was strong with me that day. like Larry Vickers says, "Speed is fine. Accuracy is final." i have been doing idpa for almost a year and i classified as a novice. i shoot slower than the top people but my accuracy is good. i have been speeding it up some but i prefer to be accurate than fast.

wrx04
10-28-2010, 16:31
I went to the range today and took some pics of my groupings. The first pick is 8 rounds at 7 yards freehand shooting my reloads. Not bad, but i swear i ALWAYS have one or two that do not hit the same hole. The second one is 45 rounds.....you can see i lose focus sometimes and get a few fliers. Trying to work on that.

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6108/img1205w.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/img1205w.jpg/)

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wrx04
10-28-2010, 16:34
Springfield Armory loaded model at 7 yards, using S&B ammo:thumbsup:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/okie1911/00.jpg

This is what i want my target to look like.:cool:

custom2
10-28-2010, 17:26
WRX, it looks like you need to extend that group out another half inch. Fliers count too.

I don't understand why some of you will unload a mag into a target when trying to check the accuracy of your gun and your ability. 3-5 rounds will do.

Some of you guys look like you were shooting shotguns and only measure the big hole in the middle. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut sometimes. You gotta count the whole target, not just the ones you actually hit. Misses count.

rsxr22
10-28-2010, 17:29
ive never measured a group either. All the data i can give you is i can move real fast while maintaining 90% A hits or 0 depending on the game. I got into competition shooting so i wouldnt have to stand stagnent at the range anymore trying to see how small i could group. To each their own. I just find it SUPER boring. Probably the same reason i dont like shooting benchrest. Im ADD

Aiden
10-28-2010, 19:06
I don't understand why some of you will unload a mag into a target when trying to check the accuracy of your gun and your ability. 3-5 rounds will do.

Simple statistics. The more data you have, the better your data will be. 50 rounds into a ragged hole is better data than 5 rounds into 1 hole.

And I think someone's ability to maintain focus throughout 50 rounds speaks well of their skill when shooting.

Anyone can shoot 3 rounds into a target, get excited, and the next 5 shots will be all over the place.

Just my opinion.

wrx04
10-28-2010, 19:29
WRX, it looks like you need to extend that group out another half inch. Fliers count too.

I don't understand why some of you will unload a mag into a target when trying to check the accuracy of your gun and your ability. 3-5 rounds will do.

Some of you guys look like you were shooting shotguns and only measure the big hole in the middle. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut sometimes. You gotta count the whole target, not just the ones you actually hit. Misses count.

I'm trying to find the accuracy of ME....not my gun. I am positive my gun is WAY more accurate than i am. The rounds that fly off course are my fault, not the gun...99.99% of the time. More shots shows how consistent i am (or inconsistent for that matter).

wrx04
10-28-2010, 19:31
ive never measured a group either. All the data i can give you is i can move real fast while maintaining 90% A hits or 0 depending on the game. I got into competition shooting so i wouldnt have to stand stagnent at the range anymore trying to see how small i could group. To each their own. I just find it SUPER boring. Probably the same reason i dont like shooting benchrest. Im ADD

I would love to start this type of shooting.... sounds like a ton of fun. Where do you do this type of practice? I know all the ranges around me only allow the typical stand and shoot type stuff.

custom2
10-28-2010, 20:01
I would love to start this type of shooting.... sounds like a ton of fun. Where do you do this type of practice? I know all the ranges around me only allow the typical stand and shoot type stuff.


Start competing in organized shooting events. They are not usually held at public ranges and you usually have to qualify to enter.

HAIL CAESAR
10-28-2010, 20:06
Some "shoots" are just in the backyard.

custom2
10-28-2010, 20:06
I'm trying to find the accuracy of ME....not my gun. I am positive my gun is WAY more accurate than i am. The rounds that fly off course are my fault, not the gun...99.99% of the time. More shots shows how consistent i am (or inconsistent for that matter).

Makes sense but you could always hang more than one target or get more, smaller, groups on one target. My thought process is ,after the first 3 shots, it is very hard to really gauge how close to the first hole the other shots truly are. Maybe I'm over thinking it.

carloglock19
10-28-2010, 20:13
My son(12yo) and I hit the range last weekend. Here is a pic of our last outing with my Milspec and 19. To the left on the target is 50rds of .45 and to the right is my 12yo shooting the 19. We used WWB ammo @ 7yds. Not too bad I guess.

Cerebrus
10-28-2010, 20:22
Quack knows where you can find one...and Cerebrus knows where you can get pink grips for it. :whistling:

Actually it just got a bit easier... http://vzgrips.com/gun-grips/1911-pistol-grips-1/320s-1/320s-posey-pink-g10

Cuz you just know yer gonna want a set for yer Brown.. :supergrin:

wrx04
10-28-2010, 20:36
Makes sense but you could always hang more than one target or get more, smaller, groups on one target. My thought process is ,after the first 3 shots, it is very hard to really gauge how close to the first hole the other shots truly are. Maybe I'm over thinking it.

Ahh, i see what you are saying. You dont know where the round is going if there is already a big whole in the target....definitely makes sense. Sometimes i will do that with a bunch of the orange 1" stickers, but i usually shoot a mag at each. I'm not good enough for it to make that much of a difference compared to three shot groups.

Hokie1911
10-28-2010, 20:37
Actually it just got a bit easier... http://vzgrips.com/gun-grips/1911-pistol-grips-1/320s-1/320s-posey-pink-g10

Cuz you just know yer gonna want a set for yer Brown.. :supergrin:

Those are downright sassy. :aodnsb:

Aiden
10-28-2010, 20:42
Those are downright sassy. :aodnsb:

I've never met you, nor have I any idea as to what sort of a person you are.

But the imaginary Hokie in my head said "Sassy" and I almost threw something at my door.

Hokie1911
10-28-2010, 20:53
I've never met you, nor have I any idea as to what sort of a person you are.

But the imaginary Hokie in my head said "Sassy" and I almost threw something at my door.

You have no idea. :rofl:

Cerebrus
10-28-2010, 21:13
I figured u would like those Hokie... that pink would just make that stainless "pop" :pjmn:

Hokie1911
10-28-2010, 21:19
I figured u would like those Hokie... that pink would just make that stainless "pop" :pjmn:

My Brown is stainless with Gen3 numbnuts. :tongueout:

...and you would know all about sassy Mr Why So Curious. :rofl:

rsxr22
10-28-2010, 21:34
WRX,
If you would like to get a jump start on the types of shooting you will see in competition, in order to make yourself more comfortable, hop over to pistol-training.com and print out all of the shooting drills on Todd's site. Go through them many many times. You will gain more accuracy and more speed then you could have ever hoped for.

Cerebrus
10-29-2010, 00:12
WRX,
If you would like to get a jump start on the types of shooting you will see in competition, in order to make yourself more comfortable, hop over to pistol-training.com and print out all of the shooting drills on Todd's site. Go through them many many times. You will gain more accuracy and more speed then you could have ever hoped for.

So where exactly is Todd's site there?

okie
10-29-2010, 00:20
Nice one-shot grouping Okie. :tongueout:












J/K. Nice shooting sir. :thumbsup:Thanks so much my friend:supergrin::wavey:

okie
10-29-2010, 00:21
This is what i want my target to look like.:cool:

Practice my friend, lots of practice:thumbsup:

Aiden
10-29-2010, 00:42
nvm

Also, Legion is a bad movie

ajgranda
10-29-2010, 07:53
Good enough to easily pass a LEO qualification course every year. That's with my XD45C and Big Dot combat sights. It should be a joke when my CQB arrives. :supergrin: I never shoot beyond 50 feet (indoor range) except when qualifying when I have to go out to 25 yards for the final 8 rounds with no time limit.

wrx04
10-29-2010, 08:45
WRX,
If you would like to get a jump start on the types of shooting you will see in competition, in order to make yourself more comfortable, hop over to pistol-training.com and print out all of the shooting drills on Todd's site. Go through them many many times. You will gain more accuracy and more speed then you could have ever hoped for.

Thanks. I'll be sure to check it out.

Hawker Man
10-29-2010, 18:11
http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq238/HawkermanZ/target2.jpg
http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq238/HawkermanZ/Target.jpg

pzlehr
10-29-2010, 18:29
My G27 will shoot a one shot group at 100yds. I can cover it with a nickel.

:cool:

You too!!??

jtull7
10-29-2010, 18:38
This was done with my Kimber Pro Carry .45, 30 feet, freestanding, on two fake legs. I don't think it is too bad.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t107/jtull8/DSC00229.jpg

Elsilrac1
10-29-2010, 19:14
The two on the left are with a Rock Island 9mm tac and a Kimber Aeigis Custom II 9mm. I believe these were at 7yds. Bottom right was my G34.

http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo297/Elsilrac1/Photo0121.jpg

deadite
10-29-2010, 19:28
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/DSCN1946.jpg

Very first mag ever through my new Dan Wesson PM7. 25 feet, unsupported, 2 hands, standing, not really trying, just testing for function.

My Smith and Wesson model 41 shoots even better.

deadite

rsxr22
10-29-2010, 19:46
So where exactly is Todd's site there?

His website is pistol-training.com. I listed it in the post you copied

Cerebrus
10-29-2010, 22:13
His website is pistol-training.com. I listed it in the post you copied

Doh! gotcha.. the whole site is his.. nvm.. I have been kinda sleep deprived since last sat.. work, school, midterms..

PhoneCop
10-29-2010, 23:06
Actually it just got a bit easier... http://vzgrips.com/gun-grips/1911-pistol-grips-1/320s-1/320s-posey-pink-g10

Cuz you just know yer gonna want a set for yer Brown.. :supergrin:

If some one buys them for me and ships them to me, I will proudly install them on my Kimber.






























































My wife's Kimber. :thumbsup:

FLIPPER 348
10-29-2010, 23:44
A 4" group scores the same as an oblong hole, after that the only thing that matters is how quickly you solve the problem.


bingo


minute of pie-plate at 7 yards is good2go

rsxr22
10-30-2010, 14:49
Doh! gotcha.. the whole site is his.. nvm.. I have been kinda sleep deprived since last sat.. work, school, midterms..

Gotcha! I just graduated college this past march so i know where your coming from

ambluemax
10-31-2010, 22:29
I would love to start this type of shooting.... sounds like a ton of fun. Where do you do this type of practice? I know all the ranges around me only allow the typical stand and shoot type stuff.

You'll have a hard time finding an open range that will lets you practice dynamic handgun stuff. Some will if you show them your IDPA/USPSA member card (so they know you actually know what you're doing). Even then a lot of times they don't want you to because the 'tard in the next lane will monkey-see monkey-do and shoot themself of somebody else.

Really what you have to do is start coming out to matches and learn from the school of hard knocks and your new found friends. Log onto www.IDPA.com or www.USPSA.org and find a club/match near you. Come on out and start playing. Once you penatrate the action shootin comp sub-culture, you'll be suprised how many opporunties there are to get out there and do this stuff.

glock_19guy1983
10-31-2010, 22:33
All of my groups measure .45 inches ;)