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Samsondog04
10-28-2010, 18:52
I think I got a good deal yesterday.

A dillon 550 press, .45 and .40/10mm caliber conversions, an old set of RCBS .40/10mm dies and 4,000 once fired mixed head stamp brass. The guy told me he was retired from the police department and police range officer gave him all this brass. ???????? The brass is a combination of 10mm, .40 S&W, 38 special, and .45acp all sorted by calibers in 3 large boxes.

This was a package deal off Craigslist for $ 350.00 I think its all there except for one of the tool holders locator pins possibly a few other small parts.

I called Dillon today and as everyone stated in the past their customer service is top notched. This is my first progressive press and I think I will send it in for the $47.95 refurbishing job. I want them to go through the press and make it like new and update it with the Lock-Link Bell Crank assembly and add the early primer buzzer. I guess adding these couple of things will make it a 550B.

Dillon should also rebuild the older style powder measure with spring assembly. Does anybody have an old manual or mechanical breakdown for the old style powder measure with spring assembly?

Boxerglocker
10-28-2010, 19:11
Not bad... after your refurb cost and shipping your about $430-440 into it with a extra conversion and Free brass...

Bob2223
10-28-2010, 19:22
Not bad... after your refurb cost and shipping your about $430-440 into it with a extra conversion and Free brass...

ya BG your right, but for the same $ the other option woulda been a new press with free bullets :whistling:


:tongueout:

Bob

GioaJack
10-28-2010, 19:31
ya BG your right, but for the same $ the other option woulda been a new press with free bullets :whistling:


:tongueout:

Bob


I DIDN'T SAY IT, I DIDN'T SAY IT... it was that trouble making flatlander.

Please take notice that I also didn't point out that the press the flatlander is eluding to is also closer to a 650 than a 550 but I have taken a vow of non-contentiousness so I didn't bring it up.

Behave yourself flatlander... :whistling:

(I think the OP still did pretty good, you'll enjoy that press for many, many years.)


Jack

Boxerglocker
10-28-2010, 20:32
ya BG your right, but for the same $ the other option woulda been a new press with free bullets :whistling:


:tongueout:

Bob


:chatter:

Hence my opinion "Not bad"...

I didn't want to be rude and blow the wind out of the OP's sails... but being as you did it for me... I'll admit that I would have passed on this particular deal myself and probably gone for the LNL for that amount.

shotgunred
10-28-2010, 20:50
Not a bad deal.

albyihat
10-28-2010, 22:24
That deal is down right great! If you need any old manuals contact dillon and they will throw it in with your press when it ships back to you. They should include the correct manuals anyway. Good score.

fredj338
10-28-2010, 22:44
ya BG your right, but for the same $ the other option woulda been a new press with free bullets :whistling:


:tongueout:

Bob
You are being so abrasive!:crying: It's a fair price. Though after shipping & refurbish cost, you could have probably bought new from Brian E for about the same price. The good thing, you are on your way to reloading!:supergrin:

Bob2223
10-29-2010, 06:13
OK guyz, I was just ribbin BG, :poke: "I enjoy that ?"

Wasn't trying to be an abrasive trouble making flatlander.

The OP got a good press and a start in reloading :thumbsup:

Congrats on your press!

:cheers:

Bob

El_Ron1
10-29-2010, 10:42
I don't understand sending in a press you haven't used yet.

Boxerglocker
10-29-2010, 11:09
You are being so abrasive!:crying: It's a fair price. Though after shipping & refurbish cost, you could have probably bought new from Brian E for about the same price. The good thing, you are on your way to reloading!:supergrin:

Thank you Fred, I agree it's a decent score $360 is 75% of a new 550b with Dillon dies, it's all relative. I bought both my SDB's for less than $200 nett after making deals selling off extra conversions and such and still ended up with 5 conversions/toolheads for myself shared between 2 machines.
The OP could sell brass and the extra conversion if not needed could be sold to offset the cost even further.
There is a member here on the GT forum that just sold (2) 550bs here locally in my area, set-up in 9mm or .45 with strongmounts/bullet trays and roller handles for $325 each and yet another set-up in .223 rifle for $375.
I would hope that when the Op sends it in Dillon just throws a new 550b in a box and sends it to him...


That deal is down right great! If you need any old manuals contact dillon and they will throw it in with your press when it ships back to you. They should include the correct manuals anyway. Good score.

If you need any manuals you can go to thier website and download them for FREE.

GioaJack
10-29-2010, 11:19
You are being so abrasive!:crying: It's a fair price. Though after shipping & refurbish cost, you could have probably bought new from Brian E for about the same price. The good thing, you are on your way to reloading!:supergrin:


HA! The flatlander got in trouble! I'm so happy I could break out in unabashed dance... :dancingbanana: dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:


Jack

fredj338
10-29-2010, 13:09
HA! The flatlander got in trouble! I'm so happy I could break out in unabashed dance... :dancingbanana: dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:


Jack
Jack, do you have to give those bananas Viagra to get them dance like that?:rofl:
Thank you Fred, I agree it's a decent score $360 is 75% of a new 550b with Dillon dies, it's all relative. I bought both my SDB's for less than $200 nett after making deals selling off extra conversions and such and still ended up with 5 conversions/toolheads for myself shared between 2 machines.
I sold my extra 550B to buddy. one conversion, primer warning, extra tool head & some other little goodies for $325. It didn't need refurbishing, he's happy, I'm happy, everyone is reloading, life is good.

Bob2223
10-29-2010, 13:52
HA! The flatlander got in trouble! I'm so happy I could break out in unabashed dance... :dancingbanana: dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:


Jack




OK thats it !
I aint never postin here again !

Colorado4Wheel
10-29-2010, 14:18
So when you send it in for a refurb are they going to restore it to good running condition or UPDATE it and restore it. I always thought it was just a restore. They MAY update it at the same time but it was not a requirment for them to do that.

Bello
10-29-2010, 14:35
So when you send it in for a refurb are they going to restore it to good running condition or UPDATE it and restore it. I always thought it was just a restore. They MAY update it at the same time but it was not a requirment for them to do that.


why do you think dillon cost so damn much? cause they fix and give you everything for the rest of your life for free

Colorado4Wheel
10-29-2010, 15:11
Thats not true in my experiance. You have a old press with old style powder measure they do not just uprgrade you to the never version of the powder measure for the heck of it. It needs to be broken and then they would just replace the broken parts. But you would not get the associated parts for the upgrade.

saltydog452
10-29-2010, 15:18
I gotta ask...

what is SDB, LNL, &

who is Brian E?

Thanks,

salty

GioaJack
10-29-2010, 15:27
Thats not true in my experiance. You have a old press with old style powder measure they do not just uprgrade you to the never version of the powder measure for the heck of it. It needs to be broken and then they would just replace the broken parts. But you would not get the associated parts for the upgrade.


Little Stevie is right, (I think I just threw-up a little). I have two of the older spring actuated powder measures on the 550 and SD and if I want to upgrade them to the fail-safe system I have to pay for it.

Really don't hold it against Dillon though... I bought the product I wanted for the price I agreed to with a warranty... not a lifetime supply of 'new' products.


Jack

Boxerglocker
10-29-2010, 15:28
Thats not true in my experiance. You have a old press with old style powder measure they do not just uprgrade you to the never version of the powder measure for the heck of it. It needs to be broken and then they would just replace the broken parts. But you would not get the associated parts for the upgrade.

Actually in most cases they will upgrade to the newer "Improved" failsafe powder measure. I know a few guys that sent thiers in and had to request that the older one (spring loaded) left be as is. They feel it runs smoother.

fredj338
10-29-2010, 15:58
Actually in most cases they will upgrade to the newer "Improved" failsafe powder measure. I know a few guys that sent thiers in and had to request that the older one (spring loaded) left be as is. They feel it runs smoother.
That is how my first one was done. I had an issue w/ the powder measure & they sent me a new one w/ linkage. Even @ $50 for a refurbish, if they replace all bearings & arms, & you got the press cheap enough, certainly worth it.

GLShooter
10-30-2010, 11:27
They charge to "refurbish"? I took a 550 in that I got on a $100 package deal. (3 conversions, 4 sets of dies, three tool heads and stands, NIB 10-10 scale, 3 pounds of powder, 1000 FMJ bullets, Dillon Magnum tumbler, 10 pounds of media, 8 boxes of factory 9 MM, 5 boxes 12 gauge factory ammo and five boxes of 357.)

The press didn't prime right and I was frustrated so I took it in. Ten days later I have new primer set up and new linkage for the ram. No charge.

Greg

ron59
10-30-2010, 12:03
I gotta ask...

what is SDB, Dillon Square Deal B press.

LNL, Hornady Lock N Load press, probably the best non-Dillon press around

who is Brian E? Brian Enos... one of *the* top shooters of the 90s. Now retired, now runs the site: http://www.brianenos.com/ You can order Dillon presses there, free shipping on orders above $400.

Thanks,

salty

Answered.

fredj338
10-30-2010, 12:09
They charge to "refurbish"? I took a 550 in that I got on a $100 package deal. (3 conversions, 4 sets of dies, three tool heads and stands, NIB 10-10 scale, 3 pounds of powder, 1000 FMJ bullets, Dillon Magnum tumbler, 10 pounds of media, 8 boxes of factory 9 MM, 5 boxes 12 gauge factory ammo and five boxes of 357.)

The press didn't prime right and I was frustrated so I took it in. Ten days later I have new primer set up and new linkage for the ram. No charge.

Greg
I think they have started to charge a nominal fee for folks buying used presses & wanting them updated. Seems fair to me. I have never paid for a part for an upgrade though, whether powder measure or priming slides, springs whatever.

shotgunred
10-30-2010, 12:33
Does it even need refurbishing?

fredj338
10-30-2010, 15:12
Does it even need refurbishing?
Depends how neglected they are. I bought one from a friend years ago, he left it in the garage unused & it got pretty rusty. Dillon fixed it up for the cost of shipping. That one went to another friend of mine that wanted an affordable 550B.:dunno:

Colorado4Wheel
10-30-2010, 18:11
Little Stevie is right, (I think I just threw-up a little). I have two of the older spring actuated powder measures on the 550 and SD and if I want to upgrade them to the fail-safe system I have to pay for it.

Really don't hold it against Dillon though... I bought the product I wanted for the price I agreed to with a warranty... not a lifetime supply of 'new' products.


Jack

I think if you sent the machine in for a refurb it might get upgraded. I just don't know if that a "gift" a "policy" or some "random thing" they do based on how they feel about it by looking at your machine.

Yours would need the EPA to clean the lead residue off of it to make it safe for the general public to work on with out a hazmatt suit.

GioaJack
10-30-2010, 18:33
I think if you sent the machine in for a refurb it might get upgraded. I just don't know if that a "gift" a "policy" or some "random thing" they do based on how they feel about it by looking at your machine.

Yours would need the EPA to clean the lead residue off of it to make it safe for the general public to work on with out a hazmatt suit.


Presses are like everything else in life... except for women... they don't have to be pretty, they just have to work.

A classic example would be those cheap, plastic, sissy things, what do you call them again, oh yeah... GLOCKS. :whistling:


Jack

Colorado4Wheel
10-30-2010, 18:53
True Dat.

dudel
10-30-2010, 19:12
Actually in most cases they will upgrade to the newer "Improved" failsafe powder measure. I know a few guys that sent thiers in and had to request that the older one (spring loaded) left be as is. They feel it runs smoother.
Yep! I prefer the spring loaded dumps. The failsafe rod works; but I've never had the springs fail to return the bar for me. Now if I was using a long extruded stick powder, the bar might make more sense. Dillon won't/wouldn't sent/sell the parts to retrofit a new dump to the older style. They did however send me extra springs for the old one. I guess I could just pull the failsafe lock off and add the springs.

saltydog452
10-31-2010, 15:00
Thanks Ron.

sd

Colorado4Wheel
10-31-2010, 15:33
Yep! I prefer the spring loaded dumps. The failsafe rod works; but I've never had the springs fail to return the bar for me. Now if I was using a long extruded stick powder, the bar might make more sense. Dillon won't/wouldn't sent/sell the parts to retrofit a new dump to the older style. They did however send me extra springs for the old one. I guess I could just pull the failsafe lock off and add the springs.

Dillon has tested the new vs old and the new one is more accurate.

dudel
10-31-2010, 16:14
Dillon has tested the new vs old and the new one is more accurate.


I suppose it depends on the powder being dropped. Since the bars are the same, I wonder how they came to the more accurate conclusion. Not a problem, as I have two of the new style and only one of the old.

GioaJack
10-31-2010, 16:30
Dillon has tested the new vs old and the new one is more accurate.


Huh... then how come the country wasn't inflicted with an epidemic of KABOOMS from loaders using the old style measures?

I'm sensing a bit of unnecessary concern when it comes to the accuracy of measures and scales. :dunno:


Jack

Glocks&Ducs
10-31-2010, 18:00
It seems to me that Dillon is not just arbitrarily replacing stuff like they used to anymore. They are now making an attempt to make sure you actually bought the stuff you are claiming on the NO BS warranty, from them, or a confirmed affiliate. I don't remember where I saw this stated before, but when I called them for a replacement decapping pin, they pretty much put me through the ringer before they sent me a new one.

Colorado4Wheel
10-31-2010, 18:33
Huh... then how come the country wasn't inflicted with an epidemic of KABOOMS from loaders using the old style measures?

I'm sensing a bit of unnecessary concern when it comes to the accuracy of measures and scales. :dunno:


Jack

I can't imagine it being hugely different. People like to complain that the new one is clunky. The Clunkyness settles the powder consistently and that the only difference really. It can't make much difference. But it's funny to hear people complain about the new one when in reality it's a improvement in safety and function.