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jdavionic
10-31-2010, 19:44
My oldest daughter (16) has expressed an interest in going deer hunting with me this season. That's quite a conflict of interest for her. She's a vegetarian! Her rational is that she believes animals are mistreated before they are killed. But for hunting, she believes it is much more humane in that the animals are free and that hunters serve a purpose that is in the best interest of the animals. She would much rather they die via a good hunter than starve or hit by a car.

First off, I've never heard of a vegetarian that wanted to go hunting. While I appreciate her views, I was always taught that you eat what you kill. So I've got some mixed emotions about letting her go hunting.

Anyone encounter this one before or have an opinion on this?

Edit: She is a good a shot.

M1A Shooter
10-31-2010, 19:50
she may also just want to go to spend time with dad.

when i go hunting, its more about going with my family members and having a good day in the woods.

jdavionic
10-31-2010, 19:52
she may also just want to go to spend time with dad.

Since I haven't picked out days to go yet, I haven't had to decide. I did ask her if she'd eat the meat, and her answer was no.

So I'm torn...quality time with my daughter versus instilling the principal of you only kill what you will eat.

DWARREN123
11-01-2010, 00:51
Going hunting does not mean getting anything, just looking, listening and some talk.

AA#5
11-01-2010, 02:13
Some people choose vegetarianism for health reasons rather than compassion for animals. Maybe that applies to her.

Or, maybe she wants to see for herself if hunted animals suffer when they're shot (which they indeed. do).

jdavionic
11-01-2010, 03:52
Going hunting does not mean getting anything, just looking, listening and some talk.

That's more likely the result when I go :supergrin:

n0vember
11-01-2010, 12:06
have an opinion on this?



I do..

I did ask her if she'd eat the meat, and her answer was no.

In that case, I would not let my daughter kill an animal, just for the fun of it.

What is her reason behind wanting to take an animal's life?

Dalton Wayne
11-01-2010, 12:11
If you will eat it no harm no foul

alwaysshootin
11-01-2010, 12:21
Don't miss an opportunity to hunt with one of your children. If she gets fortunate, donate the harvest to a food bank. ++ in my book! Have fun!:cool:

jdavionic
11-01-2010, 16:26
In that case, I would not let my daughter kill an animal, just for the fun of it.

What is her reason behind wanting to take an animal's life?

She believes hunting is a more humane management of animals versus letting them starve or hit by cars, etc.

Why does she want to hunt? She loves camping, fishing (she always lets them go), hiking, etc. She just loves the outdoors. She thinks hunting would be interesting to try.

Knowing her, I think she'd be a bit shocked at making a kill. As you can tell from this forum, a lot of folks are surprised when they see an animal killed by a hunter.

With respect to eating it, I know the meat would not go to waste. I love deer meat. Venison chili :supergrin:

bowtie454
11-01-2010, 16:46
I'm as conflicted as you. I know two guys who hunt big game but refuse to eat it. The first guy eats meat but doesn't like wild game. He donates his share to the local Raptor Society. We'll call him Bob. The second one is a vegetarian and is just in it for the kill. We'll call him "The *******". I think Bob goes hunting because he enjoys the company, getting away from it all with buddies, etc. The fact that he donates his share of the meat to a wildlife organization makes me not think too lowly of him, but I still disagree with hunting and not eating what you kill. As for The *******, I don't think he should be hunting. I have no respect for bloodlust. You're daughter seems to have a pretty good grip on things. Although I firmly believe in eating what you kill, you're daughter has the best interest of the wildlife in mind. That is very commendable. I'd have to vote for taking her. She's going for the right reasons, respects wildlife, and although I don't have kids, I would think that hunting would be a great activity to share with them.

n0vember
11-01-2010, 18:38
Why does she want to hunt? (..) fishing (she always lets them go),

What's the point of fishing when you let them go anyway? Sorry, but I have no sympathy at all for someone putting animals through the process of fishing just for the fun of it..



She thinks hunting would be interesting to try.
Interesting to try.. now that is a good reason to take a life. :shocked:



With respect to eating it, I know the meat would not go to waste. I love deer meat. Venison chili :supergrin:

Then you should kill the animal..

How does your daughter's "humane management of animals" work exactly, what is her plan, her concept? If she really was into wildlife management she'd give that a thought.. or two.

jdavionic
11-01-2010, 19:21
What's the point of fishing when you let them go anyway? Sorry, but I have no sympathy at all for someone putting animals through the process of fishing just for the fun of it..

I catch & release quite a bit. I love fly fishing. The "fun of it" is that it is quite challenging. If I catch a really large trout, I'll keep it...preferably eat right near where I'm at. I don't see the issue with those that catch & release.

Interesting to try.. now that is a good reason to take a life. :shocked:
I need to think about this some more too & possibly press the issue. Unlike the sport of fishing and releasing a catch, you don't "release" the deer after shooting.

How does your daughter's "humane management of animals" work exactly, what is her plan, her concept? If she really was into wildlife management she'd give that a thought.. or two.
I've previously provided her rational, but I'll expand on it a bit. We've been to areas where deer over population has been an issue. So she saw some deer not doing well and I explained why. And in our trips from the South to Erie, PA, we will see many dead deer on the side of the road. Again, we discuss the issues.

Not sure she has sound reasoning here, that's part of my concern. However I will say that I think she's more thoughtful about the whole vegetarian issue than many older vegetarians that I know.

GeorgiaRedfish
11-01-2010, 19:26
I catch and release fish all the time, only for sharks they fight strong and are magnificent creatures to see up close. I don't seems them hurting when I let them go, they swim fast and I could careless.... I don't go after shark when I catch them I'm fishing for Redfish, trout, and Whitening when I catch them. I do agree with above, if she doesn't want to eat it she shouldn't kill it.

thejellster05
11-02-2010, 06:29
I say take her since it will be an awesome memory. If you get one, you'll eat it so it's not like it's going to lay on the ground for the coyotes.

vafish
11-02-2010, 13:23
As long as someone eats the meat and it doesn't go to waste I see no problem with her shooting deer.

I know plenty of people who love hunting, shoot deer and donate the meet to homeless shelters.

Take your kid hunting we need all the hunters we can get.

Gun Shark
11-02-2010, 13:28
As long as someone eats the meat and it doesn't go to waste I see no problem with her shooting deer.

Take your kid hunting we need all the hunters we can get.

Every time I go wild boar hunting I shoot 2 more then I would have and donate the meat to a local church. OP: Maybe you could do that.

kirgi08
11-02-2010, 13:34
A company I usta work for owner was an avid hunter,he was also a vegetarian.He would donate the deer,if he got one, ta a local food bank.'08.

bustedknee
11-02-2010, 19:11
One of the most wonderful things you can do is teach your kid to hunt. Both of you will learn many things about yourselves and each other.

Start her out small. Maybe a 22 rifle. Let her shoot carrots and potatoes.

Move up, after she gains confidence, to cabbages and corn.

After she masters the shotgun or high-powered rifle go after watermelons and pumpkins.

Maybe someday the two of you can go on safari for Oak trees or Barrel cactus.

Gun Shark
11-02-2010, 19:19
One of the most wonderful things you can do is teach your kid to hunt. Both of you will learn many things about yourselves and each other.

Start her out small. Maybe a 22 rifle. Let her shoot carrots and potatoes.

Move up, after she gains confidence, to cabbages and corn.

After she masters the shotgun or high-powered rifle go after watermelons and pumpkins.

Maybe someday the two of you can go on safari for Oak trees or Barrel cactus.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: You owe me a new keyboard.

jdavionic
11-02-2010, 19:26
One of the most wonderful things you can do is teach your kid to hunt. Both of you will learn many things about yourselves and each other.

Start her out small. Maybe a 22 rifle. Let her shoot carrots and potatoes.

Move up, after she gains confidence, to cabbages and corn.

After she masters the shotgun or high-powered rifle go after watermelons and pumpkins.

Maybe someday the two of you can go on safari for Oak trees or Barrel cactus.
:rofl:

My guess is she'll quit after field dressing a watermelon...too much red.

Winds-of-change
11-02-2010, 23:42
Since I haven't picked out days to go yet, I haven't had to decide. I did ask her if she'd eat the meat, and her answer was no.

So I'm torn...quality time with my daughter versus instilling the principal of you only kill what you will eat.


I think as long as someone in the family will eat it you should let her go. She may shoot her first animal and decide hunting is not for her afterall but if she is interested I would give her a chance whether she'll eat it or not. The rest of the family will, right?

jdavionic
11-03-2010, 03:32
I think as long as someone in the family will eat it you should let her go. She may shoot her first animal and decide hunting is not for her afterall but if she is interested I would give her a chance whether she'll eat it or not. The rest of the family will, right?

Me and my youngest will eat it. My parents will certainly eat it too. So the meat will certainly be consumed.

vafish
11-04-2010, 14:46
Me and my youngest will eat it. My parents will certainly eat it too. So the meat will certainly be consumed.

Then enjoy hunting with your daughter. Kids grow up to fast and we only have a few years to spend with them.