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polizei1
11-01-2010, 19:08
Hey everyone...I know some of you here have the GSG 1911, and I need some help!

My plan was to order a GSG through a local dealer (who gets them from a distributor), however, I'm quite confused on the models. I was under the impression that there was only one model, but through more extensive research, there seem to be several.

Now the reason I'm concerned is because I was told that a company in the US (possibly even ATI) is swapping the parts of the German GSG for the "American" version, which is cheaper material. I have no evidence to support this, as it's just hear-say, so I was hoping someone could possibly provide some insight.

Now, I've seen models with:

Threaded barrels/non threaded barrels
FCS/No FCS
Black trigger/Silver trigger
Flat backstrap/raised backstrap
Wood grips/Black grips (non-aftermarket)
GSG Rollmark
Slanted RCS/Straight RCS
Short Beavertail/Long Beavertail

In addition, some seem to just say "Made in Germany" on the slide, like this:

http://hagelbergarms.dk/Graphics/Products/8474f.jpg

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/dsc00817.jpg

And some have ATI trademark, and a lot of other information:

http://www.indygunsafety.com/files/GSG1911.jpg

Wood vs. Black

http://hagelbergarms.dk/Graphics/Products/8474.jpg

FCS:

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/dsc00818.jpg

Non FCS:

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac4/stevenkids/DSCF3580.jpg

You should be able to see (I think) all of the differences in those pictures...

So comes my conclusion, I am so confused right now, and have no idea if they are all amazingly well (as all the reviews I've read), or if one or two are better? Is there a particular model/design I should watch out for?

Any information would be very helpful!

-Cody

AZ Husker
11-01-2010, 19:11
Confusing...I'd buy a Colt.

Quack
11-01-2010, 19:12
all of them and get a Marvel Conversion ;)

polizei1
11-01-2010, 19:14
Saving for an EMP and my Brown, can't afford a Marvel on top of this. :rofl:

fistpoint
11-01-2010, 21:09
The 2nd and 5th photos look like the early Shot Show display model from long before they came out. See the allen-head screw on the trigger guard?

Gdirty5
11-01-2010, 21:26
The threaded barrel adapter is aftermarket, i got mine from silencerco. I also changed out my mainspring housing with a wilson one to a flat one, it came curved. Also changed the bevertail to one with bump.

knedrgr
11-01-2010, 22:10
Pictures 2 and 5, just looks like something that came out of a frankenstein movie...check out that BTGS! Did someone from Fusion fitted that BTGS to that frame?! :rofl:

knedrgr
11-01-2010, 22:13
I had a GSG-5PK, and there was an ATI marking on there, in addition to the GSG marking. It has been a while, but IIRC, there's a transfer of firearm for ATF's record, since ATI is bringing it in and distributing thru ATI. So if you have a problem with GSG's gun, you send it back to ATI for warranty work.

ijacek
11-02-2010, 04:20
Confusing...I'd buy a Colt.

:agree: as this one was well under 800.00$:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/jac3k/P5022886.jpg

Quack
11-02-2010, 06:57
http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16800

knedrgr
11-02-2010, 07:39
Confusing...I'd buy a Colt.

:agree: as this one was well under 800.00$:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/jac3k/P5022886.jpg

It's a 22LR 1911...not a 45ACP...

I'll be a cold day in hell when I spend $800 on a 22LR pistol.

polizei1
11-02-2010, 09:15
That's what I'm saying...of course everyone will say to get a Marvel or Kimber or whatever, but at the end of the day, that's quite a bit of money, which I would much rather spend on another 1911.

Cheap .22 based off a 1911, for $300 OTD, I can't beat the price! I was just so confused on the differences. :rofl:

knedrgr
11-02-2010, 09:57
That's what I'm saying...of course everyone will say to get a Marvel or Kimber or whatever, but at the end of the day, that's quite a bit of money, which I would much rather spend on another 1911.

Cheap .22 based off a 1911, for $300 OTD, I can't beat the price! I was just so confused on the differences. :rofl:

Either of the Marvel or Kimber conversion kit can be had for around $300-350. And the quality is better.

Buds has a Kimber conversion for $289.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_40/products_id/411535302

Quack
11-02-2010, 10:08
the Marvel is only ~$50 more, sure it's not a complete gun, but IMO much nicer than the GSG.

FWIW, the Marvel is an aluminum slide, where as the GSG is a Zamak (Zinc) slide.

buy once, cry once ;)

polizei1
11-02-2010, 10:25
Yea, but you're forgetting that I don't have a 1911 yet...so the slide alone would be useless!!!! :rofl:

Quack
11-02-2010, 10:29
then don't waste your $ until you get a 1911 :tongueout:

polizei1
11-02-2010, 11:14
Well, it'll be quite a while until I get a 1911 that will allow for the conversion. We'll see...I'm not 100% set on it yet.