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mickey24
11-06-2010, 16:18
Is the Sig 1911 a gun to consider compared to others in the 1000 dollar price range

nolt
11-06-2010, 16:34
it depends on what youre looking for.

alot of people that own them speak highly of them but theyre really not that popular because in Sigs's obsession with making them 'Unmistakably Sig' they made them a bit 'less 1911.'

HAIL CAESAR
11-06-2010, 16:54
They are a fine handgun. I have had three and they have worked (reliable) and were accurate. What more do you want??

bac1023
11-06-2010, 18:03
Is the Sig 1911 a gun to consider compared to others in the 1000 dollar price range

I feel the STI Trojan is the best in the $1000 range.

Sig does build a quality gun, albeit somewhat nontraditional.

rsxr22
11-06-2010, 18:06
I agree with BAC. Sig makes a good 1911, but there are indeed better options like the Trojan.

custom2
11-06-2010, 19:07
They have their pros and cons like every other maker. For that money I would go with a Kimber TLE2 mainly because I don't like the trigger feel of a series 80 gun. All Sig 1911's use Colt's series 80 firing pin safety design. You can feel the safety in your trigger pull. It feels gritty during trigger take up.

I believe Kimber still makes the best gun in the 800-1000 dollar range. I have not handled any of the STI's that Bac speaks so highly of so I can't comment but one thing is for sure, the man has handled quite a few makers guns.

I think if Sig used better quality parts (they used to use ALL quality parts) they could justify the cost of their guns but they are nickel and dimeing these guns to death. Almost everything is MIM or cheaply cast parts now.

If I could get one at a huge deal I might pick one up but I would never buy one new from a gun store.

bac1023
11-06-2010, 19:12
They have their pros and cons like every other maker. For that money I would go with a Kimber TLE2 mainly because I don't like the trigger feel of a series 80 gun. All Sig 1911's use Colt's series 80 firing pin safety design. You can feel the safety in your trigger pull. It feels gritty during trigger take up.

I believe Kimber still makes the best gun in the 800-1000 dollar range. I have not handled any of the STI's that Bac speaks so highly of so I can't comment but one thing is for sure, the man has handled quite a few makers guns.

I think if Sig used better quality parts (they used to use ALL quality parts) they could justify the cost of their guns but they are nickel and dimeing these guns to death. Almost everything is MIM or cheaply cast parts now.

If I could get one at a huge deal I might pick one up but I would never buy one new from a gun store.


I agree that Kimber probably makes the best 1911 at $800-$900 for sure.

S&W is nice as well in that range.

The Trojan is great at just slightly more, with no firing pin safety whatsoever.

GVFlyer
11-06-2010, 21:25
My full size Sig Sauer Nitron Black 1911 GSR is one of my favorite 1911s. It's what I carry when I'm carrying a 5 inch 1911.

It is made in the U.S.A. with no MIM. Every critical working part in this gun is machined from solid stainless steel and the gun is hand-fitted. The GSR is made from premium parts: Evolution Gun Works bushing and sear; Storm Lake 416 stainless barrel, Greider Precision slide stop, trigger, magazine catch, and plunger tube; Wolff springs, Caspian frame, slide, firing pin, firing pin stop, ejector, beavertail grip safety and Wilson Combat extractor, main spring housing and thumb safety. Performance Engineering makes the EDM hammer, grip screws and bushings beneath them, and the 11 pins necessary to put a 1911 together. Novak makes the 3-dot streamlined fixed tritium night sights and Herrett the premium checkered wood grips. The whole gun is stainless, 416 on the slide and 415 on the frame.

Sig got around the usual crunch associated with a trigger-actuated firing-pin safety by using Thomas Engineering's laser-cut actuating levers, which are detail polished.

For current models, Caspian no longer makes the 1911 slide and frame. Sig Sauer has taken the production in-house.

I sent my GSR back to Sig for their Action Enhancement Package ($169.95) and Trigger Enhancement ($99.95) which made a good gun even better without voiding the warranty. It's a 1911 worth considering.
http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq166/GVFlyer/xm813/Sig1911GSR.jpg?t=1289099038

Spiffums
11-07-2010, 02:31
Is it true or just interwebz rumor that the Sig 1911 don't fit a lot of 1911 holsters?

silversport
11-07-2010, 06:29
look at the slide...SiGs will fit holsters where the leather can stretch a bit and won't fit others that won't...my SiG would not fit in my Lou Alessi or Safariland 1911 holsters...as for no MiM...SiG is using MiM now...interesting thing is (for me at least) is that there seem to be less complaints about SiG 1911s now that ever...
Bill

bac1023
11-07-2010, 06:44
Is it true or just interwebz rumor that the Sig 1911 don't fit a lot of 1911 holsters?

As Silversport mentioned, its the shape of the slide that can cause some campatability issues.

It almost looks like a Sig P-series slide on a 1911 frame.

MD357
11-07-2010, 09:27
I owned a GSR Target for awhile and I'd take it seven ways till Sunday over a majority of Kimbers. The fit and finish and attention to detail was significantly better, specifically, the crowning, beveling and trigger.

bac1023
11-07-2010, 09:30
I owned a GSR Target for awhile and I'd take it seven ways till Sunday over a majority of Kimbers. The fit and finish and attention to detail was significantly better, specifically, the crowning, beveling and trigger.

I'm not sure if I agree 100%, but I like the way you put that, MD. ;)

mickey24
11-07-2010, 15:16
I would like a Kimber but, there seems to be quite a bit of bad press for them, Is it justified.

GVFlyer
11-07-2010, 15:30
There are those who have had exceptionally good experiences with Kimbers, I do not number among them.

bac1023
11-07-2010, 15:45
There are those who have had exceptionally good experiences with Kimbers, I do not number among them.

I am :supergrin:

HAIL CAESAR
11-07-2010, 15:58
I ain't.:steamed:

bac1023
11-07-2010, 16:00
I am :supergrin:

I ain't.:steamed:

:rofl:

mickey24
11-07-2010, 16:05
Seems to be somewhat of a crap shoot if you get a good or bad one. A friend of mine had an ultra carry and it FTF every 3 to 4 rounds. Makes me nervous to go with Kimber.

bac1023
11-07-2010, 16:11
Seems to be somewhat of a crap shoot if you get a good or bad one. A friend of mine had an ultra carry and it FTF every 3 to 4 rounds. Makes me nervous to go with Kimber.

That's why I don't buy Ultras.

hongster
11-07-2010, 16:46
Personally, I like the Sig 1911 more than Kimbers.

Cobra64
11-07-2010, 18:11
it depends on what youre looking for.

alot of people that own them speak highly of them but theyre really not that popular because in Sigs's obsession with making them 'Unmistakably Sig' they made them a bit 'less 1911.'

They do look somewhat like a P220. :dunno:

GVFlyer
11-07-2010, 19:57
They do look somewhat like a P220. :dunno:

Thread drift warning!

Since you brought it up. I've been hanging fire on purchasing a double action .45 ACP because I can't decide between a Sig Sauer P220 Elite Dark (which sounds like type of chocolate) or its polymer competitor, the Heckler & Koch HK45/HK45C. What say you?

Sig P220 Elite Dark

http://www.thegunsource.com/DisplayPic.aspx?PIC=289092

H&K 45
http://nwatactical.com/images/HK45-original-NWA-tactical.jpg

H&K HK45C
http://expertoutfitters.com/images/45c.jpg

bac1023
11-07-2010, 20:08
Thread drift warning!

Since you brought it up. I've been hanging fire on purchasing a double action .45 ACP because I can't decide between a Sig Sauer P220 Elite Dark (which sounds like type of chocolate) or its polymer competitor, the Heckler & Koch HK45/HK45C. What say you?

Sig P220 Elite Dark

http://www.thegunsource.com/DisplayPic.aspx?PIC=289092

H&K 45
http://nwatactical.com/images/HK45-original-NWA-tactical.jpg

H&K HK45C
http://expertoutfitters.com/images/45c.jpg


HK for sure, but then again, I don't buy the new American Sigs.

raven11
11-07-2010, 20:17
HK for sure, but then again, I don't buy the new American Sigs.

some of the new HK45 are also being made in the US

bac1023
11-07-2010, 20:30
some of the new HK45 are also being made in the US

Yeah, but that's fine with me.

I don't like what Sig is doing these days.

raven11
11-07-2010, 20:36
Yeah, but that's fine with me.

I don't like what Sig is doing these days.
I don't know about that BAC, maybe after a couple of months the new Special Edition Rainbow Titanium finish P210 will start to grow on you


http://www.p210.com/images/p210_helvetic.jpg
:rofl:

bac1023
11-07-2010, 20:41
I don't know about that BAC, maybe after a couple of months the new Special Edition Rainbow Titanium finish P210 will start to grow on you


http://www.p210.com/images/p210_helvetic.jpg
:rofl:

:rofl::rofl:

GVFlyer
11-07-2010, 21:03
...


http://www.p210.com/images/p210_helvetic.jpg
:rofl:

http://ny-image0.etsy.com/il_fullxfull.163991328.jpg

Hail Helvetia!

FM12
11-07-2010, 23:27
Get you a Smith & Wesson sku 108284, You can thank me later. Everything u need in a 1911 and nothing u dont. YMMV but its dead nuts for me!

MD357
11-07-2010, 23:32
I don't know about that BAC, maybe after a couple of months the new Special Edition Rainbow Titanium finish P210 will start to grow on you


http://www.p210.com/images/p210_helvetic.jpg
:rofl:

Seriously, that is wrong on so many levels. It's like painting flames on a Bugatti.

EricandSuebee
11-08-2010, 08:38
What you guys talking about that is ALREADY bac's gun, he's just showing it off at a dinner party!

GVFlyer
11-08-2010, 10:11
Get you a Smith & Wesson sku 108284, You can thank me later. Everything u need in a 1911 and nothing u dont. YMMV but its dead nuts for me!


I sort of like SKU: 170243 with its Melonite over stainless finish.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_764972_-1_757754_757752_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

brisk21
11-08-2010, 12:31
Thread drift warning!

Since you brought it up. I've been hanging fire on purchasing a double action .45 ACP because I can't decide between a Sig Sauer P220 Elite Dark (which sounds like type of chocolate) or its polymer competitor, the Heckler & Koch HK45/HK45C. What say you?

Sig P220 Elite Dark

http://www.thegunsource.com/DisplayPic.aspx?PIC=289092

H&K 45
http://nwatactical.com/images/HK45-original-NWA-tactical.jpg

H&K HK45C
http://expertoutfitters.com/images/45c.jpg


After some research I was about to buy an HK45, but upon handleing one I don't like it as much. Sloppy trigger and high bore axis. Id have to shoot it before I decide I don't want one, but I REALLY like the looks of that Sig. The beavertails on those look soo sweet. I may have to check that gun out.

GVFlyer
11-08-2010, 13:46
You apparently understand why I'm having such a hard time deciding between the two (three?) The full size HK45 actually feels better in my hand than does the compact HK45C. I like the way the Sig looks better than either H&K. I had the same issue when I tried to buy a single .357 SIG carry pistol. I ended up buying both the Sig and the H&K.

Sig P239 SAS DAK
http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq166/GVFlyer/xm813/SigP239SAS-1.jpg?t=1289245313

H&K USP Compact .357 SIG LEM
http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq166/GVFlyer/xm813/HKUSPC-1.jpg?t=1289245402

The Sigs certainly have a leg up on appearance.