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wolf19r
11-07-2010, 23:52
I have been looking at 1911s for a bit now and recently shot a Springfield TRP. So the Epic debate. Whats a good quality 1911? I was looking at Springfield TRP or Kimber Warriors or TLE Full size or Pro size. All info is appreciated.

AZ Husker
11-08-2010, 00:56
Go American Made! Check out a used Kimber Gold Combat.

bac1023
11-08-2010, 03:29
Below $1000 I like Kimber, but from the TRP on up, I prefer Springfield.

USDMike
11-08-2010, 03:35
I am quite pleased with my TRP at the moment.

glock2740
11-08-2010, 06:46
I think the TRP is as good or better than the upper end Kimbers, but I'd take any Kimber over all of the SA guns that are below the TRP.

airflyer
11-08-2010, 07:02
Go American Made! Check out a used Kimber Gold Combat.

I love my series one Gold combat, awesome gun not easy to find

ancient_serpent
11-08-2010, 07:16
The TRP looks like a nice pistol, but I haven't shot one. I have owned a SA Ultra Compact Loaded and I was disappointed with it's reliability and accuracy. I put about 600 rounds through it and sold it off.
I've had nothing but good luck with my Kimbers (Pro CDP II and Warrior). I've got about 1000 rounds or so through the CDP and probably around 5 to 6 thousand through the Warrior, no problems to speak of. The Warrior is probably my favorite pistol, and one I would gladly take with me to the middle east, given the choice.

PhoneCop
11-08-2010, 07:21
I've seen a Warrior used through several thousand rounds in practice and competition. It's running like a champ. I've not owned or know anyone (specifically) using a Springfield. But, I would not worry about owning a Springfield as well.

Sooooo, you'll be fine with which ever you buy.

Hokie1911
11-08-2010, 07:35
I'd say the TRP, or save a few hundred and get a STI Trojan. If you want a 4"-4.25", I'd also look at the STI Ranger2 over the Kimber Pros. If you are deadset on a 4" Kimber, the ProTLE2 is a nice gun for the money.

jrs93accord
11-08-2010, 09:22
Below $1000 I like Kimber, but from the TRP on up, I prefer Springfield.

I still need to get a TRP (amongst other things).

ArmoryDoc
11-08-2010, 10:32
The TRP for sure.

swinokur
11-08-2010, 11:00
All nice pistols. Tie breaker for me was made in the USA. Custom TLE/RL II. 1000+ rounds. never a burp. It likes Federal 230g +P HST and 230g Gold Dots among others.

Cruiser702
11-08-2010, 11:29
No contest. SA. Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service. :)

Disregarded9-side
11-08-2010, 11:34
What's the difference between the Pro Carry HD and the Pro Carry TLE?
Sights...$202? Really......?

Edit: oh, front strap checkering?

Agent6-3/8
11-08-2010, 11:43
I have been looking at 1911s for a bit now and recently shot a Springfield TRP. So the Epic debate. Whats a good quality 1911? I was looking at Springfield TRP or Kimber Warriors or TLE Full size or Pro size. All info is appreciated.

No questiona bout it, Springfield TRP.

EricandSuebee
11-08-2010, 11:45
I'd say SA TRP as well.

glock2740
11-08-2010, 11:55
What's the difference between the Pro Carry HD and the Pro Carry TLE?
Sights...$202? Really......?

Edit: oh, front strap checkering?
You answered your own question. Night sights and front strap checkering are well worth a $202 upgrade.

Quack
11-08-2010, 12:30
Dan Wesson Valor.

Disregarded9-side
11-08-2010, 12:59
You answered your own question. Night sights and front strap checkering are well worth a $202 upgrade.

Agreed.
A different name entirely for sights and checking seems excessive, and seems to cheapen the strength of the brand's image...these should def be an option.

The TLE are also only offered in ACP, whereas the HD seems available in .38S and the non-steel versions can be had in nine.

wolf19r
11-08-2010, 15:36
So both are good choices it seems. Kimber is out of NY. so its American made. Is Springfield not made in the USA? I was looking on their site (which needs more info added to it) and could not tell.

swinokur
11-08-2010, 15:43
Most SA parts made in Brazil. Assembled in USA

rsxr22
11-08-2010, 16:09
The Warrior doesnt even offer FSC on a $1100+ gun. My recommendations on a 1911 under the TRP price would be the STI Trojan, all day, every day. But TRP over the Trojan and definitely the Kimber. I have a TRP and love it, ill probably never get rid of it. I am working on picking up a Trojan right now in 9mm. I have a Spartan, but my GF wants it so im going to sell it to her and kick in the extra $ for the Trojan

GVFlyer
11-08-2010, 16:50
Dan Wesson Valor.

That's what I chose in that price range.

http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq166/GVFlyer/xm813/Valor-2.jpg?t=1289256615

HAIL CAESAR
11-08-2010, 17:55
No contest. SA. Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service. :)

That is my advice. The Kimber may be "nicer" in cosmetic ways and ways that don't matter a lick. But the SA's are very good guns and you have SA to back you for a lifetime with no hassles.

Kimber Customer Service usually stinks to high HEAVEN.

fistpoint
11-08-2010, 19:21
Go American Made! Check out a used Kimber Gold Combat.

Brazil is in America too you know :embarassed:

EricandSuebee
11-08-2010, 19:51
but my GF wants it so im going to sell it to her and kick in the extra $ for the Trojan

I just find that funny you'd sell it to her.

bac1023
11-08-2010, 20:11
I think the TRP is as good or better than the upper end Kimbers, but I'd take any Kimber over all of the SA guns that are below the TRP.

A have to agree with Joe.

bac1023
11-08-2010, 20:12
I still need to get a TRP (amongst other things).

:thumbsup:

bac1023
11-08-2010, 20:14
Go American Made! Check out a used Kimber Gold Combat.

I believe the TRP is built in the States.

GJ1981
11-08-2010, 20:36
If it were me, I'd save a few hundred and get a Baer TRS, CC. TRP's a nice, just not a $1300-1400 pistol IMO.

Between the SA and a Kimber, SA > Kimber.

If it is below the 1K mark, I don't think either is spectacular as far as parts quality or fit, but the SA is a 70 series and actually has good CS.

After the ordeal a friend went through with his Kimber and their CS, I will never recommend them.

AZ Husker
11-08-2010, 22:27
I believe the TRP is built in the States.

TRP is ASSEMBLED in the USA. Same Brazilian frame and slide as the others.

asiparks
11-09-2010, 01:40
Not Kimber, (unless it's a basic custom or TLE)

wolf19r
11-10-2010, 15:35
Good info and the Dan Wesson is a nice looking gun. Guess I should read up on more reviews and such about where the parts are from.

Quack
11-10-2010, 15:59
US parts and no MIM.

woodrowNC
11-10-2010, 16:00
That is my advice. The Kimber may be "nicer" in cosmetic ways and ways that don't matter a lick. But the SA's are very good guns and you have SA to back you for a lifetime with no hassles.

Kimber Customer Service usually stinks to high HEAVEN.

kimber cs certainly did for me. i should have kept the pro carry series 1. great gun. one of the more dumber things i've done. last pistol i sold as a matter of fact. from now on, i'm out of the selling business.

rsxr22
11-10-2010, 16:08
I just find that funny you'd sell it to her.
Trust me LOL Im basically giving it to her, between the designers purses and shoes she gets LOL:rofl:

EricandSuebee
11-10-2010, 17:05
Trust me LOL Im basically giving it to her, between the designers purses and shoes she gets LOL:rofl:

Ouch! I see now :)