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Nowhere Man
11-09-2010, 12:54
I'm looking to start reloading for my G35. Does a Glock prefer a flat point or SWC? Or, is it as reliable with both?


Thanks, Dave

DWARREN123
11-09-2010, 13:32
I have a Glock 22 and 23 and they like 165gr, 180gr JHP's and 175gr lead SWC's.
My pistols do not like lite loads, medium to full power are more accurate.
I load with Longshot powder and load them as long as posiible.

Boxerglocker
11-09-2010, 14:03
I'm looking to start reloading for my G35. Does a Glock prefer a flat point or SWC? Or, is it as reliable with both?


Thanks, Dave

All Glocks PREFER TC, round nose or JHP ammo, you may have luck with SWC but as with all things in life YMMV.

fredj338
11-09-2010, 14:14
All Glocks PREFER TC, round nose or JHP ammo, you may have luck with SWC but as with all things in life YMMV.

This is true, it's caliber specifc. The 40s can be mde to run well w/ a swc, the 45 not so much. Since I have seen rpecious few swc designs for 9mm, it never comes up.

truckmsl
11-09-2010, 14:42
I prefer cast truncated cones for my glock 40's but both (G23,G35) feed semiwadcutters just fine. And don't even go there about cast bullets in glock barrels please.

HAMMERHEAD
11-09-2010, 15:23
Where are you guys finding .40 cal SWC's?

shotgunred
11-09-2010, 15:40
When I bought my 23 that what what was available. Now that I have a pot I am going to melt the ones I have left down.
Personalty I like JHp in 40 sw. I have shot 10 of thousands of FMJ 180's with no problems in G23 and G35.

ilgunguygt
11-09-2010, 15:50
My G21 will feed reliably LSWC's, LRN, JHP, PHT, TC, etc. It will feed anything I stuff into it with the stockl barrel. with the lonewolf barrel it wouldnt reliably feed factory until opened up some.

dsmw5142
11-09-2010, 16:13
Where are you guys finding .40 cal SWC's?

Missouri bullet company makes a 170gr LSWC in .40 cal. I have loaded a 1000of them to major PF and they were very accurate with 4.6gr of Solo 1000. Smoke was moderate, but not horrible outdoors. Every 30-40 rounds I would have one hang while feeding and the gun needed a tap on the bottom of the mag.

If you load them a tad long so there is a little more shoulder the problem seems to be lessened.

This was with my KKM barrel, the lonewolf barrel did not like them at all and the FTF happened every dozen or so rounds.

Sonnytoo
11-09-2010, 17:58
My model 36 will fail to eject one of every five SWC's. It will run RN or JHP's all day.
Sonnytoo

G21FAN
11-09-2010, 18:01
I prefer cast truncated cones for my glock 40's but both (G23,G35) feed semiwadcutters just fine. And don't even go there about cast bullets in glock barrels please.

Whats wrong with cast bullets in Glock barrels?

DWARREN123
11-09-2010, 21:47
For 40 cal SWC in 175gr I use bullets from WWW.SNSCASTING.COM (http://www.SNSCASTING.COM)
A lot of folks say not to use lead bullets in polygonal barrels but if I use hard cast and run them fast enough they give me no problem out of a G22/23.

Nowhere Man
11-10-2010, 05:56
Where are you guys finding .40 cal SWC's?

Bear Creek Supply 209-874-4322, sells 155gr and 180gr SWC moly coated.


Dave

PCJim
11-10-2010, 07:43
Whats wrong with cast bullets in Glock barrels?

So that we don't start another long discussion in this thread, just Google "lead bullets in polygonal barrel".

wavetrain75
11-10-2010, 21:12
I really don't know why this lead bullet thing won't go away, I have first hand experience with a Glock 30 with nearly 50,000 rounds of hardcast through it and no sign of any trouble. It's always a "somebody said that somebody else said" argument.

dudel
11-11-2010, 02:34
I really don't know why this lead bullet thing won't go away, I have first hand experience with a Glock 30 with nearly 50,000 rounds of hardcast through it and no sign of any trouble. It's always a "somebody said that somebody else said" argument.

Except in this case the "somebody" is GLOCK. It's in bold red type in the owners manual that comes with every Glock.

So why didn't Glock consider boolits? The only area where reloading is a relatively common activity is in the US. If you think we went through a dry spell finding components, you might look at what folks in other countries go through. So, given the fact tha we tend to reload more than anywhere else in the world, and that we tend to cast more than anywhere else, the use of boolits is pretty well limited to the US. Glock was building a Austrian military gun, then a world gun. Boolits were just not part of the requirements.

WiskyT
11-11-2010, 17:32
So that we don't start another long discussion in this thread, just Google "lead bullets in polygonal barrel".

And you'll find that there is a lot of stupidity on the internet.

SW uses polygonal rifling in it's X frames and developed loads jointly with CorBon using cast bullets, but hey, what do they know?

WiskyT
11-11-2010, 17:37
I really don't know why this lead bullet thing won't go away, I have first hand experience with a Glock 30 with nearly 50,000 rounds of hardcast through it and no sign of any trouble. It's always a "somebody said that somebody else said" argument.

Careful, the Cardinals will try you for heresy.

GRR
11-11-2010, 17:47
Except in this case the "somebody" is GLOCK. It's in bold red type in the owners manual that comes with every Glock.

So why didn't Glock consider boolits? The only area where reloading is a relatively common activity is in the US. If you think we went through a dry spell finding components, you might look at what folks in other countries go through. So, given the fact tha we tend to reload more than anywhere else in the world, and that we tend to cast more than anywhere else, the use of boolits is pretty well limited to the US. Glock was building a Austrian military gun, then a world gun. Boolits were just not part of the requirements.

Page number? I don't find anything in bold red or any other type about lead bullets in the manual that came with mine.

AJE
11-11-2010, 20:04
The only thing that has choked any of my Glocks is using semi-wad cutters in my .45. They also jammed my 1911.

I'll stick with round nose.

eta: My Glock 21 has a Lone Wolf barrel, and they were lead semi-wad cutters.

NonPCnraRN
11-12-2010, 16:41
Yesterday I shot some Double Tap WFNGC 200 gr ammo in my G23 and G27. I had 1 failure of rounds going into battery with the G23 and G27. One was half way through a mag and the other was when I inserted a new mag and used the slide release. I could not push the slide forward although when I cleared the stuck rounds the rest fired without a hitch. These Glocks also had identical problems with some Fiochi 180 gr fmj truncated cone ammo. The failure to go into battery occured about 2 out of 50 rounds using 2 pistols. Both Glocks were unused for about 2 years and had not been cleaned or lubed or prior to shooting. I wanted to see how they would perform if one used a gun that had not seen any service or mainenance for a long period. The only thing I did was to make sure the bore was clean of any debris such as dust or lint. I will have to retest the guns after a proper cleaning and lubing. I felt that the problem was with the guns, not the DT WFN ammo as it also occured with the Fiochi truncated cone ammo also. It was noted that the DT 200 gr WFNGC ammo was easier to shoot than the 180 gr fmj truncated cone ammo. My trigger finger was pretty sore after 50 rounds of the fmj ammo. Another plus of the WFNGC ammo was that it cut clean holes in the target just like a full wadcutter would.

Colorado4Wheel
11-12-2010, 17:07
I really don't know why this lead bullet thing won't go away, I have first hand experience with a Glock 30 with nearly 50,000 rounds of hardcast through it and no sign of any trouble. It's always a "somebody said that somebody else said" argument.

I have first hand experiance with perfectly good Lead Bullets Loads not working well in a Glock. Doesn't make either of us wrong. You have to have the right combo to work in a Glock barrel. My two most recent attempts failed horribly in a Glock barrel but shoot great in my KKM and even a LW barrel.

GOA Guy
11-12-2010, 17:14
9m/m I usually shoot a 147 LFN
10m/m I shoot 200 LFP and various jacketed bullets
40 I usually shoot a 170/175 LSWC
45 I usually shoot a 200 LSWC

In my experience Glocks in general are not very fussy about bullet shape but some 45s (my G21 runs like a champ) especially G30s don't run well with LSWCs.

Sonnytoo
11-12-2010, 17:17
I have a G36 .45 Auto and load only RN or HP's. My 36 will not load SWC's.
Sonnytoo

G36_Me
11-13-2010, 07:15
For me and my G36...
1) it shoots LSWC (lead semi-wadcutter) just fine
2) I load them down to absolute minimum, you can see them crawling downrange, very slow. Very fun and enjoyable to shoot. Accurate.

the only problem I have experience with these loads...
Cannot go +1. There just isn't enough power/velocity/slide action to extract and load the 1st round cycling into the chamber. Fix, just don't load +1 with this reload.

Also zero leading with my LSWC in the factory barrel.

I bought a Wolf barrel, but it won't feed LSWC reliability, so it sits in the safe. Of course, the Wolf barrel eats FMJ, but I didn't buy it to shoot FMJ.

Edmo01
11-14-2010, 13:31
My favorite 40 S&W Load:

155 grain Rainier flat point TCJ (total copper jacket) bullets over 5.0 grains of W231 powder

My Gen2 G23 loves 'em.

Edmo

garander
11-14-2010, 18:30
just bought some hunters supply keith style 255 grainers .452 for my 45 colt.
i was wondering if i could run a few of these through my glock 30?

sourdough44
11-15-2010, 04:54
I am biased towards the boring RN in semi-autos. They don't look as cool or menacing as the HPs & others but reliability & function is top priority.

ilgunguygt
11-15-2010, 14:54
just bought some hunters supply keith style 255 grainers .452 for my 45 colt.
i was wondering if i could run a few of these through my glock 30?
I have shot 250-255gr 45acps before, they were my uncles handloads for bowling pin matches. It will depend on if you can get them to feed or not. There is load data out there though.

dbarry
11-18-2010, 19:16
my glocks eat anything style...