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Quack
11-13-2010, 06:14
Looks like Springfield did something right and make a enhanced gun w/o FCS
I'll probably pick one up :)
Street price is $750-$800
http://www.springfield-armory.com/1911RO/1911RangeOfficer.htm

http://www.springfield-armory.com/1911RO/Photos/1911020.jpg

ronin.45
11-13-2010, 06:21
I do like no FCS. If they make it in stainless I might have to find one myself.

drc767
11-13-2010, 06:30
If they would only do something with those sights and front strap, it would be interesting. Looks like a Loaded with a couple changes.

Quack
11-13-2010, 06:55
the build is similar to the TM/TRP and not the loaded line.

motorcopm4
11-13-2010, 07:07
FCS make no sense to me

Cerebrus
11-13-2010, 08:15
I do like it.. I also like the idea that they are selling an enhanced loaded at loaded prices.. It is tempting..

Officer's Match
11-13-2010, 08:21
Now that is the most interesting production 1911 I've seen introduced in a while. Looks to have NM frame, and SA claims the same build as the TRP/TM without the bellsnwhistles. Make a heck of a base gun too for tinkerers. I just like not having to put up with FCS and TACTICAL.

drc767
11-13-2010, 08:24
FCS make no sense to me

They make all the sense in the world to some.....I just don't think they should be standard on damn near every production people made. I find them very functional for press checks (chamber check), ect, but I really don't care for the looks of them. They are certainly functional, especially with some of these slick finishes on some of these pistols, especially on a hot, humid southeastern day.

RonS
11-13-2010, 08:39
I like it.

INJoker
11-13-2010, 08:40
I've been looking at a TRP for a while now, but the price was holding me back a bit. I really want a full size for carry. Obviously, I'd swap out the sights.

If they made this in stainless, I would give it serious consideration.

Tagged.

Hokie1911
11-13-2010, 08:55
That is a great looking pistola. Add a 10-8 rear/tritium front and it would be juuuuuust right. :thumbsup:

25LPI would have been nice too.

Hokie1911
11-13-2010, 09:07
Hey Brian, go ahead and pick one up. We need a RO vs Trojan comparison. :supergrin:

BOGE
11-13-2010, 09:10
Toss the guide rod, throw on some night sights and you have a good self defense 1911.

Officer's Match
11-13-2010, 09:47
25LPI would have been nice too.


Leaves a nice spot for some golfballing. :cool:

Quack
11-13-2010, 10:09
Toss the guide rod, throw on some night sights and you have a good self defense 1911.

It doesn't have a FLGR

Quack
11-13-2010, 10:11
http://www.springfield-armory.com/1911RO/Photos/1911-A1-45c.jpg

hikerpaddler
11-13-2010, 11:05
Pretty much a Loaded with adjustable sights, even though the marketing blurb wants you to think "TRP". But the loadeds are great guns.

Officer's Match
11-13-2010, 11:22
Pretty much a Loaded with adjustable sights, even though the marketing blurb wants you to think "TRP". But the loadeds are great guns.


Actually, wrong on both accounts. Loadeds are mediocre, and these are built to far superior levels if they (SA) are telling the truth about TRP/TM build.

woodrowNC
11-13-2010, 11:26
I like it. Don't care for the sights but other than that its a very clean looking gun.
Vertical slide serrations would be nice too.

Bill Lumberg
11-13-2010, 11:30
Correct on both counts.

Pretty much a Loaded with adjustable sights, even though the marketing blurb wants you to think "TRP". But the loadeds are great guns.

PlasticGuy
11-13-2010, 11:42
I like it a lot. Simple and clean, and well built. I would like 10-8 sights on it for carry, but in the role of a good quality range gun that could also be carried (which seems to be their intent), I think they nailed it. Nice work, Springfield.

Quack
11-13-2010, 12:56
Pretty much a Loaded with adjustable sights, even though the marketing blurb wants you to think "TRP". But the loadeds are great guns.

Then a TRP and TM are Loadeds with front strap checkering

Bill Lumberg
11-13-2010, 13:19
Nope. TRP does not equal Loaded. Range Officer does not equal TRP or TM, but damn near equals Loaded, save for a different guide rod and lack of front serrations. This stuff isn't hard. Simply compare the attributes of the PI9128LP and the PX9151LP at springfieldarmory.com. Dar near the same. Nice guns, fair price, both of them.

motorcopm4
11-13-2010, 13:34
I find them very functional for press checks (chamber check), ect,

Im able to press check my duty glock without FCS but dont really need to Its always loaded

drc767
11-13-2010, 14:16
Im able to press check my duty glock without FCS but dont really need to Its always loaded

Congrats....

FM12
11-13-2010, 14:31
Adj sights, yay!!!! Like the looks of this one!

knedrgr
11-13-2010, 15:02
Pretty much a Loaded with adjustable sights, even though the marketing blurb wants you to think "TRP". But the loadeds are great guns.

Loaded doesn't have Match grade barrel. And Loaded slide to frame fitting is a little looser than a TRP.

woodrowNC
11-13-2010, 15:33
That is a great looking pistola. Add a 10-8 rear/tritium front and it would be juuuuuust right. :thumbsup:

25LPI would have been nice too.

you're right. the more i look at it, the more i like it. except the sights of course. and i don't know whats up with me and vertical slide serrations. i just prefer vertical. i pick my gi up monday and i'm already looking ahead to the next.

Hokie1911
11-13-2010, 15:38
i pick my gi up monday and i'm already looking ahead to the next.

It's a sickness. There is no cure...except to buy more. :supergrin:

woodrowNC
11-13-2010, 15:46
It's a sickness. There is no cure...except to buy more. :supergrin:

well, i don't do drugs, i quit playing golf, i don't gamble, don't have any kids. i work to make money to buy things i want. this is what i want. :supergrin:

samuse
11-13-2010, 17:23
Nice. A back to basics match gun. Looks just like a Baer Concept I.

StevieJ
11-13-2010, 17:26
I just noticed this on the front page. Definitely a nice looking 1911.

knedrgr
11-13-2010, 17:50
That is a great looking pistola. Add a 10-8 rear/tritium front and it would be juuuuuust right. :thumbsup:

And a whole lot of JB Weld or soldering to make that space look right with the new 10-8 rear sight... :crying:

Can't stand target sights.

Nestor
11-13-2010, 18:01
I like it.

rsxr22
11-13-2010, 18:57
Put some FSC on it and it would be a winner in my book. You get a lil chubby for Springer's, dont ya Don? :)

Quack
11-13-2010, 19:09
Put some FSC on it and it would be a winner in my book. You get a lil chubby for Springer's, dont ya Don? :)

if you put FCS on it, then it would be called a Trophy Match :rofl:

I like Springer's.
if this is fit like a TM/TRP and has the street price of $750, then it's a no brainer.
I haven't handled one yet, but will probably pick one up if i like how it feels.
The few posts that i've read from people that have had a chance to handle them do say that they are well built like the TRP/TM.

My guess is that they are making a gun to compete with the STI Spartan and feeling out the market. the 3 things that the RO has going for it (over the Spartan) is that it is forged, no FCS and no billboard that the Spartan has. It also appears that it is built in IL (like the TM/TRP) rather than the Philippines (STI Spartan), which may factor in to the general buying public.

INJoker
11-13-2010, 19:13
Anyone have any insider info on whether or not these will be available in stainless?

If so, I will be all over one in the next couple of weeks...

Quack
11-13-2010, 19:24
no, carbon steel only.

INJoker
11-13-2010, 19:28
no, carbon steel only.

It's not necessarily a deal-breaker for me, but it is a consideration.

If I knew for sure could get one of these in stainless, I'd probably have ordered one today.

rem2429
11-13-2010, 19:30
So does this mean it wil be made in the usa?

Quack
11-13-2010, 19:33
So does this mean it wil be made in the usa?

built in IL, just like the TM/TRP.

rsxr22
11-13-2010, 19:42
if you put FCS on it, then it would be called a Trophy Match :rofl:

I like Springer's.
if this is fit like a TM/TRP and has the street price of $750, then it's a no brainer.
I haven't handled one yet, but will probably pick one up if i like how it feels.
The few posts that i've read from people that have had a chance to handle them do say that they are well built like the TRP/TM.

My guess is that they are making a gun to compete with the STI Spartan and feeling out the market. the 3 things that the RO has going for it (over the Spartan) is that it is forged, no FCS and no billboard that the Spartan has. It also appears that it is built in IL (like the TM/TRP) rather than the Philippines (STI Spartan), which may factor in to the general buying public.

I was just messing with you. Springer makes a hell of gun! We recently started looking into stocking the Spartans and Trojans at the shop, but their impossible to make any money on and be able to sell. We have been selling an abudance of the RIA's though. I just started dabbling in Cerakote and put the Duracoat to bed, and a lot of people have already been requesting refinishing jobs on the RIA's, but I need to do a few samples first to work out the kinks. It is kinda hard to beat $479 when comparing the RIA and Spartan, especially when the only plus it really has is the trigger, but one could rework the RIA internals or replace for cheaper then the Spartan. I hope Springer does good with it though, it definitely is a looker!

Quack
11-13-2010, 19:49
I was just messing with you. Springer makes a hell of gun! We recently started looking into stocking the Spartans and Trojans at the shop, but their impossible to make any money on and be able to sell. We have been selling an abudance of the RIA's though. I just started dabbling in Cerakote and put the Duracoat to bed, and a lot of people have already been requesting refinishing jobs on the RIA's, but I need to do a few samples first to work out the kinks. It is kinda hard to beat $479 when comparing the RIA and Spartan, especially when the only plus it really has is the trigger, but one could rework the RIA internals or replace for cheaper then the Spartan. I hope Springer does good with it though, it definitely is a looker!

you guys at the Summit County show this weekend?

i might have one by next weekend. i'm headed down to KY this coming week, so one of the shops along the way might have one :rofl:

Quack
11-13-2010, 20:03
and for those that want a fixed rear sight, use the Harrison rear sight

http://shop.harrisoncustom.com/images/thumbs/0000270.jpeg

rsxr22
11-13-2010, 20:17
Were up at Medina this weekend. We are going to be checking into getting 1 or 2 for the store Quack so if we can come in contact with one, i will give you a heads up

Quack
11-13-2010, 20:26
that's what i meant, Medina, Summit, what's the difference :rofl:

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
11-13-2010, 20:28
They don't come out with many new 1911 variations lately - the EMP was the real last major one... I hope they come out with some more...

I liked some of what they sold in the 1990s.

Quack
11-13-2010, 20:29
They don't come out with many new 1911 variations lately - the EMP was the real last major one... I hope they come out with some more...

I liked some of what they sold in the 1990s.

+1

i'm still :crying: about the Compact that i sold :crying:

MarkCO
11-13-2010, 20:46
Like the gun...HATE the name. How the heck do they think they can trademark "Range Officer". Poor form IMHO.

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
11-13-2010, 20:50
Like the gun...HATE the name. How the heck do they think they can trademark "Range Officer". Poor form IMHO.

I beleive they trademarked the name "race gun" several years back

bac1023
11-13-2010, 20:52
Hey Brian, go ahead and pick one up. We need a RO vs Trojan comparison. :supergrin:

Looks a bit like a Loaded to me. :)

Quack
11-13-2010, 20:58
Like the gun...HATE the name. How the heck do they think they can trademark "Range Officer". Poor form IMHO.

I do have to admit the name is bad, but at least the name isn't on the gun anywhere.

I think a better name would have been something about competition. when i hear "officer" in 1911 speak, i think of small guns.

if they made one in 9mm (along with .45ACP), then they could have marketed them for ESP and CDP and sold them in pairs. i would've bought a matched pair for $1500 (street price)

Quack
11-13-2010, 21:43
Springfield Armory Hand Guns (Pistols)
SPRGFLD RANGE OFR 45ACP 5'' 7RD BLUE
Product ID: 501496
MFG ID: PI9128LP
$681.99

knedrgr
11-13-2010, 21:46
and for those that want a fixed rear sight, use the Harrison rear sight

http://shop.harrisoncustom.com/images/thumbs/0000270.jpeg

That's the only saving grace for me ever thinking of buying a 1911 that has a factory target sight.

carguy2244
11-13-2010, 22:18
Springfield Armory Hand Guns (Pistols)
SPRGFLD RANGE OFR 45ACP 5'' 7RD BLUE
Product ID: 501496
MFG ID: PI9128LP
$681.99

where did you find one at that price? i need a new gun now!!!!

Quack
11-13-2010, 22:21
i got my sources ;)

knedrgr knows that i can find deals

knedrgr
11-13-2010, 22:38
i got my sources ;)

knedrgr knows that i can find deals

Half of the guns I have are do to Quack's super deals that he had found. :faint:

Quack
11-13-2010, 22:41
Half of the guns I have are do to Quack's super deals that he had found. :faint:

and that's not even taking into account all the car parts that i've found too :rofl:

GVFlyer
11-13-2010, 22:48
Considering that the gun is named the Range Officer, I don't have an issue with the target sights.

Quack
11-13-2010, 23:13
I do like no FCS. If they make it in stainless I might have to find one myself.

that would almost be the Camp Perry model that they had, except that it didn't have a BTGS.

knedrgr
11-13-2010, 23:13
and that's not even taking into account all the car parts that i've found too :rofl:

Good thing that has been toned down. :wavey:

Quack
11-13-2010, 23:14
you think? at least the moto's aren't as expensive to mod :rofl:

knedrgr
11-13-2010, 23:25
you think? at least the moto's aren't as expensive to mod :rofl:

At least we only need to buy 2 tires for those trackdays. Although, suspensions aren't cheap. That's the only downfall.

okie
11-14-2010, 01:13
It doesn't have a FLGR

That's a good thing:thumbsup::supergrin:

okie
11-14-2010, 01:23
I'm diggin that RO, do you know what I am saying:supergrin:

bac1023
11-14-2010, 06:05
It's not necessarily a deal-breaker for me, but it is a consideration.

If I knew for sure could get one of these in stainless, I'd probably have ordered one today.

Carbon steel is better for a 1911, in my opinion.

I much prefer it over stainless. All my top 1911s are carbon for a reason.

woodrowNC
11-14-2010, 07:20
Carbon steel is better for a 1911, in my opinion.

I much prefer it over stainless. All my top 1911s are carbon for a reason.

honestly, i've never really cared for stainless semis. revolvers are different for some reason. that said, i've weird tastes sometimes in firearms. (perfer vertical slide serrations, spurred hammers, low sights).

either way, big giant head eric is killing me with that RO ad. i want one. and soon.
though my wife and i have a wonderful relationship, i don't think she'd understand 2 in one week.

den888
11-14-2010, 11:09
Looks nice !

spartan985
11-14-2010, 13:50
And me.... looking for his first 1911... hmm.

I like it!

HAIL CAESAR
11-14-2010, 15:43
+1

i'm still :crying: about the Compact that i sold :crying:

You should be!!!:tongueout:

woodrowNC
11-14-2010, 16:49
And me.... looking for his first 1911... hmm.

I like it!

it's the only ad i've noticed since they put it up. RO NOW SHIPPING

rsxr22
11-14-2010, 17:28
no plans as of yet to offer this in 9mm huh? Im really surprised about that

Hokie1911
11-14-2010, 17:30
no plans as of yet to offer this in 9mm huh? Im really surprised about that

I'd be all over that. :thumbsup:

Quack
11-14-2010, 17:31
if i were Springfield, i would've offered them as something like an IDPA pack.

the .45ACP for CDP and a 9mm for ESP. that would've been a perfect pair :supergrin:

Quack
11-14-2010, 17:32
I'd be all over that. :thumbsup:

what would you sell? :tongueout: :rofl:

glock2740
11-14-2010, 17:34
If they would only do something with those sights and front strap, it would be interesting. Looks like a Loaded with a couple changes.
Those were my exact thoughts. If they put front strap checkering on it and offered it with fixed 3 dot night sights and in blued and stainless they could $900-$1000 all day long. Would be a great choice for someone wanting a SA with all the features of the Kimber TLE, minus the FCS. Since we all know that Kimber will never offer the TLE without FCS.

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
11-14-2010, 17:35
Those were my exact thoughts. If they put front strap checkering on it and offered it with fixed 3 dot night sights and in blued and stainless they could $900-$1000 all day long. Would be a great choice for someone wanting a SA with all the features of the Kimber TLE, minus the FCS. Since we all know that Kimber will never offer the TLE without FCS.

That would probably make it a TRP then....

glock2740
11-14-2010, 17:37
That is a great looking pistola. Add a 10-8 rear/tritium front and it would be juuuuuust right. :thumbsup:

25LPI would have been nice too.
Bingo!

Quack
11-14-2010, 17:38
That would probably make it a TRP then....

yep :wavey:

Quack
11-14-2010, 17:39
That is a great looking pistola. Add a 10-8 rear/tritium front and it would be juuuuuust right. :thumbsup:

25LPI would have been nice too.

then it would be a TRP w/o FCS :tongueout:

glock2740
11-14-2010, 17:47
That would probably make it a TRP then....

then it would be a TRP w/o FCS :tongueout:
It would be a cheaper version of the TRP without FCS and an ambi.

Hokie1911
11-14-2010, 17:49
what would you sell? :tongueout: :rofl:

My spleen? I only need one kidney right? :supergrin:

Hokie1911
11-14-2010, 17:51
then it would be a TRP w/o FCS :tongueout:

...and the unwanted ambi. Isn't the TRP 20LPI? Some of us have delicate hands and prefer 25LPI...and saving $500. :wavey:

Officer's Match
11-14-2010, 17:51
It would be a cheaper version of the TRP without FCS and an ambi.

And the ever important TACTICAL. Or a FLGR.

Quack
11-14-2010, 17:55
if you want the front strap checkered on the RO, send it in to the CS. it'll cost $250+ shipping.

that would be the plan with the one i get.

Quack
11-14-2010, 17:56
And the ever important TACTICAL. Or a FLGR.


but now you have the "1 of 500" on the frame :rofl:

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
11-14-2010, 18:07
...and the unwanted ambi. Isn't the TRP 20LPI? Some of us have delicate hands and prefer 25LPI...and saving $500. :wavey:

Yes, I prefer 25 LPI too

Quack
11-14-2010, 18:09
Yes, I prefer 25 LPI too

don't lie...you like Pachmayr grips instead of checkering :whistling:

Quack
11-14-2010, 18:21
some more found info...

Springfield is making a run of them with 1 of 500 on the slide for their dealers. The dealers can keep it or sell it. They are making them without the 1 of 500 for the general public. I can buy one with 1 of 500 on the slide from my local dealer for a $50 upcharge.

Hokie1911
11-14-2010, 18:25
some more found info...

If I send it to the Custom Shop for FS checkering...will they slap TACTICOOL on the frame for me? :rofl:

Quack
11-14-2010, 18:29
If I send it to the Custom Shop for FS checkering...will they slap TACTICOOL on the frame for me? :rofl:

i can do it for you with a dremel ;)

Hokie1911
11-14-2010, 18:32
i can do it for you with a dremel ;)

Bonus! :thumbsup:

maslin
11-14-2010, 18:45
+1

i'm still :crying: about the Compact that i sold :crying:

I love my Compact. Made in 2002, I picked it up used for $400 a couple years ago.

I'm liking the RO as well, gonna have to check one out.

Ryobi
11-15-2010, 04:34
looks a bit like a loaded to me. :)
. .

ambluemax
11-15-2010, 09:42
Is is park or AK finished?

For a competition gun, they should have shipped it with 8rd mags instead of 7...no IDPA/USPSA shooter worth their salt is using 7rds.

Its nice to see another NM frame offering. A model like this was a long time coming I think.

I already have a TRP and I would want an ambi and magwell on it anyway, so I'm not standing in line to buy one...unless they come out with a 9mm.

Quack
11-15-2010, 11:46
Is is park or AK finished?

For a competition gun, they should have shipped it with 8rd mags instead of 7...no IDPA/USPSA shooter worth their salt is using 7rds.

Its nice to see another NM frame offering. A model like this was a long time coming I think.

I already have a TRP and I would want an ambi and magwell on it anyway, so I'm not standing in line to buy one...unless they come out with a 9mm.

It's parked.
Most people are forgetting that this is a budget competition gun.
A lot of people probably don't use factory mags for comp.
No magwell let's the user choose the magwell they like.
Some shooters like wide thumb safeties, while others like thin.

For what the RO is and if street price is less than $750, then they have a winner.

ambluemax
11-15-2010, 13:50
I get it, and I definatly like the concept. Its just a pet peive of mine with the mags...IMO no factory new 1911 should ship with 7rd OEM mags in this day and age.

A base NM frame is a very good idea from springfield. Being used to an NM fram or comperable other brand, I can help but feel a little disappointed when I pick up a Brazilian assembled one. Nothing wrong with them- still an excellent value, but makes me appreciate what I have in the TRP.

Do any of the online distributers have them yet? Davidsons doesn't show them on their gun gene yet....:dunno:

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
11-15-2010, 13:58
don't lie...you like Pachmayr grips instead of checkering :whistling:

True :supergrin::supergrin: - but for the money, I still WANT checkering underneath my pachmeyers...

I had to cancel a Custom Carry 9mm earlier this year due to health reasons. But, I contemplated not getting any checkering, because I knew I would be putting the pachmeyers on the gun anyway - but for a $2000+ gun - I can't help but order the checkering, because a gun in that price range should come with it.

Quack
11-15-2010, 14:00
Do any of the online distributers have them yet? Davidsons doesn't show them on their gun gene yet....:dunno:

not that i know of.
from what i've found, the ones marked "1 of 500" went to dealers, the regular guns will not have that marking. there also has been a report of one having an ambi installed and not marked "1 of 500"

Leigh
11-15-2010, 14:08
Aside from 1970's outdated and dangerous "press check" practices, a shooter's hand/fingers should be kept as far away from the muzzle of a loaded handgun (any handgun) as possible.

There is NOTHING that FCS allow that rearward slide serrations do not.

Quack
11-15-2010, 14:32
more info


Just got off the phone with my store's springer rep.

The Range officer with Adj sights is going to be the only model in this line.

It has the same barrel and frame as a TRP, just without the fancy additions. The slide comes off the same line as the trp parts and will be fitted to the same level of care as the TRP.

Retail is $940 and Suggested dealer is $704

As to what guns are made in the US etc, the TRP, Trophy, MC operator and occasional loaded and mil-spec models are made in IL. The Loaded models flip back and forth between brazil and US manufac depending on parts supply. One month it could be Brazil and the next US. He stated that the vast majority of loaded models are shipping with the one piece barrels these days.

ambluemax
11-15-2010, 14:33
Aside from 1970's outdated and dangerous "press check" practices, a shooter's hand/fingers should be kept as far away from the muzzle of a loaded handgun (any handgun) as possible.

There is NOTHING that FCS allow that rearward slide serrations do not.

Don't feed the troll.....:upeyes:

YamaLink
11-15-2010, 14:56
I wish it had the frontstrap checkering. The cheapskate in me is thinking 'skateboard tape' and calling it a day.

tx787
11-15-2010, 15:54
I might seriously consider getting one of these next year. The price seems right, I really like that it doesn't have the billboards of the TRP and the name is silly but it looks like the name doesn't appear anywhere on the pistol, so I'm fine with that.

The biggest problem with the name is that it includes "officer" on a government sized 1911, my first thought when I saw the title of this thread was is this is an officer sized 1911 made for use at the range, and why.

ambluemax
11-15-2010, 16:53
What's in a name...with all the makes and models of 1911 on the market, they are running out of things to call them:dunno:

Officer's Match
11-15-2010, 17:23
The biggest problem with the name is that it includes "officer" on a government sized 1911, my first thought when I saw the title of this thread was is this is an officer sized 1911 made for use at the range, and why.

Understandable, but names can be deceiving, such as my namesake Colt Officer's Match:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/sly250r/Colts/IMG_0020.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/sly250r/Colts/IMG_0023.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/sly250r/Colts/IMG_0026.jpg

Mayhem like Me
11-15-2010, 20:06
Just layed away a RO springer...:)

trigger was verrrrry nice fit was the tightest in the case.

Quack
11-15-2010, 20:20
Just layed away a RO springer...:)

trigger was verrrrry nice fit was the tightest in the case.

nice!!!

Quack
11-15-2010, 20:41
hope to find one in my travels this week :)

Quack
11-15-2010, 21:05
RO now on Springfields site

http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=154

Hokie1911
11-15-2010, 21:09
hope to find one in my travels this week :)

So no Brown now?

Quack
11-15-2010, 21:18
So no Brown now?

Don't think so, don't really want to sell anything and regret the sale. ROR.
Also didn't say I was buying a RO, just hoping to find one. Fin didn't have one when I stopped by today.

Cerebrus
11-15-2010, 22:08
Don't think so, don't really want to sell anything and regret the sale. ROR.
Also didn't say I was buying a RO, just hoping to find one. Fin didn't have one when I stopped by today.

Prolly better off having the SA custom shop build ya that 9mm.. just sayin..

u4ea
11-16-2010, 07:02
It's between this gun and the TRP for me... Can't decide!

Cerebrus
11-16-2010, 07:13
It's between this gun and the TRP for me... Can't decide!

Minus well go for the RO.. and use the rest of the $$ on ammo..

Quack
11-16-2010, 07:14
TRP for hd

bac1023
11-16-2010, 07:16
It's between this gun and the TRP for me... Can't decide!

I'd say TRP, actually.

Cerebrus
11-16-2010, 07:18
I think that the RO would work just fine for HD.. night sights are not a necessity for that.. all ya need is a flashlight..

RMTactical
11-16-2010, 15:22
FCS make no sense to me

agreed. I hate them.

Glockdude1
11-16-2010, 15:36
Looks like Springfield did something right and make a enhanced gun w/o FCS
I'll probably pick one up :)
Street price is $750-$800
http://www.springfield-armory.com/1911RO/1911RangeOfficer.htm

http://www.springfield-armory.com/1911RO/Photos/1911020.jpg

I am a Springfield fan.

:thumbsup:

Quack
11-16-2010, 16:26
I am a Springfield fan.

:thumbsup:

you need to change your screen name then :animlol:

u4ea
11-16-2010, 16:29
What is the msrp of this gun is it the 750 or 1k point?

Glockdude1
11-16-2010, 16:30
you need to change your screen name then :animlol:

"SpringfieldDude1"

Naaah...... :supergrin:

Quack
11-16-2010, 16:33
What is the msrp of this gun is it the 750 or 1k point?

MSRP is ~$950

Hokie1911
11-16-2010, 16:35
MSRP is ~$950

I believe Quack said street price $700-750.

Quack
11-16-2010, 16:41
:whistling:
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16302895&postcount=101

u4ea
11-16-2010, 17:47
What does "suggested dealer" mean?

Quack
11-16-2010, 17:50
What does "suggested dealer" mean?

it means what you think it means :rofl:

u4ea
11-16-2010, 17:55
I am not trolling, I don't know. I am assuming a dealer can buy them for that price, then sell at 950 for a profit?

AZ Husker
11-16-2010, 18:37
What a terrible name for a gun. All I can picture are nasty little men running up and down the firing line screaming at people!

ctfireman
11-16-2010, 20:30
I like it! But then again there isn't a springfield i don't like.

youngbuck
11-16-2010, 21:15
Hope I dont get flamed for this but would it be possible to call SA and order an RO with fixed night sights? Then just add front checkering and what ever else you wanted so you basically had a TRP without the light rail, FCS, and no Tactical on the frame?

Quack
11-16-2010, 21:22
Hope I dont get flamed for this but would it be possible to call SA and order an RO with fixed night sights? Then just add front checkering and what ever else you wanted so you basically had a TRP without the light rail, FCS, and no Tactical on the frame?

yep, it's called a Custom Carry and costs $1700 :faint:

Quack
11-16-2010, 21:27
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7766/springfieldcustomcarry0zu7.jpg

majette
11-16-2010, 21:52
Hope I dont get flamed for this but would it be possible to call SA and order an RO with fixed night sights? Then just add front checkering and what ever else you wanted so you basically had a TRP without the light rail, FCS, and no Tactical on the frame?

a friend got a special order of 20 SA guns. two were the RO, one marked 1 of 500 (apparently they offered dealers the 20 gun package, total of 500 packages). on the SA site they show the range officer with a standard recoil plug, his has a full length guide rod.

Officer's Match
11-16-2010, 22:56
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7766/springfieldcustomcarry0zu7.jpg
:drool::hearts:

rem2429
11-17-2010, 21:09
Anybody else secretly hoping for a 9mm?

Hokie1911
11-17-2010, 21:13
Anybody else secretly hoping for a 9mm?

:wavey:

Boxerglocker
11-18-2010, 18:28
Anybody else secretly hoping for a 9mm?

:wavey:

Yep, me too! I got to fondle a RO today at a local shop $879 was the asking price. Pretty sweet, but a little high compared to what I have beeen hearing.

Quack
11-18-2010, 18:33
the price should drop after a little while. the shop i was at had them for $849.

ghawk249
11-18-2010, 18:48
Stupid question guys but what do you mean by the term FCS?

Quack
11-18-2010, 18:50
Front Cocking Serrations

Mayhem like Me
11-18-2010, 20:04
MSRP is ~$950

my shop had it for 689 .. the one of 500 they had was 729..

I got the cheap one it had the better trigger and smoothest frame /slide fit.

Hokie1911
11-18-2010, 20:06
$689??? Nice score! :thumbsup:

Hokie1911
11-18-2010, 21:29
There's 10 of them on GB right now. From $800-$1,000.

auto45
11-19-2010, 05:06
With the hand fitting of the TRP line, more variations and good pricing...this line could "impact" Kimber sales....IMHO.

And, since it's a NM frame...the psychological advantage of saying "made in America" doesn't hurt either.

BEER
11-19-2010, 07:02
i'm really liking the looks of this gun. to me it looks like a poor man's gold cup, which would be perfect for me since both of my actual gc's have turned into safe queens.

i'm not gonna hold my breath but i'm really hoping they offer this in a commander size at some point.

Hokie1911
11-19-2010, 07:35
i'm really liking the looks of this gun. to me it looks like a poor man's gold cup, which would be perfect for me since both of my actual gc's have turned into safe queens.

i'm not gonna hold my breath but i'm really hoping they offer this in a commander size at some point.

Commander length 9mm. Now we're talking! :rock:

skipsan
11-19-2010, 14:11
Just took one home this a.m. for $799. It is stamped "1 of 500" whatever that means. The dealer had both with and without that stamp.

A quick strip showed that a wrench was needed to turn the bushing in the slide, but the bushing to barrel fit was an easy slip fit. No machining marks on the insideof the frame and slide that I could see. G.I. guide rod.

Nice pistol, but nothing extrodinary either good or bad. Anxious to try it against the LB PII as except for the finish (blued vs park) they are identicle pretty much in appearance. I can shoot the LB better than the others so am curious to see where the R.O. fits in.

Hokie1911
11-19-2010, 14:34
Just took one home this a.m. for $799. It is stamped "1 of 500" whatever that means. The dealer had both with and without that stamp.

A quick strip showed that a wrench was needed to turn the bushing in the slide, but the bushing to barrel fit was an easy slip fit. No machining marks on the insideof the frame and slide that I could see. G.I. guide rod.

Nice pistol, but nothing extrodinary either good or bad. Anxious to try it against the LB PII as except for the finish (blued vs park) they are identicle pretty much in appearance. I can shoot the LB better than the others so am curious to see where the R.O. fits in.

:needspics:

u4ea
11-19-2010, 15:56
I just talked to my gun shop. I am going to go check out/ pick up a RO on Monday for $729.. Seems like a decent price. If I love it, I can sell it for $675 and then buy a TRP. :)

Quack
11-19-2010, 15:59
buy it for $729, sell it for $675 then buy a TRP?

why not just buy the TRP and skip losing $54 :dunno:

polizei1
11-19-2010, 16:00
Why would you buy it for $730, then sell it for $675, all to just buy a TRP? Just buy a TRP if you want a TRP...am I missing something?

Ah damn Quack...great minds think alike? Oh no I'm cursed. :rofl:

u4ea
11-19-2010, 16:02
The same gun store has the TRP that I want for $14xx... How much am I giving up if I get the RO instead of a TRP?

u4ea
11-19-2010, 16:03
buy it for $729, sell it for $675 then buy a TRP?

why not just buy the TRP and skip losing $54 :dunno:

I meant if I buy it and love it and want to upgrade, I can't imagine getting 100% of my money back but I could easily sell it at $675 since it'd be used.

Hokie1911
11-19-2010, 16:14
I meant if I buy it and love it and want to upgrade, I can't imagine getting 100% of my money back but I could easily sell it at $675 since it'd be used.

Why would I buy it used for $675 if I can get new for $729?

Go ahead and get it, run a few mags through it, and I'll take it off your hands for $600 so you can get your TRP. :rofl:

u4ea
11-19-2010, 16:15
Why would I buy it used for $675 if I can get new for $729?

Go ahead and get it, run a few mags through it, and I'll take it off your hands for $600 so you can get your TRP. :rofl:
lol...

I've never owned a 1911 so I don't know how much I'll miss this gun not having a rail. Everyone is talking about front strap checkering., Does it make THAT much difference? Is it mostly to get a good grip, or for looks that everyone wants it?

Hokie1911
11-19-2010, 16:18
lol...

I've never owned a 1911 so I don't know how much I'll miss this gun not having a rail. Everyone is talking about front strap checkering., Does it make THAT much difference? Is it mostly to get a good grip, or for looks that everyone wants it?

Hmmmm no FS checkering or rail? Better make it $550. :whistling:

Quack
11-19-2010, 16:18
you won't miss the rail, especially if you are looking for a holster.

Checkering is a good thing, it lets you keep a good grip on the gun.

Quack
11-19-2010, 16:19
Hmmmm no FS checkering or rail? Better make it $550. :whistling:

and no magwell or fiber optic sight, better make it $400....and i'll take it :whistling:

u4ea
11-19-2010, 16:22
you won't miss the rail, especially if you are looking for a holster.

Checkering is a good thing, it lets you keep a good grip on the gun.

I'll never have this gun/TRP in a holster since I don't ccw.. It will sit on my night stand every night and I will take it to the range or out with me when I go to visit friends who live in rural areas and have their own outdoor ranges. I've heard people online say they use skate board tape on guns with no checkering.. That sounds kinda ghetto to me.. I just don't know what to do and I am sure I look like a 15 year old kid confused about his first girlfriend since you guys are all 1911 gurus and I am asking simple questions haha.

Hokie1911
11-19-2010, 16:29
and no magwell or fiber optic sight, better make it $400....and i'll take it :whistling:

$401.00

http://tailsmagazines.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/bob-barker.jpg

Hokie1911
11-19-2010, 16:32
I'll never have this gun/TRP in a holster since I don't ccw.. It will sit on my night stand every night and I will take it to the range or out with me when I go to visit friends who live in rural areas and have their own outdoor ranges. I've heard people online say they use skate board tape on guns with no checkering.. That sounds kinda ghetto to me.. I just don't know what to do and I am sure I look like a 15 year old kid confused about his first girlfriend since you guys are all 1911 gurus and I am asking simple questions haha.

If you aren't carrying it and are going to infrequently shoot it.....I'd seriously consider the RO vs the TRP. Save the $500, drop some grip tape on the FS and call it a day. Does it look good like checkering? No. Does it work? Yes.

u4ea
11-19-2010, 16:34
Does it really cost so much to checker that Springfield left it off for a good reason, or what is the purpose? If it makes it safer to handle the gun, it seems like a no brainer to have it..

Hokie1911
11-19-2010, 16:39
Does it really cost so much to checker that Springfield left it off for a good reason, or what is the purpose? If it makes it safer to handle the gun, it seems like a no brainer to have it..

Typically checkering runs $200ish plus you would have to refinish the frame...which is extra $.

u4ea
11-19-2010, 16:40
I think I am most intrigued by the price, but it'd probably be more worth my while to just spring for the TRP. Having a rail could be huge in a HD situation.... Damnit lol

u4ea
11-19-2010, 16:43
I saw a FAQ on how to checker a gun by yourself... Looks hard as hell!

hikerpaddler
11-19-2010, 16:48
It's closer to a loaded than anything else. And the one thing that keeps a loaded from being great functionally is frontstrap checkering.

YamaLink
11-19-2010, 18:06
Closer to the Loaded than the Trophy Match?

It's closer to a loaded than anything else. And the one thing that keeps a loaded from being great functionally is frontstrap checkering.

hikerpaddler
11-19-2010, 18:51
Yes. .... Closer to the Loaded than the Trophy Match?

CobraR6
11-19-2010, 20:46
I got a quote locally for $699. He just got one in, it was still sitting in the box. His asking price was $799, but I was able to talk him down. I couldn't make it there today, but I will be having him put it on hold for me tomorrow. Hopefully I'll pick it up next week sometime. I'll be sure and post picks when I do. It will be my first 1911 purchase. I shoot IDPA's SSP division with my M&P, so now I can dabble in CDP a bit.

DRAGON1970
11-20-2010, 03:09
I'll never have this gun/TRP in a holster since I don't ccw.. It will sit on my night stand every night and I will take it to the range or out with me when I go to visit friends who live in rural areas and have their own outdoor ranges. I've heard people online say they use skate board tape on guns with no checkering.. That sounds kinda ghetto to me.. I just don't know what to do and I am sure I look like a 15 year old kid confused about his first girlfriend since you guys are all 1911 gurus and I am asking simple questions haha.

Try shooting IDPA or IPSC. Great fun and practice.

CobraR6
11-20-2010, 07:47
Try shooting IDPA or IPSC. Great fun and practice.

Absolutely agree! I've been shooting IDPA for a few years now, and it is the best saturday of the month. There are a lot of local clubs out there, and I am sure you could find one in your area. You don't need anything fancy to compete either; Your gun, three mags, a holster, and 2 mag pouches. The majority of the guys (girls) that shoot at our club are out there for a good time. There are those that are there to compete too. On any given month we have 30-45 shooters, and usually shoot 5 stages. IDPA should have a list of local clubs on their website, check them out and see if there is a club in your area. You won't regret it!

lawdog734
11-20-2010, 11:19
They had two at the gunshow. One was $729 the other was $699

robbcayman
11-21-2010, 17:41
How does this compare to say an STI Trojan? I've been on the fence forever about a 1911. My wife said to pick out a Christmas present for myself. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a 1911.

Also, I have a buddy who swears by his Rock Island Armory. I would appreciate any thoughts. I feel almost lost in a sea of information.
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Hokie1911
11-21-2010, 18:15
How does this compare to say an STI Trojan? I've been on the fence forever about a 1911. My wife said to pick out a Christmas present for myself. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a 1911.

Also, I have a buddy who swears by his Rock Island Armory. I would appreciate any thoughts. I feel almost lost in a sea of information.
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If your wife will let you spring for the Trojan, you probably won't find a better gun under $1k.

rsxr22
11-21-2010, 18:18
^ agreed

u4ea
11-22-2010, 18:48
Anyone here picked one up yet?

I went to my local gun store today with cash in hand. I handled the gun and liked the feel of it for the price. Went to purchase it and realized I had left my permit at home. I live 30 miles from this gun shop, so by the time I got home I didn't have time to drive back to purchase it. Maybe it's a sign to hold out for the TRP Operator LOL.. :)

CobraR6
11-22-2010, 19:10
I put my money down on mine this morning. I am waiting for a check to come for another gun I sold, before I pick it up. I am hoping to pick it up sometime this week.

The feel of the gun was great. I was very impressed with the slide to frame fit, VERY tight, no wiggle whatsoever. The trigger broke crisp, not as light as I usually have mine, but it should smooth up quite nicely. My M&P breaks clean at slightly over 3lbs. Another thing I noticed was that it includes 3 mags. Springfields website says it only comes with two. Technically it is ready to go for IDPA, that is if you can put up with the crappy holster/magpouch combo that comes with it.

Definitely a nice gun, especially for $699(tag said $799). The dealer also had a 1 of 500, but the price on it was $999.

skipsan
11-22-2010, 19:36
Sounds like some retailers are trying to "game" this 1 of 500 thing. The local retailer had at least three R.O.s--two with the 1 of 500 stamp, and one without. It was my choice--with or without--all for the same price.
I went with the stamp for the novelty, but don't think its worth a nickle more than one without--at least once the novelty dies down.

CobraR6
11-22-2010, 19:54
To be honest, when I called the dealer looking for one he said he had two, one with and one without. At the time I didn't know you paid a premium for the 1 of 500, and I asked him to put back the one without the marking. I personally prefer the frame without the extra markings.

bac1023
11-22-2010, 20:18
If your wife will let you spring for the Trojan, you probably won't find a better gun under $1k.

:agree:

u4ea
11-24-2010, 06:26
Springfield claims this gun is modeled after the TRP series, but it's 1/2 the price? The ad says it doesn't have the "extras" that the TRP has, but is that really it? It seems odd that this gun could be 1/2 the price due to adj sights, no checkering, rail and some other misc stuff. I am not a 1911 guru like Quack or bac, so help me read thru the marketing strategy on this gun. Is it as good of a SHOOTER as the TRP, just without those extras? I sold my gun tonight and am now gun-less for the first time in years. Sorry to the guys on here who have been annoyed with my dumb questions. Thanks guys.

Bill Lumberg
11-24-2010, 07:47
If you look at what they removed and what they added, it's perfectly logical that this gun would be priced similar to a loaded. Loadeds are good guns, but they're no TRP.

Quack
11-24-2010, 09:34
run the cost of the "Extras"

Armory Kote $150 (vs $80 for parkerizing)
Checkering 20LPI - $150
FCS - $100
SA Magwell - $140
Flatten and Serrate top of slide - $160 (on the TM)
Ambi safety - $100 (single is $80)

so if one were to buy a RO and make it a TRP/TM street cost would be the same after having the work done. I also feel that the RO would a better gun in the long run than the TM because it's carbon steel vs the TM's stainless steel.

The RO's that i handled in the shop are built close to the TRP/TM. The barrel is supposed to be the same as what's used with the TRP/TM (which used to be a Storm Lake barrel) as opposed to the 2pc barrels commonly used with the Loaded.
I haven't seen accuracy specs, but the TM/TRP are 2.5"@25yards, while Loaded's are 3.5"@25yards. so if you can get 1" better accuracy with a gun priced liked a Loaded, i would do it in a minute.

MarkCO
11-24-2010, 10:15
How does this compare to say an STI Trojan? I've been on the fence forever about a 1911. My wife said to pick out a Christmas present for myself. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a 1911.

Also, I have a buddy who swears by his Rock Island Armory. I would appreciate any thoughts. I feel almost lost in a sea of information.
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The Trojan is definately better than the RO. If that is in your price range, get it! I'd skip the RIA personally. I'd probably go with a Spartan over this new Springfield, and definately over a RIA.

BTW, have you read the FAQ stickied at the top of this forum? Bac and Quack both have many reviews in there, plus a lot of other good stuff to make the sea into more or a large lake.

BeckG19
11-24-2010, 10:49
The Trojan is definately better than the RO. If that is in your price range, get it! I'd skip the RIA personally. I'd probably go with a Spartan over this new Springfield, and definately over a RIA.
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I believe Spartan is made by same folks as RIA. STI makes great guns so does SA. Hate to say it.. Pick the one you you like the looks of....

MidwestRookie
12-28-2010, 01:12
I believe Spartan is made by same folks as RIA. STI makes great guns so does SA. Hate to say it.. Pick the one you you like the looks of....

the spartan only uses an RIA frame. it uses STI internals and is checked by STI themselves here in the US before shipping out. it's an STI just with an RIA frame..STI still stands behind it with their contingency program or whatever they call it that pays you if you use their gun and win a competition with it.

I'm still trying to decide if I want to save $100 for a nice set of VZ grips and replacing the fiber sights on the spartan or go with the RO for 750...gonna give it a couple more months, april = birthday so i'll probably pick one up then.

Quack
12-28-2010, 06:24
the spartan only uses an RIA frame. it uses STI internals and is checked by STI themselves here in the US before shipping out. it's an STI just with an RIA frame..STI still stands behind it with their contingency program or whatever they call it that pays you if you use their gun and win a competition with it.

I'm still trying to decide if I want to save $100 for a nice set of VZ grips and replacing the fiber sights on the spartan or go with the RO for 750...gonna give it a couple more months, april = birthday so i'll probably pick one up then.

Close...it uses the frame, side and barrel.

CobraR6
12-28-2010, 07:38
Sorry for taking so long to get a range report about the Springfield. Last week we had our indoor IDPA match, and I took the Springfield to try it out. I usually shoot SSP EX with my M&P, so going to the 1911 was quite a bit different. The gun performed excellent. It was very accurate, and 100% reliable. I put close to 100 rounds through it during the match. My scores weren't near what they usually are with my M&P, but none of that was the guns fault. It was my first time shooting a 1911, so I was still getting used to the timing and feel of the platform.

The only complaint I have is the weight of the trigger. It has broken in a good bit since I first received it. I would say it is very crisp and just under or right at 5lbs. I am used to the Burwell trigger on my M&P that is right at 3lbs, so that took a bit getting used to. A quick trip to the gunsmith will change that though.

The sights on the Springfield were not zeroed from the factory. It was shooting dead center, and about 6 inches low. It took less than a mag to sight it in. The adjustable sights are sharp around the edges, so for carry I would recommended changing out the rear sight. As for me, the only changes I will make to the sights is adding a F/O front sight.

All in all I am very pleased with my purchase. For the money I don't think you will find a 1911 that beats it. It is a heck of a value.

M1A Shooter
12-28-2010, 09:16
ive had a SA Milspec and a TRP and was looking at a loaded for a budget option until this came along. this will most likely be my next 1911.

Drestin Black
12-28-2010, 09:52
Close...it uses the frame, side and barrel.

I believe the sights are RIA also. Here is a pic of the RIA Medallion, the Spartan ia made on the same line by the same people. Same pistol with STI internals, slide serrations,etc. I would actually prefer the looks of a medallion and upgrade my own parts.

I would take the RO over a spartan though any day, forged frame and slide vs cast frame and extruded slide. The Trojan also has a cast frame, the Lawman is forged. That doesn't matter to some but it does to others.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/userimages/92132/722109352/pop_wm_100530.jpg

CobraR6
01-03-2011, 20:23
Just thought I'd post an update on the Range Officers trigger. I checked it with a digital pull gauge today and it came in right at 5.5 lbs. My guess was right at 5. It broke in to this weight, and really it is not a bad trigger at all. However, as we speak it is sitting at my Gunsmiths waiting for a trigger job. I couldn't make up my mind as to whether I would mess with it or not. In the end I figured I would just go for it and get it fixed up. I am anxious to get it back and see how it turned out.

rsxr22
01-03-2011, 20:34
Just thought I'd post an update on the Range Officers trigger. I checked it with a digital pull gauge today and it came in right at 5.5 lbs. My guess was right at 5. It broke in to this weight, and really it is not a bad trigger at all. However, as we speak it is sitting at my Gunsmiths waiting for a trigger job. I couldn't make up my mind as to whether I would mess with it or not. In the end I figured I would just go for it and get it fixed up. I am anxious to get it back and see how it turned out.

You made the right move! I have done a small amount of trigger work myself and it has turned out good, but it always came out better when giving it to my local guy. I was wondering about the pull because I was not impressed one bit with the way they pulled NIB

CobraR6
01-03-2011, 20:49
Honestly, the trigger isn't bad once it breaks in a bit. I am used to the 3lb Burwell trigger on my M&P, so the 5.5lbs is a bit more than I am used to. As for the Gunsmith, I happen to have an excellent local gunsmith that happens to be a good friend of mine as well. Having one that close makes it easy, I never even attempt to do anything myself, I just send it his way.

El_Ron1
01-03-2011, 22:19
run the cost of the "Extras"

Armory Kote $150 (vs $80 for parkerizing)
Checkering 20LPI - $150
FCS - $100
SA Magwell - $140
Flatten and Serrate top of slide - $160 (on the TM)
Ambi safety - $100 (single is $80)

That's the sign post up ahead, your next stop...


The Taurus Zone !

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srkr
05-01-2012, 08:58
Nope. TRP does not equal Loaded. Range Officer does not equal TRP or TM, but damn near equals Loaded, save for a different guide rod and lack of front serrations. This stuff isn't hard. Simply compare the attributes of the PI9128LP and the PX9151LP at springfieldarmory.com. Dar near the same. Nice guns, fair price, both of them.

Maybe I'm confused.....a TRP doesn't equal loaded??

Old post, I know...but I believe you are mistaken.

Shane