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WhiteCoyote
11-17-2010, 23:46
Picked up this S&W 340 M&P, .357 mag. today. It's a Scandium Alloy frame revolver. Weight 13.7 oz on my scale, S&W claims 13.3 oz. Front sight is XS Sight 24/7 Tritium Night sight. The most interesting thing about the 340 M&P is "NO LOCK"!!!
This should be fun to shoot.
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Maine
11-18-2010, 01:48
That's a great looking gun. Let us know what you think after shooting. If I could find one locally, priced reasonably Id probably buy it.

G19aps
11-19-2010, 08:59
I've got one that I bought in 07 but it has a lock. That's not why it's not fun to shoot though ;)

I wish they would put that front sight and u-notch rear on the 642. It should be $150-$200 less and most folks don't shoot .357 out of these anyway.

jamaicanj
11-22-2010, 20:21
Congrats.

This has been on my wish list and I'm glad that I held off as I've been hoping that the day would come for the 340 without the lock

den888
11-23-2010, 23:09
Congrats !

fastbolt
11-26-2010, 13:17
Congrats.

I like my early production M&P 340 quite a bit.

Is the SKU for your no-lock M&P 340 #103072?

Cooks128
11-26-2010, 13:28
I love my early model 340....it's not a range gun my any means but mine has seen some use.

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Wade-19
12-02-2010, 08:37
I've got one that I bought in 07 but it has a lock. That's not why it's not fun to shoot though ;)

I wish they would put that front sight and u-notch rear on the 642. It should be $150-$200 less and most folks don't shoot .357 out of these anyway.

IMHO they would sell a ton of 642s so equiped. I HATED shootimg my old 360.

2740dmx
12-24-2010, 07:12
Man....

I am wanting one of these no-lock 340 M&P so badly..

I am considering changing my carry weapon from a Glock 27 to an M&P340 AND a 442!

One on the belt and one in the pocket (at night) and just one of the j-frames during the day, or when carrying in places where I do not want the added weapon on my person.

(and I wanted to bump this thread up to the top...since I look at it and drool every day :embarassed:)

OP: If you are reading this.... how about some reviews, more pics, carry methods, etc...?
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Cooks128
12-24-2010, 08:38
I'm actually going to try to pick up a second J-Frame, either a 642 or 442...Vances in Columbus ohio has them on sale for 349.99 through the end of the year...plus the 50.00 S&W rebate....300.00 for a S&W is a steal. I know of a few guys (including my father) that carry two jframes.

tpr7304
12-24-2010, 11:44
Have you shot it yet? A range report would be great.

the perfesser
12-24-2010, 18:16
Cooks128,

$299 + tax for a 442/642 qualifies as Grand Theft where I live. Go buy it on the 27th, hear?

G27Chief
12-25-2010, 05:31
I'm actually going to try to pick up a second J-Frame, either a 642 or 442...Vances in Columbus ohio has them on sale for 349.99 through the end of the year...plus the 50.00 S&W rebate....300.00 for a S&W is a steal. I know of a few guys (including my father) that carry two jframes.

Dang that is cheap. I hate to see this when I think of what I paid for my 342 Ti!

jamaicanj
12-25-2010, 23:58
I'm actually going to try to pick up a second J-Frame, either a 642 or 442...Vances in Columbus ohio has them on sale for 349.99 through the end of the year...plus the 50.00 S&W rebate....300.00 for a S&W is a steal. I know of a few guys (including my father) that carry two jframes.

Do you have the contact info for Vance's?

Ganesh
12-26-2010, 17:42
I own an M&P 340 also. It replaced my G-27 also. Loved the little 27, and loved it at the range much more so than the little 340, hehe. But I wont give up my little "Sheila". thinkin about gettin her a sister tho. Was lookin at those Ruger LCR's, the little 38s are sweet, and im kinda glad i didnt try one before i bought the 340, cuz they really do have a nice trigger and shot really nice with em. But now they got em in .357! So I may have to pick one of those up as the back up to the 340, heh.

2740dmx
12-26-2010, 19:10
I own an M&P 340 also. It replaced my G-27 also. Loved the little 27, and loved it at the range much more so than the little 340, hehe. But I wont give up my little "Sheila". thinkin about gettin her a sister tho. Was lookin at those Ruger LCR's, the little 38s are sweet, and im kinda glad i didnt try one before i bought the 340, cuz they really do have a nice trigger and shot really nice with em. But now they got em in .357! So I may have to pick one of those up as the back up to the 340, heh.

How does the 340 carry compared to the G27?
I carry IWB with the 27, and would mostly carry a j-frame on belt, with occasional pocket carry.

I realize the G27 is easier to shoot, and my tactics and mindset will change accordingly.

Any info about holsters you use, loads you use, etc.. would be much appreciated.

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rsxr22
12-26-2010, 20:46
That is awesome, congrats

Cooks128
12-27-2010, 10:04
How does the 340 carry compared to the G27?
I carry IWB with the 27, and would mostly carry a j-frame on belt, with occasional pocket carry.

I realize the G27 is easier to shoot, and my tactics and mindset will change accordingly.

Any info about holsters you use, loads you use, etc.. would be much appreciated.

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The 340 and my G33 carry just about the same for IWB carry, where I believe the 340 has it's advantages is with pocket carry when Im wearing cargo shorts in the summer using a pocket holster or shoving shoving it in a jacket pocket for quick trips out of the house. My carry ammo of choice is Speer Gold dots in .357, that or carry Ranger T .38+P.

kgwld1
12-28-2010, 10:41
I have a 340 m&p that i have shot 2100 rounds of .357 through. I bought the gun to shoot .357 and thats what i do with it if you don't shoot .357 then save your money and go with the 642 or 442. Nice 340 by the way.

2740dmx
12-31-2010, 13:05
I have a 340 m&p that i have shot 2100 rounds of .357 through. I bought the gun to shoot .357 and thats what i do with it if you don't shoot .357 then save your money and go with the 642 or 442. Nice 340 by the way.

It is nice that the 340 is chambered for .357, but what I especially like is the finish (looks the same, but is more durable than the 442's finish) and especially the xs night sight!
So... even if you were "only" going to shoot .38+P in a 340.... for some, it is worth the extra cost!

I've gotta get one soon, so I can quit obsessing about it!

do you carry yours alot, and is the finish holding up well?

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2740dmx
11-10-2011, 16:32
Man....

I am wanting one of these no-lock 340 M&P so badly..

I am considering changing my carry weapon from a Glock 27 to an M&P340 AND a 442!

One on the belt and one in the pocket (at night) and just one of the j-frames during the day, or when carrying in places where I do not want the added weapon on my person.

(and I wanted to bump this thread up to the top...since I look at it and drool every day :embarassed:)

OP: If you are reading this.... how about some reviews, more pics, carry methods, etc...?
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I was just re-reading my post...and realized that I have been wanting a no lock 340 M&P for awhile...
And now I have one! :supergrin:
Just recieved mine a couple days ago..
no range report yet, due to wife having her appendix removed recently, but soon!
Full pics and report to follow soon, but for now: excellent fit and finish, and decent trigger pull (for a j-frame)
It might be a bear to shoot, with the lighweight frame, but for carry...this thing rules! why pocket carry a semi auto .380 when you can carry 5 shots of .357mag or .38+P?

fastbolt
11-10-2011, 17:50
I'd forgotten about this thread.

Since I last posted in it I picked up another M&P 340, this time the new variation without the ILS.

I still carry and use my original M&P 340 with the ILS, for both range and carry. It's just that I liked it enough to want another one, and decided the no-ILS difference was enough to justify ordering a second one.

Besides, I have a pair of 642-1's, as well. ;)

2740dmx
11-12-2011, 09:37
I'd forgotten about this thread.

Since I last posted in it I picked up another M&P 340, this time the new variation without the ILS.

I still carry and use my original M&P 340 with the ILS, for both range and carry. It's just that I liked it enough to want another one, and decided the no-ILS difference was enough to justify ordering a second one.

Besides, I have a pair of 642-1's, as well. ;)

Hey Fastbolt,
Yeah, I already knew that you picked up a NO LOCK 340...:cool:
I keep up with your writings, via this and at least one other forum (can't remember which...)
You are one of the primary reasons that I trusted that the 340 would be a worthy weapon...
Now my concealed carry is down to revolver only: a S&W 66 snub and the 340 M&P.
Now that it is cooler here in Vermont, I am usually carrying the 66 OWB (under an untucked shirt) and after giving it a range workout...will IWB and pocket carry the 340 (for social occasions when the large K-frame is too hard to conceal)

I need to hurry up and post some pics and range report....but it will happen in good time, so keep checking the snub sub-forum (gets lonely in here)

Thanks!

fastbolt
11-12-2011, 11:22
Hey Fastbolt,
Yeah, I already knew that you picked up a NO LOCK 340...:cool:
I keep up with your writings, via this and at least one other forum (can't remember which...)
You are one of the primary reasons that I trusted that the 340 would be a worthy weapon...
Now my concealed carry is down to revolver only: a S&W 66 snub and the 340 M&P.
Now that it is cooler here in Vermont, I am usually carrying the 66 OWB (under an untucked shirt) and after giving it a range workout...will IWB and pocket carry the 340 (for social occasions when the large K-frame is too hard to conceal)

I need to hurry up and post some pics and range report....but it will happen in good time, so keep checking the snub sub-forum (gets lonely in here)

Thanks!

Hey, de nada.

A 66 would be a nice alternative to the little 5-shot M&P when you can carry a larger revolver. I picked up a decent 66 2 1/2" some time ago. After having it inspected and cleaned up a bit, and a ball-detent yoke 'lock' installed, the first time I took it to the range I remembered why I enjoyed carrying and shooting the medium-framed Magnums so many years ago. I ran a mix of different bullet weights through it, running it from 3-75yds, and it did everything I expected of it. ;)

It made me wish I'd kept some of the short-barreled Security & Speed-Sixes I used to own back in my service revolver days. They were so easily found and bought that I got lazy and traded them off now & again, and then, of course, Ruger discontinued them and moved on to the GP series. :shocked:

At least I kept a Service-Six 4" HB that I once had tuned by one of the major shops. :)

2740dmx
11-13-2011, 10:58
Hey, de nada.

A 66 would be a nice alternative to the little 5-shot M&P when you can carry a larger revolver. I picked up a decent 66 2 1/2" some time ago. After having it inspected and cleaned up a bit, and a ball-detent yoke 'lock' installed, the first time I took it to the range I remembered why I enjoyed carrying and shooting the medium-framed Magnums so many years ago. I ran a mix of different bullet weights through it, running it from 3-75yds, and it did everything I expected of it. ;)

It made me wish I'd kept some of the short-barreled Security & Speed-Sixes I used to own back in my service revolver days. They were so easily found and bought that I got lazy and traded them off now & again, and then, of course, Ruger discontinued them and moved on to the GP series. :shocked:





At least I kept a Service-Six 4" HB that I once had tuned by one of the major shops. :)
I hear you on the Ruger Speed and Service Six models...
My very first hangun (wasn't even legal age...but good parents who "signed" for it..:whistling:) was a Speed Six snubbie.
I would take it in the back fields (had a natural earthen backstop) and practice with cheap .38 loads.
By the time I joined the Army (1984, at the tender age of 17), I had all the basics of trigger control, breathing, and stance down pat...not to mention a good ability to not flinch from recoil and muzzle blast.

Thanks again for all your valuable contributions to this forum..in the way of solid experience and advice.
Once my wife gets back on her feet...(appendix removed recently), I will post a full range report and pics of the 340 (and the 66)

fastbolt
11-17-2011, 14:00
Okay.

Best wishes for your wife's speedy recovery.

2740dmx
11-18-2011, 18:15
Okay.

Best wishes for your wife's speedy recovery.

Thanks.
She is feeling stronger by the day, and I just might pop off a few cylinders of .38 and .38+P this weekend.
not enough for a full work out, but just to give it a function check, and see about how it feels.

I have been carrying it in a Remora holster (just to get used to it...but cannot rely on it for protection...as I have not even fired it yet!), and truly feel that it is the most comfortable gun I have ever carried.
Looking for more good IWB holster ideas...

2740dmx
11-27-2011, 13:57
Finally got a chance to pop off a few cylinders of ammo through my new 340.

Not a range report by any means, but I did walk out into the woods and fire off enough rounds to verify that my 340 works, and get a feel for it's general accuracy and recoil.

I fired off: 158 gr .38 special: felt very "cute" and accuracy and time back on target was outstanding.

130gr .38+P Winchester PDX bonded: recoil was very manageable and time back on target was great. Firing a ton of these at the range would begin to hurt the hand after awhile...but for defensive purposes...this is very quick back on target for follow up shots.

135 gr .357 magnum Speer Gold Dot (short barrel): This round does produce a bit of hand slap, but I found it to be manageable when doing focused "defensive drills", and time back on target was fine (would improve with more practice). I was surprised at how well I handled the .357, as the internet chatter would have you believe that it would feel like "an aluminum baseball bat smacking your hand". :upeyes:

Granted...for extended range sessions..the .38 or .38+P is the way to go.
I probably will carry with Buffalo Bore .38+P LSWCHP in 158 gr.
(didn't fire any today, as the BB ammo I have is in my safe, but have had good results when shooting BB ammo in my Ruger SP and S&W 66 snub.)

Will give better range report and carry info after I actually get more experience with the 340.

For now...loving it. Never had an easier weapon to carry!

fastbolt
11-27-2011, 14:16
Good to hear.

While I have little problem running fast shot strings with doubles & triples using Magnum loads in my M&P 340, I did find that after shooting 50 odd rounds of Magnum loads that my hand did feel like it had been hammered by an aluminum bat, to some degree. :whistling: :rofl:

I've also noticed that the heavier the bullet weight, the more recoil force hits the web/palm of my hand (not surprising or unexpected, though).

2740dmx
11-27-2011, 18:22
Good to hear.

While I have little problem running fast shot strings with doubles & triples using Magnum loads in my M&P 340, I did find that after shooting 50 odd rounds of Magnum loads that my hand did feel like it had been hammered by an aluminum bat, to some degree. :whistling: :rofl:

I've also noticed that the heavier the bullet weight, the more recoil force hits the web/palm of my hand (not surprising or unexpected, though).

Yes Fastbolt,
I hear ya on the "after 50 odd rounds"..My hand used to be sore after a workout with my Ruger SP snub...and I must be cocky because I only fired a few cylinders full!
For carry, it will be .38+P :cool:

smokin762
11-27-2011, 18:31
Yes Fastbolt,
I hear ya on the "after 50 odd rounds"..My hand used to be sore after a workout with my Ruger SP snub...and I must be cocky because I only fired a few cylinders full!
For carry, it will be .38+P :cool:

Same here. I keep my 340 P.D. loaded with .38 Gold Dots. I tried the Full Load .357's in it after I bought it. I'll pass on them.:embarassed:

SDGlock23
01-20-2012, 21:39
I had a 360 M&P and it was definitely a handful when shooting warm .357's. I liked the u-notch rear sight better than the one on my new 442. I like the idea of having a night sight, but in all honesty, it's a close up "point and shoot" weapon and I have yet to really get on board with the front night sight only idea, probably because I'm so used to having a set in the rear in order to get true a sight picture. It was nice though and if I ever got another, it would be a 340 instead.

pitdog02
01-23-2012, 18:08
360ss

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2740dmx
01-23-2012, 22:21
Good to see this subforum get some action...
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bac1023
01-29-2012, 22:38
Looks nice

Congrats! :cool:

fowler
02-10-2012, 06:33
There good to shoot 38 target wadcutters out of. There hard to shoot with anything more powerfull . A 15oz. no lock 442 with full power 158lswc-hp is hard to shoot and its a tad more weight. You need at least 20-25 oz. of weight to shoot 357 mags out of to even think think of shooting repeat shots accurate. You trade off to much and loose.

2740dmx
06-09-2012, 20:38
Remember this thread!
Thanks to WhiteCoyote for originally inspiring me to get one!

Went shooting today: some .38, some .38+P, and some .357 magnum.

I like shooting .38+P the best, and can never decide on what to carry for self defense loads: Speer Gold Dot in 38 or .357?

I like the +Ps for easier ejecting of spent casings, although I would hate to have to reload a snubbie under pressure!

I love the 340, and carry in a Remora holster.
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.357sigger
07-26-2012, 18:18
Does anyone have info on where I can find one of these (M&P 340 with no internal lock)? I have looked everywhere and was wanting to use it as a back up gun. Any help in the right direction is appreciated!!! :wavey:

barth
07-28-2012, 22:37
Does anyone have info on where I can find one of these (M&P 340 with no internal lock)? I have looked everywhere and was wanting to use it as a back up gun. Any help in the right direction is appreciated!!! :wavey:

S&W 340PD 357 17/8 SCCEN NL Black $814
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/70714

You can get a 642 38 +P no lock for ~1/2 the price.
I can't imagine firing a 357 Mag from an AirWeight.
That's just brutal IMHO.

I've got an 11.1 oz 342 ti.
It's 13.5 oz with 38 +P Speer GDHP Short Barrel 135 gr rounds.
And kicks plenty hard with that.

MurrayNevada
07-26-2014, 16:00
I only shoot .357 in my 340M&P. I hate the cylinder rings that build up when shooting .38 Special. The Speer Gold Dot .357 135 gr. Short Barrel rounds give me only slightly more recoil than the .38+P ammo. Not at all unpleasant.