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Hokie1911
11-21-2010, 12:55
So my .40 thread and proceding "discussion" of .45 vs .40 and subsequent ammo price discussion got me thinking about practical scenarios like what would really save me money and afford me to shoot more.

My situation...I'm currently a stay at home dad (while rewarding, pays zero) for the past 1.5 years, so I don't have a lot of money to drop on ammo. Thus, I prefer to shoot 9mm, which allows me to shoot a little more when I do go. Current carry setup is a 9mm HK. I should have my Kobra Carry in a few months when I pay it off and will start carrying it. Plan on selling the HK for a 9mm Trojan, again...to afford more practice time with a 9mm.

Currently, I hit the range once a month and shoot 200 rounds for around $44 + range time. Once I get the Brown, I plan on switching to 100 rounds of .45 ($32) and 100 rounds of 9mm ($22) + range time, or maybe just 50 rounds of .45 to save a little money. Eventually, I would like to start reloading, to afford a higher round count for less and/or shooting a few times a month.

So what's your routine for practice? How often and what do you shoot?

lawdog734
11-21-2010, 13:18
I go to an outdoor range and try to do a lot of moving and shooting. I vary what I take but the sig 229 is always one of them since it's my duty gun.

rsxr22
11-21-2010, 13:18
Shooting time varies from month to month. I shoot a lot more during the competition season and shoot 9mm and .45. I got away from .40. My favorite gun to shoot is by far my Spartan 9mm. Virtually no felt recoil! I shoot a lot with my students in my CCW and Advanced classes, i would probably say i shoot about 500 rounds of 9mm a month and a little less in $45. Definitely get setup reloading! I just loaded 1000 rounds of lead .45 through or shop for $92! You could almost double that price as far as jacketed goes, but lead doesnt bother me. I do use the moly coated bullets in competiton though so i dont get smoke clouds LOL

TKR Reptiles
11-21-2010, 15:31
I usually go every weekend and a lot of times once during the week too... Shoot about 200 to 300 .45 rounds per visit, and if my friend comes with all his 9mm's I shoot 100 or so round through them each visit...

samuse
11-21-2010, 15:36
The best thing to do is go shoot an IDPA match.

You'll have way more fun, learn more and probably shoot less ammo than just plinking at the range by yourself.

All you need is a belt, holster and a couple or three mag holders, preferably 5+ mags. Most matches are 100 rounds or so.

I'd rather shoot a match every month or two than just go to the range every weekend.

Hokie1911
11-21-2010, 15:38
I usually go every weekend and a lot of times once during the week too... Shoot about 200 to 300 .45 rounds per visit, and if my friend comes with all his 9mm's I shoot 100 or so round through them each visit...

You must have one of these. :supergrin:

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GJ1981
11-21-2010, 15:42
I was going weekly with 100 rounds but haven't had time lately.

I'm shooting my Glock 19 lately since I've gone back to it for CCW.

Indoor range - I practice accuracy, since it's so strict on what we can do. I like dot torture the most here.

Outdoor range - My buddy has a bunch of land so we can set things up however we want. I like drawing from concealment and shooting on the move, anything realistic.

Sometimes I only load one round in a magazine to work on reloading and reacquiring the target as quick as possible. Makes 100 rounds last.

TKR Reptiles
11-21-2010, 15:44
lol... No I wish... I own a few business' and do ok for myself tho. Plus I was blessed with a really understanding wife that loves being a home maker... So she holds the fort down a lot while I am off shooting guns or playing golf.. LOL...

TKR Reptiles
11-21-2010, 15:46
I was going weekly with 100 rounds but haven't had time lately.

I'm shooting my Glock 19 lately since I've gone back to it for CCW.

Indoor range - I practice accuracy, since it's so strict on what we can do. I like dot torture the most here.

Outdoor range - My buddy has a bunch of land so we can set things up however we want. I like drawing from concealment and shooting on the move, anything realistic.

Sometimes I only load one round in a magazine to work on reloading and reacquiring the target as quick as possible. Makes 100 rounds last.

That is definitely a good way to make 100 rounds last a long time...

dnuggett
11-21-2010, 16:35
I go once a week. 100 to 150 rds of .40 and 100 to 150 rds of 9mm. When I switch my carry from the Sig 229 to a commander variant in .45 I'll start looking at reloading.

KillStick
11-21-2010, 17:00
I probably go about 10 times a month and very most from 100 to 500 rds each session. Mostly 9mm and .40 cal. I rarely shoot 45 anymore but have future plans to change that. I go to one range, operated by DNR so it is a strict shooting range and don't get to do too much movement shooting.

MD357
11-21-2010, 17:10
The best thing to do is go shoot an IDPA match.

You'll have way more fun, learn more and probably shoot less ammo than just plinking at the range by yourself.

All you need is a belt, holster and a couple or three mag holders, preferably 5+ mags. Most matches are 100 rounds or so.

I'd rather shoot a match every month or two than just go to the range every weekend.

This. If you want to save money AND learn to shoot.... shot IDPA. Gear startup will hurt a little but like Sam said, you'll only shoot ~100 a match.

ctfireman
11-21-2010, 18:15
Not much rhyme or reason for me, just kinda shoot whatever has been neglected lately or what i feel like shooting. Also depends on where i'm going bc some places allow guns that others don't. I generally shoot 200-400 rounds per trip once a week. With an occasional afternoon at a friends private property which takes 1000 rounds easy.

G21FAN
11-21-2010, 18:29
My routine is:

Load, shoot, cuss.... reload, shoot, cuss..... reload, shoot, cuss....And so on... :embarassed::embarassed:

rsxr22
11-21-2010, 18:46
Where are you at in NE OH Paul? Theres matches almost once a week around my neck of the woods. I used to shoot a lot of IDPA, but lately have been traveling into PA to shoot IPSC which i dont think would be a good look for you because round counts are HIGH

Quack
11-21-2010, 18:53
Where are you at in NE OH Paul? Theres matches almost once a week around my neck of the woods. I used to shoot a lot of IDPA, but lately have been traveling into PA to shoot IPSC which i dont think would be a good look for you because round counts are HIGH

he's on the west side of cleveland, probably 35min from me.

powder86
11-21-2010, 19:00
my range schedule has changed since i got laid off. i'm a student too. so double wammy... i'm broke! my wife works as a teacher. we got a baby on the way too... man oh man... anyway, we used to go atleast once a month, fire 200 rounds of 9mm, a dozen .308, 50 bird shot shells, and infinite .22... now we go once every 3 months or so... fire 50 9mm, and loads of .22.

i was shooting 3 inch groupings at 10 yards... now, i'm just trying to stay in the circle. i've only been a gun owner for a year, so all my early regular practice has now been swallowed up by how little i get to shoot. my trigger flinch has returned... drives me NUTS!

rsxr22
11-21-2010, 19:12
he's on the west side of cleveland, probably 35min from me.

Are there any shooting sports up by you? A lot of people ive talked in/around the CLE area dont know of anywhere outdoors to shoot.

BlayGlock
11-21-2010, 19:33
I usually shoot 150-200 rounds a week either .45 or 9mm but always with a 1911. If I want to shoot my G19 I bring extra rounds. Go to www.pistol-training.com (http://www.pistol-training.com) and look at his drills. Also I have seen some good improvement with dry fire practice at the house. Most big name competition shooters do A LOT of dry fire practice before ever hitting the range.

I try and shoot IDPA when I can make it to a match. You will learn a lot by watching the top shooters in your squad. I also have a couple DVDs I watch and try to practice as well. IDPA is some of the most fun Ive had with my clothes on.

If you ever get your balls back from your wife maybe think about investing in a reloading set-up. I reload .45 for around $15 per hundred and 9mm is probably around $6-7 per hundred.

carguy2244
11-21-2010, 19:52
We train twice weekly, about 400 9mm rounds each of us each session, and 50 rounds 10mm.
Always Glocks.
We roll our own, so it costs about 800/mo for the 2 of us. Luckily we get all the fresh brass we need at the range.

carguy2244
11-21-2010, 19:54
I usually shoot 150-200 rounds a week either .45 or 9mm but always with a 1911. If I want to shoot my G19 I bring extra rounds. Go to www.pistol-training.com (http://www.pistol-training.com) and look at his drills. Also I have seen some good improvement with dry fire practice at the house. Most big name competition shooters do A LOT of dry fire practice before ever hitting the range.

I try and shoot IDPA when I can make it to a match. You will learn a lot by watching the top shooters in your squad. I also have a couple DVDs I watch and try to practice as well. IDPA is some of the most fun Ive had with my clothes on.

If you ever get your balls back from your wife maybe think about investing in a reloading set-up. I reload .45 for around $15 per hundred and 9mm is probably around $6-7 per hundred.


Do you cast your own lead?

Hokie1911
11-21-2010, 19:55
If you ever get your balls back from your wife maybe think about investing in a reloading set-up. I reload .45 for around $15 per hundred and 9mm is probably around $6-7 per hundred.

:rofl:

Not likely. I believe she had them bronzed and shows them off like a trophy to her PTA friends.

I definitely plan on getting a Dillon setup in the near future. :thumbsup:

den888
11-21-2010, 20:00
I usually bring 2-3 pistols and 150 rounds of ammo. Shoot for 1.5-2 hours and then head home to strip, clean and lube the pistols.

lawdog734
11-21-2010, 20:23
Are there any shooting sports up by you? A lot of people ive talked in/around the CLE area dont know of anywhere outdoors to shoot.
I belong to a range in Sandusky. They have an "action match" once a month. The also do skeet shooting.

Quack
11-21-2010, 20:26
Are there any shooting sports up by you? A lot of people ive talked in/around the CLE area dont know of anywhere outdoors to shoot.

not so much in the Cleveland area. i know that there is one in Canton and one closer to Ashtabula. Stonewall has an IDPA style shoot during the week.

the only place outdoors that is open to the public is A&A, which is a dump because people bring junk to shoot.
The longest range there is 300yrds.

there is also the ODNR range at Grand River, but i just use that to sight in rifles on the 100yrd range.
you have to shoot at full distances there 25, 50 and 100yrds.

BlayGlock
11-21-2010, 20:32
No I do not cast, I buy from www.missouribullet.com (http://www.missouribullet.com) Also Paul I have a Dillon SDB that I am pretty pleased with. I started out with and still use a Lee Anniversary single stage press. I got set-up with that Lee everything I needed to reload including my first set of components for like $250.

Quack
11-21-2010, 20:36
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rsxr22
11-21-2010, 20:37
not so much in the Cleveland area. i know that there is one in Canton and one closer to Ashtabula. Stonewall has an IDPA style shoot during the week.

the only place outdoors that is open to the public is A&A, which is a dump because people bring junk to shoot.
The longest range there is 300yrds.

there is also the ODNR range at Grand River, but i just use that to sight in rifles on the 100yrd range.
you have to shoot at full distances there 25, 50 and 100yrds.

That doesnt sound very good!! Actually the first time I think Im glad I live around here LOL

NAS T MAG
11-21-2010, 20:46
I take all of my pistols in the same caliber. That way it is easier to clean them when I get home. This coming Saturday will be the 4 .380's with 300 rounds.

Sometimes the 9's, 22LR, or .38/.357's, but never a mix of calibers.

Elsilrac1
11-21-2010, 20:51
I go every weekend, or mostly every weekend. I start out with .22 to warm up, so alot of range time is spent practicing with 2 ~ 3 cents a round. I then normally shoot a box of 9mm with one of my 9mm 1911s and then maybe 1/2 box of .45 with one of my .45 1911s.

Hokie1911
11-21-2010, 20:52
No I do not cast, I buy from www.missouribullet.com (http://www.missouribullet.com) Also Paul I have a Dillon SDB that I am pretty pleased with. I started out with and still use a Lee Anniversary single stage press. I got set-up with that Lee everything I needed to reload including my first set of components for like $250.

https://kempfgunshop.com//index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=630&category_id=190&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=41&vmcchk=1&Itemid=41

Thanks guys. I will look into getting set up with that next summer.

BrazosCoTX
11-21-2010, 21:29
I put at least 50 rounds through my EDC gun (currently an STI Escort in .45 ACP), and then another 50-100 through another one (# 2 gun right now is a G19, as I am getting ready for an upcoming GSSF match).

Shoot the handguns once or twice per month, and try to get the AR and the HD shotgun out at least once every six months. We have a good indoor range in our town -- outdoor ranges, not so good.

Don't have any safe queens, but some get shot more than others. And, if I'm lazy and don't want to spend all day cleaning guns, I may only shoot one gun (100-150 rds).

Semper Fidelis

Morgo
11-22-2010, 01:55
I usually get to the range 2 or 3 times a week and will go through +500 rounds a week.
Mostly .38 Super through an 1911/2011 and 9mm through either a HK, CZ, Glock, Beretta etc.
Will also do .38 Special or .357 Sig/Magnum every few weeks as well.

matt c
11-23-2010, 09:21
Once every couple of weeks or so. Maybe 50-100 rounds. I see no need to shoot more.

cole
11-23-2010, 16:05
3-5x month
Usually, 2 guns (one in 9mm, the other in .45acp)
150-300 rounds each visit
9mm = ~2/3
.45acp = ~1/3

I reload 9mm and .45acp. Still, I just picked up an AA conversion for my G17 to save a bit more. Works excellent. So, I suspect:
~1/4-1/2 = .22lr
~1/4-1/2 = 9mm
~1/4-1/2 = .45acp
Just picked up 6600rds of Rem Gold .22lr. Figure, I'll have the AA paid off in ~2500rds (about 3-4 months).

FM12
11-23-2010, 21:43
Go to range, shoot poorly with all weapons taken, curse self for not shooting enough. Simple and effective.

Blaster
11-24-2010, 21:03
So what's your routine for practice? How often and what do you shoot?

I hope your realize that you can practice without ammo. Dry firing done correctly is excellent practice. Weapon presentation can be incorporated into your dry practice too. At the range you can verify your dry technique.

dnuggett
11-24-2010, 21:36
I hope your realize that you can practice without ammo. Dry firing done correctly is excellent practice. Weapon presentation can be incorporated into your dry practice too. At the range you can verify your dry technique.

:goodpost:

Hokie1911
11-25-2010, 06:59
I hope your realize that you can practice without ammo. Dry firing done correctly is excellent practice. Weapon presentation can be incorporated into your dry practice too. At the range you can verify your dry technique.

I do that a lot too. :thumbsup:

G36_Me
11-25-2010, 07:43
My range routine starts at home. I go several times per week and really enjoy it. The kids are grown and the wife is happy to have me go, get out of her hair and relax. Its a great break from work and adds balance in the life.

First, I determine the mood I'm in (at home). Am I bored? Motivated? Tired? Full of Energy? Depending on the answer I'll choose the gun(s) and ammo I want to shoot.

Additionally, I have a long range plan that I'm always working towards or thinking about. I always take the shooting stuff I need for that plan, just in case, by the time I get to the range, I want to work on that.

Long term goals, they are yours, not someone else's (screw 'em). Mine are: enjoy shooting, try to get a little better each time, be an ambassador for the shooting sports. When younger, I was a hard core competitor which I cannot be any longer. The eyes are gone, the grip strength is just not their. I still compete with my self and my skills and my level of ability, but I don't compare myself to others or strive to be better than others, like I used to. I'm not condemning that, it's valid, I just am older and cannot compete with the kids. What's more, I'm OK with that.

Long term goals for me right now: do well in GSSF indoor competition. do better in 2011 than I did in 2010 and 2009. I really like the GSSF indoor competition, not so demanding a person like me cannot do well, but hard enough to test a set of skills. It's also a nice balance of accuracy and speed. It also rewards consistency, which I have, if no longer drive nail accuracy.

Long term goal: shoot faster with accuracy. That's really still foreign to me. The type of shooting I did before retiring really was for accuracy, max trigger control, etc etc. This concept of blasting away, double tapping; thus having larger groups is just not part of my DNA, but I want it to be. Shooting falling plates, steel is really fun, but I'm too slow, so am working on getting faster.

So, from home, my always packed bag has everything in it except ammo and gun. Select the guns (min 2) and select ammo. Ammo is all reloads, so its usually a combo of older reloads to rotate the inventory and newer reloads to 'test'. Then I replenish my target 'roll'. (I buy all my targets online in qty, cannot afford to buy at the range.)

Note: my out-of-pocket expense at the range is $0.00. My reloading expense is already incurred, as are targets. I bought an annual membership that gives me unlimited access.

Drive to the indoor range, ask for the lane I'm in the mood for based upon whos at the range and what I want to get done. If I'm really in the mood to work hard, I want to be in the middle of the a lot of action and disruption. For me, the harder it is to concentrate with disruption around tests my concentration ability more. If I'm just there to have fun, relax and spend some time by myself, I like to be away from the hussle.

At the line: always lay out my bullets, my gun. depending on the gun, make sure it is oiled. do a safety check on gun.
I then follow one of two 'warm-up routines'.
One: (this is most often) I dry fire a few shoots to 'break in the grip', get the eyes thinking about sights, reacquaint myself with the trigger, put the gun down and relax. I'll repeat this 2 to 5 times until I'm happy with feel of grip, sight picture and my attitude.
Two: quick safety check and blast away a mag or two of rounds. I do this to simulate 'shooting cold'. I usually do this when I'm purging my carry ammo cause its been in re-mag'd too many times or its @ 30 days old in the mag. My mindset is self-defense and personal protection. There are no goals for this shooting excercise other than: kill or be killed.

Now that I'm broken in, I 90% of the time rollout my tomb stone target and practice. This is so much fun for me, I feel like a total nerd. I play games here to 1) work what I feel is needed (improve) and 2) to check if something that was working is no longer (maintain).

For example: the distance is 12, 25, 50, 75, 25, 50 feet. (the way we shoot it here; I understand DannyR says this varies at different GSSF shoots).
Option 1) shot one shot at each distance, respectively. The goal here is max accuracy, not speed. It tests many aspects of the GSSF shoot. (won't go into all of them now). I should be able to call my shots. Any shot not called is judged a bad shoot. Any shoot called and also bad, is called a bad shoot. A called good shot is a good shot. (calling your shot was key in my previous life, so I still do it).
Option 2) same as one, but shoot 2 shots at each distance
Option 3) same as two, but with 3 shots
Notice: right now I'm pretty engaged, having a blast, assessing my shooting and I've fired practically no ammo. (I can shoot as much ammo as I want, its not the money, that's just not what I go to the range for. Depending on my range trip, it can be anywhere between 30 and 150 rounds. The harder I work, the less ammo I shoot. I only tend to shoot a bunch of ammo when I'm building to a competition or having a blow off fun time.)

Now that I've finished my 1) improve and 2) maintain activities, I put some other type of target up and shoot for fun.

Wrapping up:
I pick up all the brass I can scrounge. I use two plastic grocery type bags. One is used to hold the brass, the other is used to 'pick up' the brass, kind of like a glove. This stuff is dirty. Then I use the 'glove' bag to double sack the brass. Gets the brass home safe and single bagging breaks 20% of the time.
Next, always a bit embarrassing: check the garbage cans. I'm always looking for discarded boxes to hold my reloads. Why spend money on the plastic ones? I have enough now that I'm only looking for specific types, based upon the inner bullet holder.

Now I do the double check of the line and my surrounding to make sure I haven't set anything aside or might forget.

Go the restroom, wash hands. go home. (there is lots more, but this is a pretty typical day at the range, maybe 3 out of 5 trips)

Kegs
11-25-2010, 08:38
Routines are for the weak ,the meek, and the sheep.

I own my own range and shoot what, how and when I want.

City dwellers can make it to public land, buy a small game license and set up a safe target in accordance with rules and policies of the land management agencies.

That being said, I do not shoot during deer hunting season out of respect for my neighbors. I recommend that practice.

Tips for defensive range time:

Always practice drawing.
Always keep all eyes open (including the ones in the back of your head).
Always move while shooting.
Instinctive shooting is faster than using sights - so forget 'em for cqb.
Perfect practice makes a perfect shooter - ALWAYS strive for perfection.
7 yards training is only good at 7 yards - vary your distances.
5 shot groups are only a sample of a sample.
Use sights and instinct for precision shots (anything less than 8 MOA w/handgun).
There is never enough ammo at the range, so bring more.
Paintball/airsoft/simunitions = good defensive training.

Have fun, stay safe.

TKR Reptiles
11-25-2010, 18:41
Routines are for the weak ,the meek, and the sheep.

Always practice drawing.
Always keep all eyes open (including the ones in the back of your head).
Always move while shooting.


Sounds pretty routine to me if you ALWAYS do something...

Good to know who the weak, meek, sheep are...

Hogpauls
11-26-2010, 15:08
Hokie, I feel your pain. The Dr. and Wifey Poo said, "no more work for you". This was about 4 years ago and to those who think that being a stay at home Dad is a picnic or early retirement I've got some news for them.

Anyways my beautiful wife gave me a Rock Chucker for X-Mas last year. Now I can shoot about once a week. I'll shoot around 100 .45, 50 or so .40 and 70 10mm.

ShakyDave
11-26-2010, 16:14
My range schedule is that on Monday, Wed. and Saturday I shoot 300 rounds of .45 in the following sequence: 50 warmup rounds of slow fire at 25 feet, gradually increasing in speed. 100 rounds against the shot timer working on muzzle on table to first shot, using a standard silhouette target. 100 rounds from 5-round magazines against a five-bullseye target working on acquisition. Then I switch targets and distance, and finish with 50 rounds at 25 yards on a 5-inch black target stuck to a white sheet of paper.

When I need a break in the routine I will switch up to my 9mm CZ Technical Sport and go burn ammo as fast as I can shoot it, pretty much. I can shoot the CZ daily, 200-300 rounds per session but I don't do that with my .45 because of potential nerve damage in the hand, and I also use a padded shooting glove.

I always start with some precision shooting, and finish with some precision shooting.

If I take a second gun with me, I always shoot the other gun first (e.g. Colt National Match or Kimber), then go to the Les Baer, because the trigger on the Baer is so much lighter and sharper than any of my other blasters.

Once in a blue moon I just pack my Ruger .22 and a brick of ammo, and bop till I drop.

joerenew
11-26-2010, 16:54
I spend my time doing ball and dummy drill variants, such as timed ball and dummy mixed in with command ball
And dummy. If you snatch the trigger on an empty chamber dry fire 5-10 times to correct the mistake, and then try again. You can do this with a friend or preload your magazines with snap caps in random spots

Hokie1911
11-26-2010, 19:23
Hokie, I feel your pain. The Dr. and Wifey Poo said, "no more work for you". This was about 4 years ago and to those who think that being a stay at home Dad is a picnic or early retirement I've got some news for them.

Anyways my beautiful wife gave me a Rock Chucker for X-Mas last year. Now I can shoot about once a week. I'll shoot around 100 .45, 50 or so .40 and 70 10mm.

Yeah, no kidding. Dealing with my 2 and 4 year olds all day is WAY more strenuous than any 8-5 job I've had. :rofl:

Boxerglocker
11-26-2010, 21:43
I dryfire 15 minutes a day 3-4 times a week.

Range sessions one a week, twice if no matches. 200-300 rounds of 9mm each. I bring the Kimber every other session and shoot 150-200 rounds of .45 ACP
At the range I work on basic drills, shooting on the move and from holster/concealment.

Hookie you need to reload, if you want to get the most bang for your buck. Yes it's a significant initial investment. However after bulk buys of for your first 4K in components. You'll be shooting at half the cheapest 9mm target you cna find and it will be better ammo.

I reload 1000 of 124 FMJ for $107 a thousand, .45 moly coated lead 200g round nose for about the same.

Hokie1911
11-27-2010, 06:29
Hookie you need to reload, if you want to get the most bang for your buck. Yes it's a significant initial investment. However after bulk buys of for your first 4K in components. You'll be shooting at half the cheapest 9mm target you cna find and it will be better ammo.

I reload 1000 of 124 FMJ for $107 a thousand, .45 moly coated lead 200g round nose for about the same.

Definitely think I will be going this route. :thumbsup: