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gomerpyle
11-29-2010, 13:39
This probably comes up regularly, but I have to ask.

Well like the title says I'm in need of a 1911. Had to sell the majority of my firearms when the economy went down the drain, now I'm fortunately rebuilding my collection. Bought some glocks, a sig, now I'm in need for a 1911. I've had a few cheaper 1911's in the past, to me one of the most pleasurable pistols to shoot. Never had experience with anything over $1,000. I'm not looking for a carry piece, looking for more of a high end 1911. The last few nights I've done countless reading and really having a hard time coming to a conclusion on what to order. My local stores have a weak selection, mostly just the typical Kimber's and Springfields. Since recently seeing some of the amazing collections you guys have (Bac) I figured I'd ask what you would recommend for a 1st time high end 1911 buy. I'm not partial to any of them as long as it doesn't have a rail. Help me spend my long time gathered 1911 gun fund :supergrin:!

GVFlyer
11-29-2010, 13:44
How much do you want to spend?

Hokie1911
11-29-2010, 13:48
You mention "high end" a number of times. You need to define what "high end" means and what your budget is. "High end" 1911s can hit $5-10k in a blink.

Need to know size preference, usage, and budget.

gomerpyle
11-29-2010, 13:54
Sorry should of specified more. I'd be willing to spend +/- $4,000. Looking for a 5" for primarily range duty, occasional carry maybe.

Quack
11-29-2010, 13:57
you can have a gun built by SVI
http://www.sviguns.com/2001.php

for a little more than 1/2 your budget, you can get a gun built by the Springfield Custom Shop...

polizei1
11-29-2010, 14:01
Also you need to realize if you want a semi custom or a custom, as the price and wait time will be vastly different.

Hokie1911
11-29-2010, 14:04
How much was that Tactical Supergrade that Wilson built for Vickers? That thing was sick.

polizei1
11-29-2010, 14:06
How much was that Tactical Supergrade that Wilson built for Vickers? That thing was sick.

Website says base price is $4,350, but I'm sure there was extra stuff done.

Quack
11-29-2010, 14:06
How much was that Tactical Supergrade that Wilson built for Vickers? That thing was sick.

base price is ~$4350

20South
11-29-2010, 14:24
base price is ~$4350

Not a 1911 expert by any stretch, but if Vickers chose that Supergrade, then I think you about have to seriously consider starting there.

Tactical black
11-29-2010, 14:26
With a $4000.00 budget you have a lot of options. I would make a list of features and details you want and go from there.

Quack
11-29-2010, 14:33
Not a 1911 expert by any stretch, but if Vickers chose that Supergrade, then I think you about have to seriously consider starting there.

Larry had to go with a Wilson, because the built time to get a gun from Vickers was too long :rofl:

Hokie1911
11-29-2010, 14:35
Not a 1911 expert by any stretch, but if Vickers chose that Supergrade, then I think you about have to seriously consider starting there.

http://www.wilsoncombat.com/p_tactical_supergrade.htm
http://blog.wilsoncombat.com/calibers/45-acp/larry-vickers-1911/

Yeah, hard to argue with this guy...
http://blog.wilsoncombat.com/wp-content/uploads/vickers-tac-supergrade.jpg

Quack
11-29-2010, 14:37
http://www.wilsoncombat.com/p_tactical_supergrade.htm
http://blog.wilsoncombat.com/calibers/45-acp/larry-vickers-1911/

Yeah, hard to argue with this guy...
http://blog.wilsoncombat.com/wp-content/uploads/vickers-tac-supergrade.jpg

he's just angry because they "Fusioned" him. he asked for no FCS or rollmarks but the gun came with FCS and rollmarks. as you can see he's pointing to the mistakes :animlol:

Hokie1911
11-29-2010, 14:39
he's just angry because they "Fusioned" him. he asked for no FCS or rollmarks but the gun came with FCS and rollmarks. as you can see he's pointing to the mistakes :animlol:

:rofl:

chrisman17
11-29-2010, 15:02
Also you need to realize if you want a semi custom or a custom, as the price and wait time will be vastly different.

This!

Do you want Custom or Semi Custom?

Semi Custom, you can't go wrong with Wilson, Brown, NHC(to an extent), Baer, and SA Custom.

I have at least one of each of the above, and it's really like choosing between a Mercedes and a BMW.

BTW... You're bank account is going to hate you now that you're venturing into the world of 1911s....

bac1023
11-29-2010, 17:08
Larry had to go with a Wilson, because the built time to get a gun from Vickers was too long :rofl:

:rofl:

gomerpyle
11-29-2010, 17:22
Thanks for the advice guys. I knew it was a good idea to post here. I think for this purchase I'll stick with semi-custom. Maybe on the next round I'll look more into a full custom piece. I really like what Wilson & Ed Brown have to offer, I just wish I could fondle 1 before the purchase. Keep the advice coming!

Chrisman17, I hear you on the bank account. Fortunately I know what addictions do to bank funds, I design performance parts and build hot rods for a living. I had to choose between cars and my guns due to the automotive downfall. Thankfully things have turned around, this purchase is kind of my celebration of that :supergrin:.

Quack
11-29-2010, 17:23
so what type a features/parts do you want on your gun?

bac1023
11-29-2010, 17:24
I'm going to agree with Quack on this. Go with an Infinity. They will build you whatever you want, as they're a full house custom builder. Everything will be done to your exact specs. Brandon Strayer is a great guy to talk shop with and he will personally ensure your gun is everything you want it to be. They're a no-nonsense company and certainly experts in their trade.

This build cost me just under $4000 a couple years back. Today, you're probably looking at $4500-$5000. That said, if you opt for a different barrel and finish, you could probably stay under $4000. This may be the best shooting 1911 I own and I absolutely love everything about it.


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/000_2408.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/006-7.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/000_2426-1.jpg









Now, I'm not going to recommend a Wilson Super Grade, as some others did. Its, no doubt, a very fine 1911. However, I don't think anything out of the semi-custom shops is worth $4000 or more. I bought mine in like new shape for about $3000. Its great, but for the money of a new model, give me a full custom gun like an Infinity.


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/004-12.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/000_1733.jpg

Quack
11-29-2010, 17:31
I still need an Infinity, just need to make more deposits into the "bank" :animlol:

gomerpyle
11-29-2010, 17:34
Looking for more of the traditional 1911 look, nothing tactical or race gun. Quality fit/finish, nothing that takes 100lbs of force to rack, but a snug fit. Smooth, crisp trigger. Probably a duo-tone blued slide/stainless frame. Ambi-safety (girlfriend is a lefty). Thinking about a flared mag-well. Bushing barrel, don't want a cone bull barrel. Ummmm....that's about all that comes to the top of my mind at the moment.

Quack
11-29-2010, 17:37
traditional as in "GI" style? fixed or adjustable sights? front cocking serrations?

Quack
11-29-2010, 17:42
http://edbrown.com/images/handguns/classic-sb.jpg

http://www.wilsoncombat.com/handguns/classic/large/01.jpg

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1004738330_kNBze-L-2.jpg

gomerpyle
11-29-2010, 17:55
Exactly the pictures I was trying to post...I was trying to get my photobucket to work. I'm not looking for a G.I. traditional style, which is what my post would imply to you seasoned 1911 guys, sorry. The Ed Brown Classic Custom is GORGEOUS! I'm on SVI's sight now using the gunbuilder. Soo many choices.

thecableguy
11-29-2010, 17:57
I'm going to agree with Quack on this. Go with an Infinity. They will build you whatever you want, as they're a full house custom builder.

So does FUSION



















:tongueout::rofl::rofl:

Quack
11-29-2010, 17:58
:animlol:

i was trying to be nice and not go there :rofl:

Hokie1911
11-29-2010, 18:02
The "usual suspects" strike again. :rofl:

Quack
11-29-2010, 18:03
Exactly the pictures I was trying to post...I was trying to get my photobucket to work. I'm not looking for a G.I. traditional style, which is what my post would imply to you seasoned 1911 guys, sorry. The Ed Brown Classic Custom is GORGEOUS! I'm on SVI's sight now using the gunbuilder. Soo many choices.

you can get it blued or GenIII coated and make some changes to the Brown. I think the build time Brown quotes is 90days.

http://www.edbrown.com/adobe.pdf/2010-Handgun.pdf

Hokie1911
11-29-2010, 18:05
you can get it blued or GenIII coated and make some changes to the Brown. I think the build time Brown quotes is 90days.

http://www.edbrown.com/adobe.pdf/2010-Handgun.pdf

Mine was a little less than 90. :thumbsup:

Quack
11-29-2010, 18:07
you can get it blued or GenIII coated and make some changes to the Brown. I think the build time Brown quotes is 90days.

http://www.edbrown.com/adobe.pdf/2010-Handgun.pdf

i didn't say that it takes 90days.

Hokie1911
11-29-2010, 18:10
i didn't say that it takes 90days.

I realize that...was merely pointing out that it is in fact less than their quoted time. So you can't untwist your panties now. :tongueout:

Quack
11-29-2010, 18:11
i don't wear panties. it's tacticool to go Commando

Hokie1911
11-29-2010, 18:16
i don't wear panties. it's tacticool to go Commando

Except when making cheesecake and you go buck wild naked? :rofl:

Quack
11-29-2010, 18:23
i need something to mix the batter.

thecableguy
11-29-2010, 18:26
i need something to mix the batter.

:rofl::rofl:
you two guys act like blood brothers. :tongueout:

bac1023
11-29-2010, 18:51
Exactly the pictures I was trying to post...I was trying to get my photobucket to work. I'm not looking for a G.I. traditional style, which is what my post would imply to you seasoned 1911 guys, sorry. The Ed Brown Classic Custom is GORGEOUS! I'm on SVI's sight now using the gunbuilder. Soo many choices.

Yep.

A person could go crazy looking at Infinity's Gunbuilder. Have fun! :supergrin:






As for the Classic Custom, its Ed Brown's top model. :cool:


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/000_1694.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/002-15.jpg

bac1023
11-29-2010, 18:53
So does FUSION


:tongueout::rofl::rofl:

:rofl:


I'm trying to remember who stated on here that Fusion was the most customizable builder on the market.

I told him to look at Infinity's website and then let me know how Fusion measured up. ;)

bac1023
11-29-2010, 18:54
I still need an Infinity, just need to make more deposits into the "bank" :animlol:

Yes you do, Quack.

I think you may even like it better than your Springfield Custom guns. :)

bac1023
11-29-2010, 18:54
The "usual suspects" strike again. :rofl:

:rofl:

bac1023
11-29-2010, 18:55
i don't wear panties. it's tacticool to go Commando

:rofl::rofl:

thecableguy
11-29-2010, 18:56
The "usual suspects" strike again. :rofl:

Let's just keep this thread hidden from TexasBulldog. :supergrin:

polizei1
11-29-2010, 18:57
I'm still waiting for the guy to come in here and recommend the Taurus...he's kind of late, this is 2-pages deep already. :whistling:

bac1023
11-29-2010, 18:59
I'm still waiting for the guy to come in here and recommend the Taurus...he's kind of late, this is 2-pages deep already. :whistling:

That's because nobody bashed the Taurus yet. :tongueout:














...that PT is a real POS. :whistling:







:rofl:

Hokie1911
11-29-2010, 19:00
Let's just keep this thread hidden from TexasBulldog. :supergrin:

:laughabove:

polizei1
11-29-2010, 19:01
Uh oh Hokie, now you did it!!!! :rofl:

Quack
11-29-2010, 19:02
too late, i already PM'd him the link to the thread :whistling:

bac1023
11-29-2010, 19:04
too late, i already PM'd him the link to the thread :whistling:

:rofl:

thecableguy
11-29-2010, 19:07
too late, i already PM'd him the link to the thread :whistling:

http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2009/7/8/saupload_nuclear_bomb_badger350.jpg

20South
11-29-2010, 19:12
Larry had to go with a Wilson, because the built time to get a gun from Vickers was too long :rofl:

:rofl::rofl::rofl: Hillarious

gomerpyle
11-30-2010, 06:58
Well I submitted a build to SVI after building probably 5 different pistols. We'll see what they say, if it's a lil' more than I'm looking to afford I'll be ordering an Ed Brown Classic Custom. Thanks again

Quack
11-30-2010, 06:59
Cool.

Tactical black
11-30-2010, 11:55
Very cool I would love to see the specs on the build you submitted. :cool:

gomerpyle
11-30-2010, 12:14
Quantity: 1
Front Slide Cut: None
Guide Rod: Stainless Steel
Panel Cut: No
Radial Flute: None
Rear Lightening: No
Rear Slide Cut: Xcelerator Serrations
Slide Material: Stainless Steel
Slide Profile: Round Top
Slide Racker / Lightening: No
Stirrup Cut: Yes
Top Rib: No Serrations
Front Sight: Green Tritium dot, .110 wide
Rear Sight: Novak� fixed
AET Barrel Option: AET
Barrel: Plain Barrel
Barrel Length: 5
Barrel Style: Bushing Style
Caliber: 45 ACP
Compensator: No Compensator
Trigger Base color: Silver
Trigger Bow: Titanium
Trigger Insert Color: Silver
Trigger Insert Style: Curved Medium
Triglide System: Yes
Grip Length: Checkered Rosewood (Traditional frame only)
Mag Well: No Magazine Well
Trigger Guard: Straigth Shooter (Bottom of Trigger Guard flat)
Hammer: Triple Xcelerated SV
Hammer Finish: Silver Finish
Dust Cover: Standard (all)
Dust Cover Fluting: None
Frame Material: Stainless Steel
Frame Style: Traditional (1911 single stack) Round Trigger Guard
Grip Safety: Stainless Steel
ITI Rail cut: No Rail Cut
Magazine Catch: Stainless Steel, Standard
Magazine Release Button: None
Mainspring Housing: CS Flat
Slide Lock Pin: Stainless Steel
Strut: Titanium
Thumb Safety Material: Carbon Steel
Thumb Safety Style: Ambidextrous Tactical
California/ Massachusetts Resi: No
Gun type: Government (5 inch)
IPSC Modified Division Infinit: No (typical)
Pistol Finish: Duotone Two Tone Stainless (only on stainless material)
Design Submitted - Identification 24854

ETA: This was my 1st submission, I had to go back and resend it due to the Triglide System I thought I clicked no on.

bac1023
11-30-2010, 18:30
Well, the fact that you didn't opt for the Infinicoat finish will help. That finish is very expensive.

It doesn;t seem overly extravagant, so the cost shouldn't be too bad.

Let us know what Brandon quotes you. :)

Hopefully, you can get it. I think you'll enjoy the Infinity more than the Ed Brown CC.

gomerpyle
12-01-2010, 07:34
Brandon responded back and quoted the build to be about $3600 with a 10-12mon lead time. He also stated I should use the Triglide trigger system, I misunderstood what I read on the website & thought I needed the wider polymer grip. Looks like I'm going to be acquiring an Infinity 1911 :supergrin:. Thanks again for the help & recommendations.

Hokie1911
12-01-2010, 07:44
Brandon responded back and quoted the build to be about $3600 with a 10-12mon lead time. He also stated I should use the Triglide trigger system, I misunderstood what I read on the website & thought I needed the wider polymer grip. Looks like I'm going to be acquiring an Infinity 1911 :supergrin:. Thanks again for the help & recommendations.

Congrats. Never seen or shot one, but from everything I hear...you won't be disappointed. :thumbsup:

Tactical black
12-01-2010, 07:58
Brandon responded back and quoted the build to be about $3600 with a 10-12mon lead time. He also stated I should use the Triglide trigger system, I misunderstood what I read on the website & thought I needed the wider polymer grip. Looks like I'm going to be acquiring an Infinity 1911 :supergrin:. Thanks again for the help & recommendations.


Sounds great! Good call on the triglide from what I hear that's a awesome trigger. :cool:

bac1023
12-01-2010, 08:12
Brandon responded back and quoted the build to be about $3600 with a 10-12mon lead time. He also stated I should use the Triglide trigger system, I misunderstood what I read on the website & thought I needed the wider polymer grip. Looks like I'm going to be acquiring an Infinity 1911 :supergrin:. Thanks again for the help & recommendations.

Yep, I figured without that Infinicoat finish you could keep it below $4000.

That finish is north of $500. :wow:

You do not need a wide grip for the Triglide. In fact, mine is equipped with it and its one of the best triggers on any 1911 or other handgun I own.

That build is most certainly worth the extra $600 or so over the Ed Brown Classic Custom.

Its very hard to beat Infinity when it comes to high end 1911s. When it comes to art and beauty, they can be beat (though they do some very nice work). However, when it comes to function, they're second to none in my book. Infinity is truly outstanding.

I won't mention names, but I've been trying to get a few members here to order one. :whistling: Many people get stuck in the semi-custom world (and for good reason), however Infinity is better. They're a distinct step above what you get from Brown, Baer, Nighthawk, or Wilson.




.

Quack
12-01-2010, 08:14
Congrats!!!
Much better gun than a supergrade and costs less.

bac1023
12-01-2010, 08:19
Congrats!!!
Much better gun than a supergrade and costs less.

You said it right Quack.

Its certainly a better gun than the SG and without that finish, it costs less.

Being stainless steel, he need not worry about using Infinicoat anyway.



I really love the hell out of mine. :supergrin: :hearts:


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_2421.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_2429.jpg

IANative
12-01-2010, 14:45
Thanks for the advice guys. I knew it was a good idea to post here. I think for this purchase I'll stick with semi-custom. Maybe on the next round I'll look more into a full custom piece. I really like what Wilson & Ed Brown have to offer, I just wish I could fondle 1 before the purchase. Keep the advice coming!

Chrisman17, I hear you on the bank account. Fortunately I know what addictions do to bank funds, I design performance parts and build hot rods for a living. I had to choose between cars and my guns due to the automotive downfall. Thankfully things have turned around, this purchase is kind of my celebration of that :supergrin:.

Looks like I found this thread too late, since you appear to have already placed an order. But since you design performance parts and build hot rods for a living, it would only seem natural to me that you buy a Les Baer. Or, since you have a $4K ceiling, two Les Baers.:rock:

gomerpyle
12-01-2010, 18:44
I won't mention names, but I've been trying to get a few members hear to order one. :whistling: Many people get stuck in the semi-custom world (and for good reason), however Infinity is better. They're a distinct step above what you get from Brown, Baer, Nighthawk, or Wilson. I'm excited as hell and think I'll be happy. Go big or go home!

Speaking of hot rods, T-Bird with a Fuel Injected 428 :notworthy:
http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/GOMERPYLE/FE.jpg
(belongs to the owner of my company though :crying:)

Quack
12-01-2010, 18:50
I won't mention names, but I've been trying to get a few members hear to order one. :whistling: Many people get stuck in the semi-custom world (and for good reason), however Infinity is better. They're a distinct step above what you get from Brown, Baer, Nighthawk, or Wilson.

.

:steamed::steamed::steamed:

thecableguy
12-01-2010, 19:14
I just looked at the Infinity website and saw that they were about 20 miles from me. I wonder if they would let me take a tour of the place? That would be cool.

bac1023
12-01-2010, 20:25
I just looked at the Infinity website and saw that they were about 20 miles from me. I wonder if they would let me take a tour of the place? That would be cool.

Yeah, they're in Texas for sure.

Way back in the day, STI and SVI were the same company.

bac1023
12-01-2010, 20:26
:steamed::steamed::steamed:

:animlol:

Don, you're the guy I want to see have an Infinity the most. :)

Its right up your alley. :cool: